I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by that. Having GOPexiter may have bumped the credibility with the center a bit.
I wouldn’t trust him one iota. His connections and friendships didn’t dissolve upon leaving the party.
Nancy aiming squarely at the purple states and those vulnerable repub senators and house members. I like this team. Who’s Team Trump Treason got?
As someone who has followed and supported Amash vigorously for a few years, this is not the case at all. You can disagree with his positions, but what you see is what you get. He was calling for impeachment based on the Mueller report, which was way ahead of many Democrats.
Who does he caucus with?
Isn't a lone wolf now, voting with whom he agrees? I don't think that distinction is important like it is in the Senate, as the HOR is generally not so close in numbers like the Senate.
I'm not sure but I wouldn't trust a former repub on something as important as this. It'd be a slap in the face to any capable/qualified dem. Its not about optics, its about putting forth the best possible team from your party's bench. I can see the spin now, "dems don't have enough ability, they had to appoint a former repub............"
"Indies" are partly responsible for why we're where we are today.
I think this is leaning so hard into politics-as-sport that you've created more of a palace intrigue fan fiction than anything resembling reality. Getting the votes to remove him from office was going to be an uphill battle to begin with. If they didn't even make an attempt to give it some element of a transpartisan body AND selected a guy like Schiff as the lead (who isn't respected outside of entrenched Democrat circles), well good luck.
I get frustrated about this because I want to see the dude gone. My hopes are now resting on potential Bolton testimony and/or this Parnas evidence to take root. Because short of that, Democrats keep torpedoing how this can be framed if he gets acquitted.
I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by that. Having GOPexiter may have bumped the credibility with the center a bit.
I wouldn’t trust him one iota. His connections and friendships didn’t dissolve upon leaving the party.
Nancy aiming squarely at the purple states and those vulnerable repub senators and house members. I like this team. Who’s Team Trump Treason got?
As someone who has followed and supported Amash vigorously for a few years, this is not the case at all. You can disagree with his positions, but what you see is what you get. He was calling for impeachment based on the Mueller report, which was way ahead of many Democrats.
Who does he caucus with?
Isn't a lone wolf now, voting with whom he agrees? I don't think that distinction is important like it is in the Senate, as the HOR is generally not so close in numbers like the Senate.
I'm not sure but I wouldn't trust a former repub on something as important as this. It'd be a slap in the face to any capable/qualified dem. Its not about optics, its about putting forth the best possible team from your party's bench. I can see the spin now, "dems don't have enough ability, they had to appoint a former repub............"
"Indies" are partly responsible for why we're where we are today.
I think this is leaning so hard into politics-as-sport that you've created more of a palace intrigue fan fiction than anything resembling reality. Getting the votes to remove him from office was going to be an uphill battle to begin with. If they didn't even make an attempt to give it some element of a transpartisan body AND selected a guy like Schiff as the lead (who isn't respected outside of entrenched Democrat circles), well good luck.
I get frustrated about this because I want to see the dude gone. My hopes are now resting on potential Bolton testimony and/or this Parnas evidence to take root. Because short of that, Democrats keep torpedoing how this can be framed if he gets acquitted.
It can't be "framed" without witness testimony or documentary evidence, all of which has been denied by Team Trump Treason. The palace intrigue you speak of is that shit that's coming out in dribs and drabs, despite Team Trump Treason and repub denials to the contrary. Yea, its sport as its the third impeachment in my life time (Nixon, I know he resigned before he could be impeached and only after the evidence was such that he would have been, Clinton and now Team Trump Treason) and I've listened and watched ad nauseum how evil Hillary is/was for close to 30 years. And what did we have? Fucking nothing. Nancy is either going to get a "mountain of evidence" or illustrate for the American people that the phone call was not "perfect" and the repubs are participating in a cover up, based on facts. Fan fiction indeed.
If Team Trump Treason is acquitted on party lines and re-elected, based on the facts, if they ever come out, then the US is no better than any other tin pot dictatorship and the rule of law does not extend to the POTUS. Careful what you (general you, not you personally) wish for because someday it'll be the other party in power and the precedent will have been set, obstruction of justice and checks and balances via Executive Privilege and litigation.
And Bolton? Like Larry Bird, he ain't walking through that door.
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I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by that. Having GOPexiter may have bumped the credibility with the center a bit.
I wouldn’t trust him one iota. His connections and friendships didn’t dissolve upon leaving the party.
Nancy aiming squarely at the purple states and those vulnerable repub senators and house members. I like this team. Who’s Team Trump Treason got?
As someone who has followed and supported Amash vigorously for a few years, this is not the case at all. You can disagree with his positions, but what you see is what you get. He was calling for impeachment based on the Mueller report, which was way ahead of many Democrats.
Who does he caucus with?
Isn't a lone wolf now, voting with whom he agrees? I don't think that distinction is important like it is in the Senate, as the HOR is generally not so close in numbers like the Senate.
I'm not sure but I wouldn't trust a former repub on something as important as this. It'd be a slap in the face to any capable/qualified dem. Its not about optics, its about putting forth the best possible team from your party's bench. I can see the spin now, "dems don't have enough ability, they had to appoint a former repub............"
"Indies" are partly responsible for why we're where we are today.
I think this is leaning so hard into politics-as-sport that you've created more of a palace intrigue fan fiction than anything resembling reality. Getting the votes to remove him from office was going to be an uphill battle to begin with. If they didn't even make an attempt to give it some element of a transpartisan body AND selected a guy like Schiff as the lead (who isn't respected outside of entrenched Democrat circles), well good luck.
I get frustrated about this because I want to see the dude gone. My hopes are now resting on potential Bolton testimony and/or this Parnas evidence to take root. Because short of that, Democrats keep torpedoing how this can be framed if he gets acquitted.
Entrenched democrat circles? Nonsense. Schiff has been a bright light in the democratic party. Unless of course you buy into all the Republican shifty Schiff nonsense.
The GOP has been smearing him for a reason, he's extremely effective and competent. They fear him.
I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by that. Having GOPexiter may have bumped the credibility with the center a bit.
I wouldn’t trust him one iota. His connections and friendships didn’t dissolve upon leaving the party.
Nancy aiming squarely at the purple states and those vulnerable repub senators and house members. I like this team. Who’s Team Trump Treason got?
As someone who has followed and supported Amash vigorously for a few years, this is not the case at all. You can disagree with his positions, but what you see is what you get. He was calling for impeachment based on the Mueller report, which was way ahead of many Democrats.
Who does he caucus with?
Isn't a lone wolf now, voting with whom he agrees? I don't think that distinction is important like it is in the Senate, as the HOR is generally not so close in numbers like the Senate.
I'm not sure but I wouldn't trust a former repub on something as important as this. It'd be a slap in the face to any capable/qualified dem. Its not about optics, its about putting forth the best possible team from your party's bench. I can see the spin now, "dems don't have enough ability, they had to appoint a former repub............"
"Indies" are partly responsible for why we're where we are today.
I think this is leaning so hard into politics-as-sport that you've created more of a palace intrigue fan fiction than anything resembling reality. Getting the votes to remove him from office was going to be an uphill battle to begin with. If they didn't even make an attempt to give it some element of a transpartisan body AND selected a guy like Schiff as the lead (who isn't respected outside of entrenched Democrat circles), well good luck.
I get frustrated about this because I want to see the dude gone. My hopes are now resting on potential Bolton testimony and/or this Parnas evidence to take root. Because short of that, Democrats keep torpedoing how this can be framed if he gets acquitted.
Entrenched democrat circles? Nonsense. Schiff has been a bright light in the democratic party. Unless of course you buy into all the Republican shifty Schiff nonsense.
The GOP has been smearing him for a reason, he's extremely effective and competent. They fear him.
I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by that. Having GOPexiter may have bumped the credibility with the center a bit.
I wouldn’t trust him one iota. His connections and friendships didn’t dissolve upon leaving the party.
Nancy aiming squarely at the purple states and those vulnerable repub senators and house members. I like this team. Who’s Team Trump Treason got?
As someone who has followed and supported Amash vigorously for a few years, this is not the case at all. You can disagree with his positions, but what you see is what you get. He was calling for impeachment based on the Mueller report, which was way ahead of many Democrats.
Who does he caucus with?
Isn't a lone wolf now, voting with whom he agrees? I don't think that distinction is important like it is in the Senate, as the HOR is generally not so close in numbers like the Senate.
I'm not sure but I wouldn't trust a former repub on something as important as this. It'd be a slap in the face to any capable/qualified dem. Its not about optics, its about putting forth the best possible team from your party's bench. I can see the spin now, "dems don't have enough ability, they had to appoint a former repub............"
"Indies" are partly responsible for why we're where we are today.
I think this is leaning so hard into politics-as-sport that you've created more of a palace intrigue fan fiction than anything resembling reality. Getting the votes to remove him from office was going to be an uphill battle to begin with. If they didn't even make an attempt to give it some element of a transpartisan body AND selected a guy like Schiff as the lead (who isn't respected outside of entrenched Democrat circles), well good luck.
I get frustrated about this because I want to see the dude gone. My hopes are now resting on potential Bolton testimony and/or this Parnas evidence to take root. Because short of that, Democrats keep torpedoing how this can be framed if he gets acquitted.
Entrenched democrat circles? Nonsense. Schiff has been a bright light in the democratic party. Unless of course you buy into all the Republican shifty Schiff nonsense.
The GOP has been smearing him for a reason, he's extremely effective and competent. They fear him.
Yeah that’s how I feel about Schiff he seems totally focused on the job at hand ..
I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by that. Having GOPexiter may have bumped the credibility with the center a bit.
I wouldn’t trust him one iota. His connections and friendships didn’t dissolve upon leaving the party.
Nancy aiming squarely at the purple states and those vulnerable repub senators and house members. I like this team. Who’s Team Trump Treason got?
As someone who has followed and supported Amash vigorously for a few years, this is not the case at all. You can disagree with his positions, but what you see is what you get. He was calling for impeachment based on the Mueller report, which was way ahead of many Democrats.
Who does he caucus with?
Isn't a lone wolf now, voting with whom he agrees? I don't think that distinction is important like it is in the Senate, as the HOR is generally not so close in numbers like the Senate.
I'm not sure but I wouldn't trust a former repub on something as important as this. It'd be a slap in the face to any capable/qualified dem. Its not about optics, its about putting forth the best possible team from your party's bench. I can see the spin now, "dems don't have enough ability, they had to appoint a former repub............"
"Indies" are partly responsible for why we're where we are today.
I think this is leaning so hard into politics-as-sport that you've created more of a palace intrigue fan fiction than anything resembling reality. Getting the votes to remove him from office was going to be an uphill battle to begin with. If they didn't even make an attempt to give it some element of a transpartisan body AND selected a guy like Schiff as the lead (who isn't respected outside of entrenched Democrat circles), well good luck.
I get frustrated about this because I want to see the dude gone. My hopes are now resting on potential Bolton testimony and/or this Parnas evidence to take root. Because short of that, Democrats keep torpedoing how this can be framed if he gets acquitted.
Entrenched democrat circles? Nonsense. Schiff has been a bright light in the democratic party. Unless of course you buy into all the Republican shifty Schiff nonsense.
The GOP has been smearing him for a reason, he's extremely effective and competent. They fear him.
Yeah that’s how I feel about Schiff he seems totally focused on the job at hand ..
Having prosecuted the only FBI agent charged with spying, you’re damn right they fear him.
Fascinating how the founding fathers understood the tendency of pols to talk and talk and talk and shape reality to their liking and try and win an evening news cycle. It'll be refreshing to watch reality and decide for ourselves.
j/k. Pretty sure the press restrictions were decided by previous impeachment votes on the rules.
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Have what? That Nancy made a calculated play to appoint all qualified dems rather than a former repub who’s voting record doesn’t mirror the dem caucus? Nancy needs every dem in on this, not one former repub “indie.”
Have what? That Nancy made a calculated play to appoint all qualified dems rather than a former repub who’s voting record doesn’t mirror the dem caucus? Nancy needs every dem in on this, not one former repub “indie.”
An insular, exclusive team of impeachment managers led by Adam Schiff is surely the way to peel off some Republican votes
Don't miss Lev Parnas on Maddow tonight. He says tRump knew about everything.
i think republicans and trump supporters can easily say that he'll say anything to get a deal. whether he is truthful or not, unfortunately, i don't think will matter.
Have what? That Nancy made a calculated play to appoint all qualified dems rather than a former repub who’s voting record doesn’t mirror the dem caucus? Nancy needs every dem in on this, not one former repub “indie.”
An insular, exclusive team of impeachment managers led by Adam Schiff is surely the way to peel off some Republican votes
I see both sides, but I’m not sure Amash has any influence on senators.
Have what? That Nancy made a calculated play to appoint all qualified dems rather than a former repub who’s voting record doesn’t mirror the dem caucus? Nancy needs every dem in on this, not one former repub “indie.”
An insular, exclusive team of impeachment managers led by Adam Schiff is surely the way to peel off some Republican votes
It’s not the party or the individuals presenting the case, it’s the evidence they present and the repub response in their defense of Team Trump Treason. The fact that you’re focused on the “presenters” illustrate that their strategy of hammering the process and the presenters, rather than countering with documents and witnesses, is working. The coverup is on.
Did you know that the house offered Team Trump Treason to answer questions with his attorney present before the full house committee behind closed doors? But the process was unfair and we need a former repub “indie” involved as an act of transparency?
Have what? That Nancy made a calculated play to appoint all qualified dems rather than a former repub who’s voting record doesn’t mirror the dem caucus? Nancy needs every dem in on this, not one former repub “indie.”
An insular, exclusive team of impeachment managers led by Adam Schiff is surely the way to peel off some Republican votes
I see both sides, but I’m not sure Amash has any influence on senators.
I think a lot of it will come down to how they comport themselves and, after watching a few different Congressional hearings over the last couple years, I have more confidence in him than most
Have what? That Nancy made a calculated play to appoint all qualified dems rather than a former repub who’s voting record doesn’t mirror the dem caucus? Nancy needs every dem in on this, not one former repub “indie.”
An insular, exclusive team of impeachment managers led by Adam Schiff is surely the way to peel off some Republican votes
I see both sides, but I’m not sure Amash has any influence on senators.
Why would he? Or with repub voters in his district or state? Other than having an air of independence?
Have what? That Nancy made a calculated play to appoint all qualified dems rather than a former repub who’s voting record doesn’t mirror the dem caucus? Nancy needs every dem in on this, not one former repub “indie.”
An insular, exclusive team of impeachment managers led by Adam Schiff is surely the way to peel off some Republican votes
I see both sides, but I’m not sure Amash has any influence on senators.
I think a lot of it will come down to how they comport themselves and, after watching a few different Congressional hearings over the last couple years, I have more confidence in him than most
To clarify, I hadn't watched any hearings in a long time. Then I saw most of Kavanaugh, a bunch of Cohen, and some of the impeachment. All bluster and grandstanding from just about everyone on both sides - few pointed questions or real probing lines to get at info. Horrible. So this should be interesting.
I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by that. Having GOPexiter may have bumped the credibility with the center a bit.
I wouldn’t trust him one iota. His connections and friendships didn’t dissolve upon leaving the party.
Nancy aiming squarely at the purple states and those vulnerable repub senators and house members. I like this team. Who’s Team Trump Treason got?
As someone who has followed and supported Amash vigorously for a few years, this is not the case at all. You can disagree with his positions, but what you see is what you get. He was calling for impeachment based on the Mueller report, which was way ahead of many Democrats.
i agree this was a missed opportunity. i did not like him when he was a hardcore tea partier, but i have a lot of respect for him because he came out in support of impeachment based on the evidence.
i think the dems may have not picked him because trump's defense team could go after him and say that he came out against trump because trump did not go along with some legislation he supported, or something to make it seem like he voted to impeach out of sour grapes or something. it would be too much of a distraction to the dems. i think they have a good squad here. they are looking to remove trump and i think this is the best squad they could come up with.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by that. Having GOPexiter may have bumped the credibility with the center a bit.
I wouldn’t trust him one iota. His connections and friendships didn’t dissolve upon leaving the party.
Nancy aiming squarely at the purple states and those vulnerable repub senators and house members. I like this team. Who’s Team Trump Treason got?
As someone who has followed and supported Amash vigorously for a few years, this is not the case at all. You can disagree with his positions, but what you see is what you get. He was calling for impeachment based on the Mueller report, which was way ahead of many Democrats.
i agree this was a missed opportunity. i did not like him when he was a hardcore tea partier, but i have a lot of respect for him because he came out in support of impeachment based on the evidence.
i think the dems may have not picked him because trump's defense team could go after him and say that he came out against trump because trump did not go along with some legislation he supported, or something to make it seem like he voted to impeach out of sour grapes or something. it would be too much of a distraction to the dems. i think they have a good squad here. they are looking to remove trump and i think this is the best squad they could come up with.
I think you nailed it Dems def don’t want any distractions against one of their prosecutors..
I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by that. Having GOPexiter may have bumped the credibility with the center a bit.
I wouldn’t trust him one iota. His connections and friendships didn’t dissolve upon leaving the party.
Nancy aiming squarely at the purple states and those vulnerable repub senators and house members. I like this team. Who’s Team Trump Treason got?
As someone who has followed and supported Amash vigorously for a few years, this is not the case at all. You can disagree with his positions, but what you see is what you get. He was calling for impeachment based on the Mueller report, which was way ahead of many Democrats.
i agree this was a missed opportunity. i did not like him when he was a hardcore tea partier, but i have a lot of respect for him because he came out in support of impeachment based on the evidence.
i think the dems may have not picked him because trump's defense team could go after him and say that he came out against trump because trump did not go along with some legislation he supported, or something to make it seem like he voted to impeach out of sour grapes or something. it would be too much of a distraction to the dems. i think they have a good squad here. they are looking to remove trump and i think this is the best squad they could come up with.
When it comes to libertarians, I always tell my progressive friends to focus on the issues you have in common. You don't have to vote for them if you don't like the full slate, but there are definitely areas where you can work together.
Look, I'll be thrilled to be wrong. That means he's getting removed or, at least, the trial really swung public opinion before the election. I am not encouraged thus far, though.
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I get frustrated about this because I want to see the dude gone. My hopes are now resting on potential Bolton testimony and/or this Parnas evidence to take root. Because short of that, Democrats keep torpedoing how this can be framed if he gets acquitted.
If Team Trump Treason is acquitted on party lines and re-elected, based on the facts, if they ever come out, then the US is no better than any other tin pot dictatorship and the rule of law does not extend to the POTUS. Careful what you (general you, not you personally) wish for because someday it'll be the other party in power and the precedent will have been set, obstruction of justice and checks and balances via Executive Privilege and litigation.
And Bolton? Like Larry Bird, he ain't walking through that door.
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i think the dems may have not picked him because trump's defense team could go after him and say that he came out against trump because trump did not go along with some legislation he supported, or something to make it seem like he voted to impeach out of sour grapes or something. it would be too much of a distraction to the dems. i think they have a good squad here. they are looking to remove trump and i think this is the best squad they could come up with.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
i love that name.
sounds like some sort of swashbuckling smuggler from outer space.
think broke ass version of han solo.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Look, I'll be thrilled to be wrong. That means he's getting removed or, at least, the trial really swung public opinion before the election. I am not encouraged thus far, though.