***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,124
    Oh dear, dear, dear me ol' Jarrod ol' boy with the deepest of my apologies, I regret to inform you ol' boy why in fact, if it was Form 86 you were hereby requested to complete, that it is indeed a felony to knowingly omit or falsify requested information. Oh dear, indeed. See? It says so right there on that silly page two, plain as a 600 yard drive on the shart hole.

    https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/forms/sf0086.pdf
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  • Go Beavers
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    unsung said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    unsung said:

    Job numbers have been fake for a long time.

    So, what's the real unemployment rate?
    How the hell should I know. But if you go back and figure the numbers the way it was during the Depression you'd see the difference. Now those out of the job market for an amount of time are not considered in the equation even though they are unemployed.
    The unemployment rate has been measured the same way for a very long time.
  • rgambs
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    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    unsung said:

    Job numbers have been fake for a long time.

    So, what's the real unemployment rate?
    How the hell should I know. But if you go back and figure the numbers the way it was during the Depression you'd see the difference. Now those out of the job market for an amount of time are not considered in the equation even though they are unemployed.
    The unemployment rate has been measured the same way for a very long time.
    No, you have to go back to the Great Depression to get the true unemployment measurement method.
    Liberal bullshit like child labour laws and retirement have skewed the figures beyond recognition.
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  • rgambs
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    You have to look at the entire population vs the number of people who are employed, that's the true measure. It's called the Hannity method.
    You have to do it that way so that you can include students, retirees, stay at home spouses, and people like my mother who takes care of her elderly mother full time. Doesn't matter if she isn't looking for work, she is unemployed so Obama needs to take the blame.
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited April 2017
    What has President Trump done that is impeachable?
    Disagreeing or hating a presedent is not grounds for impeachment. If that was the case, we would have had many impeached presidents by now. If all you needed to do was hate, or disagree with the guy to make them go away. President George W would've had a really​ short term, Obama wouldn't have lasted a month. Come on.
    If President Trump does something impeachable I would support the impeachment, then eat a lot of crow​. Maby it will happen, but that hasn't happened.
    Impending Impeachment??? There's nothing pending.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    RYME said:

    What has President Trump done that is impeachable?
    Disagreeing or hating a presedent is not grounds for impeachment. If that was the case, we would have had many impeached presidents by now. If all you needed to do was hate, or disagree with the guy to make them go away. President George W would've had a really​ short term, Obama wouldn't have lasted a month. Come on.
    If President Trump does something impeachable I would support the impeachment, then eat a lot of crow​. Maby it will happen, but that hasn't happened.
    Impending Impeachment??? There's nothing pending.

    Look up emolument clause.
  • The Juggler
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    RYME said:

    What has President Trump done that is impeachable?
    Disagreeing or hating a presedent is not grounds for impeachment. If that was the case, we would have had many impeached presidents by now. If all you needed to do was hate, or disagree with the guy to make them go away. President George W would've had a really​ short term, Obama wouldn't have lasted a month. Come on.
    If President Trump does something impeachable I would support the impeachment, then eat a lot of crow​. Maby it will happen, but that hasn't happened.
    Impending Impeachment??? There's nothing pending.

    Open your eyes.
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  • The Juggler
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    rgambs said:

    You have to look at the entire population vs the number of people who are employed, that's the true measure. It's called the Hannity method.
    You have to do it that way so that you can include students, retirees, stay at home spouses, and people like my mother who takes care of her elderly mother full time. Doesn't matter if she isn't looking for work, she is unemployed so Obama needs to take the blame.

    Yeah....but will Hannity calculate it this way now? I doubt it...
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Oh, oh, Russian Spam King arrested in Spain facing extradition to the US. Four additional hackers arrested as well. A few more dots to be connected.

    Follow the money, from Russia with love, and the plea deals that lead to indictments, all the way to impeachment.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    In the footage I saw of his arrest, he seems fairly young, a whole life ahead of him. I wonder what kind of deal he'll strike? Be turned back over to Russia and maybe end up dead? Tell all he knows and go into witness protection? Or spend the rest of his life in prison? Hmmmmmmmm, what's it going to be?

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/39553250

    Follow the money and the indictments all the way to impeachment. From Russia with love.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Yup, because there's nothing there but brilliant brilliance. So much for those headlines going away like so much smoke, eh?

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/04/11/fbi-obtained-fisa-warrant-monitor-former-trump-adviser-carter-page/FDl5q9mmIYoF7rRZS74xdN/story.html?s_campaign=bdc:globewell:politics
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited April 2017
    The Juggler said:

    RYME said:

    What has President Trump done that is impeachable?
    Disagreeing or hating a presedent is not grounds for impeachment. If that was the case, we would have had many impeached presidents by now. If all you needed to do was hate, or disagree with the guy to make them go away. President George W would've had a really​ short term, Obama wouldn't have lasted a month. Come on.
    If President Trump does something impeachable I would support the impeachment, then eat a lot of crow​. Maby it will happen, but that hasn't happened.
    Impending Impeachment??? There's nothing pending.

    Open your eyes.
    Say, the day you trade in your Hemp Hat, for a Hard Hat, your eyes will be opened son.
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  • The Juggler
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    RYME said:

    The Juggler said:

    RYME said:

    What has President Trump done that is impeachable?
    Disagreeing or hating a presedent is not grounds for impeachment. If that was the case, we would have had many impeached presidents by now. If all you needed to do was hate, or disagree with the guy to make them go away. President George W would've had a really​ short term, Obama wouldn't have lasted a month. Come on.
    If President Trump does something impeachable I would support the impeachment, then eat a lot of crow​. Maby it will happen, but that hasn't happened.
    Impending Impeachment??? There's nothing pending.

    Open your eyes.
    Say, the day you trade in your Hemp Hat, for a Hard Hat, your eyes will be opened son.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And yet another dot is seemingly connected. Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ap-exclusive-manafort-firm-received-ukraine-ledger-payout/ar-BBzKrWA?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
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  • The Juggler
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    Trump's guiding principle is whatever he thinks is popular at the time.
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    The Juggler said:

    Trump's guiding principle is whatever he thinks is popular at the time.

    Or personally profits himself
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,124
    Particularly as it relates to Devin Nunes:

    The Russia story just keeps getting worse for President Trump - CNN
    https://apple.news/AvDXZTwxxQkOBkfHHhW5eiA

    http://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/11/1619079/-Comparing-Presidential-Administrations-by-Arrests-and-Convictions-A-Warning-for-Trump-Appointees
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  • The Juggler
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    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/trump-impeachment-professor-allan-lichtman-237181
    Prediction prof: Trump will be impeached

    By Edward-Isaac Dovere

    The professor who took hell for predicting President Donald Trump has a much longer case for predicting President Mike Pence — and it’s all in his new book, out next week.

    Allan Lichtman, a professor at American University, reached meme-status last fall for predicting long before anyone else that Trump would win, using a formula based on the popularity of the party in control of the White House that accurately predicted the eight previous presidential elections. Now Lichtman wants everyone to pay attention to the rest of what came through his crystal ball — that Trump will now be impeached.

    The people who paid attention only to the professor’s first prediction include the commander in chief, whom Lichtman says reached out to him during the transition.

    “Taking time out of preparing to become the world’s most powerful leader, he wrote me a personal note, saying ‘Professor — Congrats — good call,’” Lichtman writes in “The Case for Impeachment,” an advance copy of which was shared with POLITICO. “What Trump overlooked, however, was my ‘next big prediction’: that, after winning the presidency, he would be impeached.”

    Lichtman is clearly no Trump fan, writing at length about his discomfort with Trump’s opposition to the Paris Climate accord. He refers to Trump’s travel ban as “dimming the torch of liberty” and heads one section of the book, “Trump’s policies and appointments pose an existential threat to humanity.”


    The book, rushed to the presses after the election, provides a brief history of the thinking that led the Framers to include impeachment, and the behavior that led presidents to get impeached — counting Richard Nixon along with Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton (the two presidents who didn’t resign before the Articles of Impeachment were read in the House), Lichtman points out that one out of every 14 presidents has been impeached: “gamblers have become rich betting on longer odds than that.”

    With a heavy hmm, he cites Johnson's obituary in The New York Times, which said the 17th president's fatal flaw was "he was always headstrong, 'sure he was right' even in his errors."

    Several Democrats have predicted that the first thing they’d do if they win the House next year is impeach Trump. It may not take that long, Lichtman argues, writing that his book is meant to “explain how Trump threatens the institutions and traditions that have made America safe and free for 230 years, and I’ll make clear why a Republican Congress might impeach a president of its own party.”

    Lichtman’s list of possible offenses that could get Trump to that point are familiar: charges of treason with Russia, abuse of power and emoluments violations. Lichtman also cites now-Attorney General Jeff Sessions, then a senator, who argued that a president could be impeached for offenses committed before he took office. Among those potential offenses, Lichtman lists Trump’s housing violations, charity problems, potential violations of the Cuba embargo and Trump University.

    It’s all part of a brief — designed to be damning — tour through Trump’s history. It includes section headings like “Trump Towers Become Vacant Lots” and “Lying His Way to the Presidency.” It eventually leads Lichtman to the conclusion that Trump might serve himself up for impeachment: “Trump’s disregard for lying in sworn testimony, examined in the context of the Bill Clinton precedent, shows how Trump’s opponents could set an impeachment trap for him through a civil lawsuit.”

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    Imagine, Lichtman writes, if Trump gets Congress to lift sanctions against Russia by lying about some promise made by Vladimir Putin, or shakes the economy by lying about Bureau of Labor Statistics employment numbers.

    Lichtman’s advice to Trump to avoid his prediction is a checklist that includes divesting, supporting the Paris Climate accord, using a fact-checker and treating women with respect. He also dares Trump to “add a shrink to the White House physicians.”

    “Opponents will challenge your decision-making abilities and claim that they were right all along about your temperamental unfitness for the presidency, yet you have survived and thrived by defying the conventional political wisdom. Why not do it again?”

    He also encourages Trump to “curb the Mussolini act” and fire chief strategist Steve Bannon.

    President Andrew Johnson “showed how an impeachment and trial could benefit the nation,” Lichtman writes at one point. And he’s clearly rooting for that to happen now.

    “Justice will be realized in today’s America not through revolution, but by the Constitution’s peaceful remedy of impeachment,” he concludes the book, “but only if the people demand it.”
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Drip, drip, drip................

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/04/13/are-there-too-many-russia-connections-to-be-coincidences/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c:homepage/story&utm_term=.9c99e4cd9e63

    Brilliant disappearing headlines just off into the ether, no basis in fact. Yea, sure.

    Follow the money, from Russia with love, to an impeachment that can't come soon enough.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Drip, drip, drip................

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/04/13/are-there-too-many-russia-connections-to-be-coincidences/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c:homepage/story&utm_term=.9c99e4cd9e63

    Brilliant disappearing headlines just off into the ether, no basis in fact. Yea, sure.

    Follow the money, from Russia with love, to an impeachment that can't come soon enough.

    Where do you see the causal relationship between pre-election Russian connections and impeachment? Unethical - yes. Illegal - no.
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