***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    https://apple.news/ASUJL0-EMSUGBIl45iLpoVw

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    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
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    So we’re gonna have a press conference about the report, without the guy who ran the investigation, BEFORE releasing the report...and they shared the details of the report only with the White House already?

    I want to see Mueller on Capital Hill testifying ASAP. 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    So we’re gonna have a press conference about the report, without the guy who ran the investigation, BEFORE releasing the report...and they shared the details of the report only with the White House already?

    I want to see Mueller on Capital Hill testifying ASAP. 
    Are people still going to say that Barr is an honest broker here?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    dignin said:
    So we’re gonna have a press conference about the report, without the guy who ran the investigation, BEFORE releasing the report...and they shared the details of the report only with the White House already?

    I want to see Mueller on Capital Hill testifying ASAP. 
    Are people still going to say that Barr is an honest broker here?
    CYA Barr hasn’t been an honest broker since Watergate. Why anyone would suggest he’s an honest broker is beyond me.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    Why would you have to pre-spin “Fully exonerated?”
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    Nobody said Barr is an honest broker, at least i didn't.... the indictments, or lack thereof, is all i need and are very telling

    Roger talked to wikileaks.... thats the best they came up with? 

    You guys are setting yourself up for a disappointment again.... we all want to see the report, but i dont think we'll find a smoking gun otherwise more people would be facing charges
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    my2hands said:
    Nobody said Barr is an honest broker, at least i didn't.... the indictments, or lack thereof, is all i need and are very telling

    Roger talked to wikileaks.... thats the best they came up with? 

    You guys are setting yourself up for a disappointment again.... we all want to see the report, but i dont think we'll find a smoking gun otherwise more people would be facing charges
    “Ongoing investigations.”
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435
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    my2hands said:
    Nobody said Barr is an honest broker, at least i didn't.... the indictments, or lack thereof, is all i need and are very telling

    Roger talked to wikileaks.... thats the best they came up with? 

    You guys are setting yourself up for a disappointment again.... we all want to see the report, but i dont think we'll find a smoking gun otherwise more people would be facing charges
    I’m not anticipating a smoking gun either. It will be heavily redacted and the other investigations will continue. I truly don’t think we’ll know everything until well after the election, which is crazy. This president does not believe in the Constitution and is terrified of true checks and balances.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I would do a pre-brief if I was about to release a report to a viper’s pit full of angry people with knives out.  There will be hell to pay if there are even simple spelling errors.  I don’t know why this is surprising. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Jason P said:
    I would do a pre-brief if I was about to release a report to a viper’s pit full of angry people with knives out.  There will be hell to pay if there are even simple spelling errors.  I don’t know why this is surprising. 
    Spelling errors, right.


  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,619
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    my2hands said:
    Nobody said Barr is an honest broker, at least i didn't.... the indictments, or lack thereof, is all i need and are very telling

    Roger talked to wikileaks.... thats the best they came up with? 

    You guys are setting yourself up for a disappointment again.... we all want to see the report, but i dont think we'll find a smoking gun otherwise more people would be facing charges

    The investigation wrapped up weeks after Barr took office. Coincidence? Anything we need to know there? Barr had his mind made up about this investigation months before he was nominated as AG. Anything we need to know there?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    my2hands said:
    Nobody said Barr is an honest broker, at least i didn't.... the indictments, or lack thereof, is all i need and are very telling

    Roger talked to wikileaks.... thats the best they came up with? 

    You guys are setting yourself up for a disappointment again.... we all want to see the report, but i dont think we'll find a smoking gun otherwise more people would be facing charges

    The investigation wrapped up weeks after Barr took office. Coincidence? Anything we need to know there? Barr had his mind made up about this investigation months before he was nominated as AG. Anything we need to know there?
    There’s so much more we need to know. Get Team Mueller to the Hill for testimony. Issue the subpoenas, file the court filing for the tax returns. Because if Team Trump Treason is Fully exonerated, they have nothing to worry about, right?

    “There was no collusion.”
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    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”

    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

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  • my2hands said:
    Nobody said Barr is an honest broker, at least i didn't.... the indictments, or lack thereof, is all i need and are very telling

    Roger talked to wikileaks.... thats the best they came up with? 

    You guys are setting yourself up for a disappointment again.... we all want to see the report, but i dont think we'll find a smoking gun otherwise more people would be facing charges

    Yah.

    I hope, like most others with a heart and half a brain, that something is in the report that is damning; however, my gut tells me this is the bottom of the ninth with the 7,8, and 9 hitters due.

    As tough as it is to digest... he's going to have to be voted out versus kicked out. The people around him have done a fantastic job of protecting him (and he's made their job unbelievably challenging- they must loathe him). 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Barr's "press conference" was even worse political theater than I thought it would be.

    Total whitewash, how can anyone have any trust in the redactions after that gong show?
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
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    All this was was a second chance to spike the football.  

    Look, he's been exonerated (at least in the minds of the people).  It's time for the left to stop trying to oust him so they don't look like a bunch of crybabies in 2020 on the off chance that he's beatable.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    OnWis97 said:
    All this was was a second chance to spike the football.  

    Look, he's been exonerated (at least in the minds of the people).  It's time for the left to stop trying to oust him so they don't look like a bunch of crybabies in 2020 on the off chance that he's beatable.
    Yes, we need to forget about getting to the truth. This is what you are advocating for.

    And your statement about the people believing he's been exonerated is not true. Plenty of polls that say different.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435
    2018
    OnWis97 said:
    All this was was a second chance to spike the football.  

    Look, he's been exonerated (at least in the minds of the people).  It's time for the left to stop trying to oust him so they don't look like a bunch of crybabies in 2020 on the off chance that he's beatable.
    I didn't realize that there was a poll of all US citizens and that the results state that everyone believed that he was exonerated. Thanks for clearing that up. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
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    Well, we're right where we were yesterday...with a polarizing president popular enough to win the electoral college.  Nobody that loves him was moved...nobody that hates him was moved.  

    in other words, it was a dog-and-pony show.  Forgotten about by tomorrow.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    OnWis97 said:
    Well, we're right where we were yesterday...with a polarizing president popular enough to win the electoral college.  Nobody that loves him was moved...nobody that hates him was moved.  

    in other words, it was a dog-and-pony show.  Forgotten about by tomorrow.
    14 ongoing investigations that continue with 12 of them redacted in Team Mueller’s report. Yea, forgotten about by tomorrow.
     
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
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    Back in the good ol' days when I thought Muller's investigation might amount to something...as it started to drag on, I would joke that it would show that Trump was Putin's puppet, but not until his second term...

    ...IF (and that's a huge if) anything substantive comes from this, it looks like it actually will be during his second term.
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    OnWis97 said:
    Back in the good ol' days when I thought Muller's investigation might amount to something...as it started to drag on, I would joke that it would show that Trump was Putin's puppet, but not until his second term...

    ...IF (and that's a huge if) anything substantive comes from this, it looks like it actually will be during his second term.
    why would it be during his second term?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
    "THE FIELD"
    OnWis97 said:
    Back in the good ol' days when I thought Muller's investigation might amount to something...as it started to drag on, I would joke that it would show that Trump was Putin's puppet, but not until his second term...

    ...IF (and that's a huge if) anything substantive comes from this, it looks like it actually will be during his second term.
    why would it be during his second term?
    Because of how slowly it's all moving.  We're like 19 months out from election.  It looks like nothing in this report is going to directly lead to anything. So, 
    14 ongoing investigations that continue with 12 of them redacted in Team Mueller’s report. Yea, forgotten about by tomorrow.
     
    We're looking at waiting out some other stuff.  Anything of value may very well come out after November, 2020.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Back in the good ol' days when I thought Muller's investigation might amount to something...as it started to drag on, I would joke that it would show that Trump was Putin's puppet, but not until his second term...

    ...IF (and that's a huge if) anything substantive comes from this, it looks like it actually will be during his second term.
    why would it be during his second term?
    Because of how slowly it's all moving.  We're like 19 months out from election.  It looks like nothing in this report is going to directly lead to anything. So, 
    14 ongoing investigations that continue with 12 of them redacted in Team Mueller’s report. Yea, forgotten about by tomorrow.
     
    We're looking at waiting out some other stuff.  Anything of value may very well come out after November, 2020.
    Team Trump Treason will be disgraced like Nixon.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435
    2018
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Back in the good ol' days when I thought Muller's investigation might amount to something...as it started to drag on, I would joke that it would show that Trump was Putin's puppet, but not until his second term...

    ...IF (and that's a huge if) anything substantive comes from this, it looks like it actually will be during his second term.
    why would it be during his second term?
    Because of how slowly it's all moving.  We're like 19 months out from election.  It looks like nothing in this report is going to directly lead to anything. So, 
    14 ongoing investigations that continue with 12 of them redacted in Team Mueller’s report. Yea, forgotten about by tomorrow.
     
    We're looking at waiting out some other stuff.  Anything of value may very well come out after November, 2020.
    Team Trump Treason will be disgraced like Nixon.
    I honestly think it will be a lot worse.
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  • 2018
    mfc2006 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Back in the good ol' days when I thought Muller's investigation might amount to something...as it started to drag on, I would joke that it would show that Trump was Putin's puppet, but not until his second term...

    ...IF (and that's a huge if) anything substantive comes from this, it looks like it actually will be during his second term.
    why would it be during his second term?
    Because of how slowly it's all moving.  We're like 19 months out from election.  It looks like nothing in this report is going to directly lead to anything. So, 
    14 ongoing investigations that continue with 12 of them redacted in Team Mueller’s report. Yea, forgotten about by tomorrow.
     
    We're looking at waiting out some other stuff.  Anything of value may very well come out after November, 2020.
    Team Trump Treason will be disgraced like Nixon.
    I honestly think it will be a lot worse.
    I hope he waves to the crowd, and then tries to get on the 'copter and it leaves without him, with Melania and Baron inside, giving him the finger as they fly away. 
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435
    2018
    mfc2006 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Back in the good ol' days when I thought Muller's investigation might amount to something...as it started to drag on, I would joke that it would show that Trump was Putin's puppet, but not until his second term...

    ...IF (and that's a huge if) anything substantive comes from this, it looks like it actually will be during his second term.
    why would it be during his second term?
    Because of how slowly it's all moving.  We're like 19 months out from election.  It looks like nothing in this report is going to directly lead to anything. So, 
    14 ongoing investigations that continue with 12 of them redacted in Team Mueller’s report. Yea, forgotten about by tomorrow.
     
    We're looking at waiting out some other stuff.  Anything of value may very well come out after November, 2020.
    Team Trump Treason will be disgraced like Nixon.
    I honestly think it will be a lot worse.
    I hope he waves to the crowd, and then tries to get on the 'copter and it leaves without him, with Melania and Baron inside, giving him the finger as they fly away. 
    Haha!! That would be great! Ha!
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
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    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Back in the good ol' days when I thought Muller's investigation might amount to something...as it started to drag on, I would joke that it would show that Trump was Putin's puppet, but not until his second term...

    ...IF (and that's a huge if) anything substantive comes from this, it looks like it actually will be during his second term.
    why would it be during his second term?
    Because of how slowly it's all moving.  We're like 19 months out from election.  It looks like nothing in this report is going to directly lead to anything. So, 
    14 ongoing investigations that continue with 12 of them redacted in Team Mueller’s report. Yea, forgotten about by tomorrow.
     
    We're looking at waiting out some other stuff.  Anything of value may very well come out after November, 2020.
    Team Trump Treason will be disgraced like Nixon.
    I don't know. I don't think his followers will ever come to reality like Nixon's did.  Or the party.  The red/blue thing today is just different.  Red will never, ever stop protecting Trump.  
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Back in the good ol' days when I thought Muller's investigation might amount to something...as it started to drag on, I would joke that it would show that Trump was Putin's puppet, but not until his second term...

    ...IF (and that's a huge if) anything substantive comes from this, it looks like it actually will be during his second term.
    why would it be during his second term?
    Because of how slowly it's all moving.  We're like 19 months out from election.  It looks like nothing in this report is going to directly lead to anything. So, 
    14 ongoing investigations that continue with 12 of them redacted in Team Mueller’s report. Yea, forgotten about by tomorrow.
     
    We're looking at waiting out some other stuff.  Anything of value may very well come out after November, 2020.
    Team Trump Treason will be disgraced like Nixon.
    I don't know. I don't think his followers will ever come to reality like Nixon's did.  Or the party.  The red/blue thing today is just different.  Red will never, ever stop protecting Trump.  
    The information in the Team Mueller report and what will come out in hill hearings will be campaign fodder. I can see the senate flipping.
     
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Back in the good ol' days when I thought Muller's investigation might amount to something...as it started to drag on, I would joke that it would show that Trump was Putin's puppet, but not until his second term...

    ...IF (and that's a huge if) anything substantive comes from this, it looks like it actually will be during his second term.
    why would it be during his second term?
    Because of how slowly it's all moving.  We're like 19 months out from election.  It looks like nothing in this report is going to directly lead to anything. So, 
    14 ongoing investigations that continue with 12 of them redacted in Team Mueller’s report. Yea, forgotten about by tomorrow.
     
    We're looking at waiting out some other stuff.  Anything of value may very well come out after November, 2020.
    Team Trump Treason will be disgraced like Nixon.
    I don't know. I don't think his followers will ever come to reality like Nixon's did.  Or the party.  The red/blue thing today is just different.  Red will never, ever stop protecting Trump.  
    The information in the Team Mueller report and what will come out in hill hearings will be campaign fodder. I can see the senate flipping.
     
    Senate has 53 Republicans and 47 Democrats (including two independents).

    There are 34 seats up in 2020 - including a special election in Arizona - of which 22 are held by the GOP.

    Democrats will need to gain 3 or 4 seats to take control. 

    Strong chance D's take the Senate in 2020.
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