At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
But they do exist. All the borders and laws that are in effect now are there as a result of an evolution of human existence on this planet. They are necessary to maintain order, protect property rights, allow for certain freedoms, etc... some are good, some are bad.
I get that the birth lottery isn't fair, but I bet you appreciate the lock on your door and the laws that protect your property you rent or own.
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
But they do exist. All the borders and laws that are in effect now are there as a result of an evolution of human existence on this planet. They are necessary to maintain order, protect property rights, allow for certain freedoms, etc... some are good, some are bad.
I get that the birth lottery isn't fair, but I bet you appreciate the lock on your door and the laws that protect your property you rent or own.
my point is I can't stand this "stay out of my country" bullshit. countries are man made dividers. I understand the fundamental need for them, but to use them as some type of reasoning for not helping others, I find, is completely unacceptable.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
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At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
well, I guess I could respond to that if I believed equating immigrants with criminals made a lick of sense.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
You mean you only believe in 'your' property rights. Native Indians believe in property rights too. All the arguments you make are moot.
This exclusion attitude has been around a long time. Didn't European groups such as the Irish and the Italians face hostility as they- like the English people right before them- tried to make a new life for themselves on a new continent? Say nothing of the Chinese who were treated like garbage. Oh yah... blacks faced some hostility too.
On the micro scale, lock your door. It makes perfect sense to. But don't equate locking your door from outsiders to locking a massive chunk of land to outsiders when you're an outsider to begin with.
I'd say watch what you wish for we are all one dreadful event from being homeless or destitute , I say there is enough in this country to take care of the needy !
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
Your own country is not always picking up the slack. As a percentage of national income, the contribution from the US to foreign aid, for example, is small. You're pretty much middle to low end of the pack.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
But they do exist. All the borders and laws that are in effect now are there as a result of an evolution of human existence on this planet. They are necessary to maintain order, protect property rights, allow for certain freedoms, etc... some are good, some are bad.
I get that the birth lottery isn't fair, but I bet you appreciate the lock on your door and the laws that protect your property you rent or own.
my point is I can't stand this "stay out of my country" bullshit. countries are man made dividers. I understand the fundamental need for them, but to use them as some type of reasoning for not helping others, I find, is completely unacceptable.
I don't disagree. It bugs me that some wealthy family can buy up thousands and thousands of acres and 200 years later it is still controlled by their heirs who did nothing for it.
I'm just for responsible, legal immigration. If we need 1,000,000 Mexicans to work in the USA in 2018 than lets get it done through the legal process.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
well, I guess I could respond to that if I believed equating immigrants with criminals made a lick of sense.
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
well, I guess I could respond to that if I believed equating immigrants with criminals made a lick of sense.
????? really ?
comprehension problem?
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
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At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
Your own country is not always picking up the slack. As a percentage of national income, the contribution from the US to foreign aid, for example, is small. You're pretty much middle to low end of the pack.
Foreign aid should be zero. We have too many of our own problems.
At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?
Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.
Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.
Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
Well said, Thirty.
Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.
Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
well, I guess I could respond to that if I believed equating immigrants with criminals made a lick of sense.
????? really ?
comprehension problem?
no, just total amazement at your lack of understanding of the real world, this country and all others have fought and maintained borders from the beginning even the native Americans (or so they're called) fought for and killed each other for hunting grounds and living areas and it was always a matter of survival...to maintain a peoples security, your free love, hippy way of thinking is what wiped-out some of the non aggressive tribes and cultures but I'm sure you don't believe that right ? even the hippy generation grew up and understood the means of survival, you really should put that fad away and think in terms of survival yourself...just say'n..
HFD you dislike borders right ? do you enjoy living in Canada without the pesky laws that govern the United States ? or other countries' ? your open border and free reign for the people idea is noble but seriously un-workable....it's a hippy pipe dream and hopefully someday you'll realize open borders will never work.
HFD you dislike borders right ? do you enjoy living in Canada without the pesky laws that govern the United States ? or other countries' ? your open border and free reign for the people idea is noble but seriously un-workable....it's a hippy pipe dream and hopefully someday you'll realize open borders will never work.
So you don't like , immigrants , Muslims, native Americans but hippies too ! Man how do you look in the mirror...
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-EV 8/14/93
I get that the birth lottery isn't fair, but I bet you appreciate the lock on your door and the laws that protect your property you rent or own.
-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93
This exclusion attitude has been around a long time. Didn't European groups such as the Irish and the Italians face hostility as they- like the English people right before them- tried to make a new life for themselves on a new continent? Say nothing of the Chinese who were treated like garbage. Oh yah... blacks faced some hostility too.
On the micro scale, lock your door. It makes perfect sense to. But don't equate locking your door from outsiders to locking a massive chunk of land to outsiders when you're an outsider to begin with.
I'm just for responsible, legal immigration. If we need 1,000,000 Mexicans to work in the USA in 2018 than lets get it done through the legal process.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
-EV 8/14/93
if anybody thinks they have, they are a dick.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Let's do charity willingly and not forced under the threat of being killed.
I know I would donate more than I already do.
from the beginning even the native Americans (or so they're called) fought for and killed each other for hunting grounds and living areas
and it was always a matter of survival...to maintain a peoples security, your free love, hippy way of thinking is what wiped-out some of the non aggressive tribes and cultures but I'm sure you don't believe that right ?
even the hippy generation grew up and understood the means of survival, you really should put that fad away and think in terms of survival yourself...just say'n..
your open border and free reign for the people idea is noble but seriously un-workable....it's a hippy pipe dream and hopefully someday you'll realize open borders will never work.