A Justice Department spokeswoman said "every page" of Mueller's nearly 400-page report provided to Barr on March 22 was flagged as potentially containing material covered under a law that protects confidential grand jury information and "therefore could not be publicly released."
Hey guess what? Team Mueller investigators are leaking summaries of their investigation(s) to the press and the early reporting is that the Team Mueller report is worse than CYA Barr is letting on. Who would have thunk? 28-9.
If true (about the leaking), I find that incredibly dumb behaviour. The reason Mueller insisted on this secrecy all along the way was likely to avoid this falling into the court of public opinion for a complex situation in an era where people cling to the easiest (and most aligned with their own opinion) soundbite to swallow. To jeopardize this in the eleventh hour and give a possible argument of "this was coloured by public opinion" (which, if true, I think will happen based on past events), just seems counter-productive. I hope the truth comes out (what ever it may be), and I hope it does with proper protocol.
I disagree. Leaks are part of the game, particularly after the conclusion of the investigation. Team Mueller ran a very tight ship with no leaks or comments, other than to counter the false Buzzfeed report, during the investigation. Leaks now are indicative of members of Team Mueller being frustrated by a one sided narrative being spun by CYA Barr, who lobbied for the job to protect the president and is attempting to cover up the contents of the Team Mueller Report. You (general sense) don’t want leaks? Release the full report to Congress. The behavior begs the question, what are they hiding? Particularly since the report “fully exonerated” Team Trump Treason. 28-9.
"Leaks" are what lead to the collusion thoughts in the first place, which you mention and we see how that turned out...
No more leaks. No more "credible unnamed sources". Facts only please.
Release the whole damn report please.
“We see how that turned out.” What do you mean by that? There clearly was evidence of collusion just not enough to prosecute. Now the Mueller team is saying it’s worse than the AG characterized it. I think they are well within their right to say this since it appears as if the AG is acting in bad faith.
Yes give us the whole report. But...since the Mueller team themselves wrote a summary, why didn’t the AG just release that instead of putting his own spin on it? Something is afoot....
No just our Democracy I’m shocked you don’t see it happening !
I don't see our democracy falling, not more than it already has
Mass surveillance and media infiltration/subversion has been going on for a while now, decades actually, WELL before Trump, under both DNC & GOP administrations and houses of congress......
If anything, more people then ever are actively participating in the "democracy" and paying attention
No just our Democracy I’m shocked you don’t see it happening !
I don't see our democracy falling, not more than it already has
Mass surveillance and media infiltration/subversion has been going on for a while now, decades actually, WELL before Trump, under both DNC & GOP administrations and houses of congress......
If anything, more people then ever are actively participating in the "democracy" and paying attention
I don’t see it that way I believe he wants total control and power for decades!
No just our Democracy I’m shocked you don’t see it happening !
I don't see our democracy falling, not more than it already has
Mass surveillance and media infiltration/subversion has been going on for a while now, decades actually, WELL before Trump, under both DNC & GOP administrations and houses of congress......
If anything, more people then ever are actively participating in the "democracy" and paying attention
I think that's a key difference between you and some of us. I legitimately think authoritarianism is in play. Trump has been frustrated from day 1 with his inability to just make things happen by snapping his fingers. It's pretty clear he wants to be a dictator. I knew that coming in. But we have checks and balances. Well, I'm becoming less and less confident in those. We have one party, the more popular/powerful party, that seems to be OK with it. And 40% of the population with a level of devotion to Trump that we've never seen; not even for the more popular Reagan. If he wins in 2020, I really believe everything is on the table.
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Is "everything is fine!" more appropriate in your eyes?
Never has been... the truth is, i'm not so sure much has actually changed, if at all
Then you don't know much about what's going on in your own country, or seriously not actually paying attention to the details. Maybe try actually reading up on the real shit that has changed since Trump took power, rather than do whatever you're doing. I'm really not sure what you're considering if you think nothing or almost nothing has changed in America under Trump. A ton has changed, very much for the worse. (and look it up yourself please - I don't have time to do all the research for you).
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Is "everything is fine!" more appropriate in your eyes?
Never has been... the truth is, i'm not so sure much has actually changed, if at all
Then you don't know much about what's going on in your own country, or seriously not actually paying attention to the details. Maybe try actually reading up on the real shit that has changed since Trump took power, rather than do whatever you're doing. I'm really not sure what you're considering if you think nothing or almost nothing has changed in America under Trump. A ton has changed, very much for the worse. (and look it up yourself please - I don't have time to do all the research for you).
Similar to when the unemployment rate dropped six percent during the Obama administration?
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Is "everything is fine!" more appropriate in your eyes?
Never has been... the truth is, i'm not so sure much has actually changed, if at all
Then you don't know much about what's going on in your own country, or seriously not actually paying attention to the details. Maybe try actually reading up on the real shit that has changed since Trump took power, rather than do whatever you're doing. I'm really not sure what you're considering if you think nothing or almost nothing has changed in America under Trump. A ton has changed, very much for the worse. (and look it up yourself please - I don't have time to do all the research for you).
Similar to when the unemployment rate dropped six percent during the Obama administration?
Or mass surveillance of the American people continued under Obama? War criminals were let off the hook... as were financial criminals, who contributed to his campaign and paid him large sums to speak when he got out of office
Is "everything is fine!" more appropriate in your eyes?
Never has been... the truth is, i'm not so sure much has actually changed, if at all
Then you don't know much about what's going on in your own country, or seriously not actually paying attention to the details. Maybe try actually reading up on the real shit that has changed since Trump took power, rather than do whatever you're doing. I'm really not sure what you're considering if you think nothing or almost nothing has changed in America under Trump. A ton has changed, very much for the worse. (and look it up yourself please - I don't have time to do all the research for you).
Similar to when the unemployment rate dropped six percent during the Obama administration?
Or mass surveillance of the American people continued under Obama? War criminals were let off the hook... as were financial criminals, who contributed to his campaign and paid him large sums to speak when he got out of office
Yes we get it it’s all Obama’s & Clinton’s fault ..
Is "everything is fine!" more appropriate in your eyes?
Never has been... the truth is, i'm not so sure much has actually changed, if at all
Then you don't know much about what's going on in your own country, or seriously not actually paying attention to the details. Maybe try actually reading up on the real shit that has changed since Trump took power, rather than do whatever you're doing. I'm really not sure what you're considering if you think nothing or almost nothing has changed in America under Trump. A ton has changed, very much for the worse. (and look it up yourself please - I don't have time to do all the research for you).
A Canadian telling me i don't know whats going on in my country, that's rich
My point to Ben was simple, shit has always been fucked up and usually remains status quo through multiple administrations regardless of party
The lurch towards authoritarianism in America was happening way before Trump got on the scene but nobody gave a fuck
Did Guantanamo start under Trump? close during Obama? Imprisoning people without charge or trial FOR YEARS is about as fucking anti-American as it gets... and now people wanna start talking about an imperial presidency? Lol fucking hilarious
Trump write or vote for the patriot act? Mass surveillance? How about a kill list including American citizens that havent been charged with a crime? How about fabricating intelligence to justify an invasion of a sovereign nation resulting in 500,000 civilian deaths and a destabilized region???
Ya'll been asleep for 20 fucking years? Now because a crude clown is in there and CNN tells you the sky is falling every night you think issues just started?
Is "everything is fine!" more appropriate in your eyes?
Never has been... the truth is, i'm not so sure much has actually changed, if at all
Then you don't know much about what's going on in your own country, or seriously not actually paying attention to the details. Maybe try actually reading up on the real shit that has changed since Trump took power, rather than do whatever you're doing. I'm really not sure what you're considering if you think nothing or almost nothing has changed in America under Trump. A ton has changed, very much for the worse. (and look it up yourself please - I don't have time to do all the research for you).
Similar to when the unemployment rate dropped six percent during the Obama administration?
Or mass surveillance of the American people continued under Obama? War criminals were let off the hook... as were financial criminals, who contributed to his campaign and paid him large sums to speak when he got out of office
Golly that sounds awfully similar to the current administration. But, yeah, let's harp on stuff from 10 years ago. That's productive.
Not to mention that it was the Obama Administration that ended the mass surveillance program and didn’t turn it over to the next one nor started it. But you know, both sides are the same. War criminals were let off the hook but neither did the repub congress hold anyone accountable for war crimes or economic crisis. But again both sides are the same and congress could have held the executive in check but we’ll just blame Obama (I almost said “black guy”). And giving speeches after you leave office? Guess he should have gone back to community organizing? No quid pro quo, yo. You going to be beating this drum in 2020 and beyond?
Is "everything is fine!" more appropriate in your eyes?
Never has been... the truth is, i'm not so sure much has actually changed, if at all
Then you don't know much about what's going on in your own country, or seriously not actually paying attention to the details. Maybe try actually reading up on the real shit that has changed since Trump took power, rather than do whatever you're doing. I'm really not sure what you're considering if you think nothing or almost nothing has changed in America under Trump. A ton has changed, very much for the worse. (and look it up yourself please - I don't have time to do all the research for you).
A Canadian telling me i don't know whats going on in my country, that's rich
My point to Ben was simple, shit has always been fucked up and usually remains status quo through multiple administrations regardless of party
The lurch towards authoritarianism in America was happening way before Trump got on the scene but nobody gave a fuck
Did Guantanamo start under Trump? close during Obama? Imprisoning people without charge or trial FOR YEARS is about as fucking anti-American as it gets... and now people wanna start talking about an imperial presidency? Lol fucking hilarious
Trump write or vote for the patriot act? Mass surveillance? How about a kill list including American citizens that havent been charged with a crime? How about fabricating intelligence to justify an invasion of a sovereign nation resulting in 500,000 civilian deaths and a destabilized region???
Ya'll been asleep for 20 fucking years? Now because a crude clown is in there and CNN tells you the sky is falling every night you think issues just started?
Give me a break
No one is telling me the sky is falling i see it every day through his actions !
Is "everything is fine!" more appropriate in your eyes?
Never has been... the truth is, i'm not so sure much has actually changed, if at all
Then you don't know much about what's going on in your own country, or seriously not actually paying attention to the details. Maybe try actually reading up on the real shit that has changed since Trump took power, rather than do whatever you're doing. I'm really not sure what you're considering if you think nothing or almost nothing has changed in America under Trump. A ton has changed, very much for the worse. (and look it up yourself please - I don't have time to do all the research for you).
Similar to when the unemployment rate dropped six percent during the Obama administration?
Or mass surveillance of the American people continued under Obama? War criminals were let off the hook... as were financial criminals, who contributed to his campaign and paid him large sums to speak when he got out of office
Yes we get it it’s all Obama’s & Clinton’s fault ..
Is "everything is fine!" more appropriate in your eyes?
Never has been... the truth is, i'm not so sure much has actually changed, if at all
Then you don't know much about what's going on in your own country, or seriously not actually paying attention to the details. Maybe try actually reading up on the real shit that has changed since Trump took power, rather than do whatever you're doing. I'm really not sure what you're considering if you think nothing or almost nothing has changed in America under Trump. A ton has changed, very much for the worse. (and look it up yourself please - I don't have time to do all the research for you).
A Canadian telling me i don't know whats going on in my country, that's rich
My point to Ben was simple, shit has always been fucked up and usually remains status quo through multiple administrations regardless of party
The lurch towards authoritarianism in America was happening way before Trump got on the scene but nobody gave a fuck
Did Guantanamo start under Trump? close during Obama? Imprisoning people without charge or trial FOR YEARS is about as fucking anti-American as it gets... and now people wanna start talking about an imperial presidency? Lol fucking hilarious
Trump write or vote for the patriot act? Mass surveillance? How about a kill list including American citizens that havent been charged with a crime? How about fabricating intelligence to justify an invasion of a sovereign nation resulting in 500,000 civilian deaths and a destabilized region???
Ya'll been asleep for 20 fucking years? Now because a crude clown is in there and CNN tells you the sky is falling every night you think issues just started?
Give me a break
I can only base it off of what you say Dude. If you say that you're not sure so much has actually changed, if anything at all, then you must not know ... or absolutely don't give a shit.
I have no clue why you've turned to whataboutism right now.
FWIW, I'm not talking about authoritarianism (or not only anyway). I'm talking about shit that affects people's daily lives, like the American economy and environment. Regulation changes with huge impacts. Taxation. The SCOTUS. The GOP. The deficit. Abortion rights with an aim to attack RvW. Oh, and kids in cages of course. Hey, don't get mad at me if you're refusing to acknowledge that many things have gotten dramatically worse specifically under Trump.
And for the 10th time, I don't watch CNN. Ever. I don't subscribe to it. I don't consume any major US news networks unless you folks post it here.
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A Justice Department spokeswoman said "every page" of Mueller's nearly 400-page report provided to Barr on March 22 was flagged as potentially containing material covered under a law that protects confidential grand jury information and "therefore could not be publicly released."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/04/politics/justice-department-mueller-report-findings-william-barr/index.html
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Yes give us the whole report. But...since the Mueller team themselves wrote a summary, why didn’t the AG just release that instead of putting his own spin on it? Something is afoot....
It's actually Ben. My middle name starts with J and last name with S. You're both awesome people too, though that goes without saying!
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Mass surveillance and media infiltration/subversion has been going on for a while now, decades actually, WELL before Trump, under both DNC & GOP administrations and houses of congress......
If anything, more people then ever are actively participating in the "democracy" and paying attention
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Similar to when the unemployment rate dropped six percent during the Obama administration?
The better question, Jose, is how much they're making WHILST purging this nation.
My point to Ben was simple, shit has always been fucked up and usually remains status quo through multiple administrations regardless of party
The lurch towards authoritarianism in America was happening way before Trump got on the scene but nobody gave a fuck
Did Guantanamo start under Trump? close during Obama? Imprisoning people without charge or trial FOR YEARS is about as fucking anti-American as it gets... and now people wanna start talking about an imperial presidency? Lol fucking hilarious
Trump write or vote for the patriot act? Mass surveillance? How about a kill list including American citizens that havent been charged with a crime? How about fabricating intelligence to justify an invasion of a sovereign nation resulting in 500,000 civilian deaths and a destabilized region???
Ya'll been asleep for 20 fucking years? Now because a crude clown is in there and CNN tells you the sky is falling every night you think issues just started?
Give me a break
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i see it every day through his actions !