Recent Wave of Immigrant Arrests - What Does it Mean?

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited February 2017
    Godfather. said:

    HFD you dislike borders right ? do you enjoy living in Canada without the pesky laws that govern the United States ? or other countries' ?
    your open border and free reign for the people idea is noble but seriously un-workable....it's a hippy pipe dream and hopefully someday you'll realize open borders will never work.

    Does God like Americans more than others, GF?

    Doesn't your church teach you to love your brother and sister? Are some humans less loveable in the eyes of God?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    Correct.

    The brainwashing you are subjected to will direct your thoughts and actions.

    If you were born into the church of the fonz... you would believe you could start jukeboxes by smacking them with the back of your fist. And you would say, "Heyyyyy" and "exactumundo" a lot.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    Correct.

    The brainwashing you are subjected to will direct your thoughts and actions.

    If you were born into the church of the fonz... you would believe you could start jukeboxes by smacking them with the back of your fist. And you would say, "Heyyyyy" and "exactumundo" a lot.
    Sounds like a pretty benign church. I could get behind a Church Of The Fonz.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    dignin said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    Correct.

    The brainwashing you are subjected to will direct your thoughts and actions.

    If you were born into the church of the fonz... you would believe you could start jukeboxes by smacking them with the back of your fist. And you would say, "Heyyyyy" and "exactumundo" a lot.
    Sounds like a pretty benign church. I could get behind a Church Of The Fonz.
    If you're in the market for a church, go with Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Great food, chill people, and lots of fringe benefits.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    oftenreading said:

    dignin said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    Correct.

    The brainwashing you are subjected to will direct your thoughts and actions.

    If you were born into the church of the fonz... you would believe you could start jukeboxes by smacking them with the back of your fist. And you would say, "Heyyyyy" and "exactumundo" a lot.
    Sounds like a pretty benign church. I could get behind a Church Of The Fonz.
    If you're in the market for a church, go with Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Great food, chill people, and lots of fringe benefits.
    Already a member. But I'm open to belonging to many faiths.

    Ramen.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2017
    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    That and due to the fact that you stand a real chance of being stoned to death for practicing Christianity in many primarily muslim countries... Your same rule probably applies for atheism.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJPOWER said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    That and due to the fact that you stand a real chance of being stoned to death for practicing Christianity in many primarily muslim countries...
    Which speaks to the general assertion that religion is f**ked.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    PJPOWER said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    That and due to the fact that you stand a real chance of being stoned to death for practicing Christianity in many primarily muslim countries...
    Really? Which countries?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited February 2017
    PJPOWER said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    That and due to the fact that you stand a real chance of being stoned to death for practicing Christianity in many primarily muslim countries... Your same rule probably applies for atheism.
    Also, let's not forget the punishment for apostasy.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJPOWER said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    That and due to the fact that you stand a real chance of being stoned to death for practicing Christianity in many primarily muslim countries... Your same rule probably applies for atheism.
    You can also be shot to death for going to a mosque in Quebec.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dignin said:

    PJPOWER said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    That and due to the fact that you stand a real chance of being stoned to death for practicing Christianity in many primarily muslim countries... Your same rule probably applies for atheism.
    You can also be shot to death for going to a mosque in Quebec.
    Except that it would be viewed as unjustified by the majority in Canada.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJPOWER said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    That and due to the fact that you stand a real chance of being stoned to death for practicing Christianity in many primarily muslim countries... Your same rule probably applies for atheism.
    and if you are born & raised in India you are likely a Hindu... and if you are born & raised in Thailand you are likely a Buddhist... none of which stone Christians by the way... so i'm not sure what your point was

    and if your brain is functioning in 2017, then you are likely an Atheist or Agnostic :)



  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    Godfather. said:

    HFD you dislike borders right ? do you enjoy living in Canada without the pesky laws that govern the United States ? or other countries' ?
    your open border and free reign for the people idea is noble but seriously un-workable....it's a hippy pipe dream and hopefully someday you'll realize open borders will never work.

    I think borders are stupid in the philisophical sense. yes, borders are obviously required for economics; countries would collapse without them. But you, and many other americans, think a border means I can't have an opinion, and that's just plain stupid.

    not to mention that many americans don't give a sweet fuck about the sovereignty of other nations' borders, but when it comes to their own, it's "GET THE FUCK OFF MY LAWN". it's fundamentally hypocritical.
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    Godfather. said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Godfather. said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Maybe when there is no more poverty , otherwise I'd say we can't stop ever !
    We can't empty the boat when water keeps flowing in.
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    unsung said:

    oftenreading said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
    Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
    well, I guess I could respond to that if I believed equating immigrants with criminals made a lick of sense.
    ????? really ?

    comprehension problem?
    no, just total amazement at your lack of understanding of the real world, this country and all others have fought and maintained borders
    from the beginning even the native Americans (or so they're called) fought for and killed each other for hunting grounds and living areas
    and it was always a matter of survival...to maintain a peoples security, your free love, hippy way of thinking is what wiped-out some of the non aggressive tribes and cultures but I'm sure you don't believe that right ?
    even the hippy generation grew up and understood the means of survival, you really should put that fad away and think in terms of survival yourself...just say'n..


    I live in the real world. you live in a world of deluded fear that you have bought from fox news and other right wing sources, coupled with your own experiences that have clouded your judgment into thinking all your countries' woes are the work of immigrants and other people you think wish to do you harm.

    your country's economy is partially built around the powers that be maintaining that fear of its people.

    no one is saying just let anyone walk anywhere on earth as they please. I NEVER, EVER SAID THAT. But closing the door on people in need goes against what your country (and mine) was founded on. how ironic, since that's all the second ammendment folks blather on about, "our founding fathers/principles" when it comes to gun rights, but forget the "bring us your tired...." when it doesn't suit them.
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    edited February 2017
    not to mention, your several questions marks surrounding the word "really" was in response to me not wanting to equate all immigrants with criminals. not open borders.

    so you think like trump does, that all immigrants are rapists and murderers?
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2017
    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    That and due to the fact that you stand a real chance of being stoned to death for practicing Christianity in many primarily muslim countries...
    Really? Which countries?
    Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan,Pakistan, Iran, Libya...

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/17/world/christian-persecution-2015/
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2017
    my2hands said:

    PJPOWER said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    That and due to the fact that you stand a real chance of being stoned to death for practicing Christianity in many primarily muslim countries... Your same rule probably applies for atheism.
    and if you are born & raised in India you are likely a Hindu... and if you are born & raised in Thailand you are likely a Buddhist... none of which stone Christians by the way... so i'm not sure what your point was

    and if your brain is functioning in 2017, then you are likely an Atheist or Agnostic :)



    Just pointing out that there are a few specific reasons that you do not see much religious or cultural diversity in some nations. The US is extremely diverse and welcoming compared to many other nations. I'm not disagreeing with you, just expanding on your idea that some places do not give people much choice as to what they become, religious or otherwise. And many of them where people are starving are not very welcoming to any type of foreign relief, through religious non-profits or otherwise.
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  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    my2hands said:

    any American Christian that thinks they would still be a Christian if they were born & raised in Riyadh Saudi Arabia is a fool, there is a 99.8% chance you would be a practicing Muslim

    Religion is largely decided by where you live and who you are raised and surrounded by. period. full stop.

    Correct.

    The brainwashing you are subjected to will direct your thoughts and actions.

    If you were born into the church of the fonz... you would believe you could start jukeboxes by smacking them with the back of your fist. And you would say, "Heyyyyy" and "exactumundo" a lot.
    Haha
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    All of us here have found the church of Pearl Jam and we are all nutty to our friends.
    Oh the irony.

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