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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,840
    Playing chicken... this is another business tactic. Be interesting to see if it works

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-freedom-caucus-health-care-236418
  • mrussel1 said:

    Playing chicken... this is another business tactic. Be interesting to see if it works

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-freedom-caucus-health-care-236418

    If this isn't fake news this is awesome.
    My man Trump.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,840

    mrussel1 said:

    Playing chicken... this is another business tactic. Be interesting to see if it works

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-freedom-caucus-health-care-236418

    If this isn't fake news this is awesome.
    My man Trump.
    Don't be such a lemming.. if this isn't fake news. Whatever.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Potential Smoking Gun says James Rosen

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

    Rosen has first hand experience with the abuses of the Obama administration. We'll see if this is something or the equivalent of last night's CNN story on russia.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    BS44325 said:

    Potential Smoking Gun says James Rosen

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

    Rosen has first hand experience with the abuses of the Obama administration. We'll see if this is something or the equivalent of last night's CNN story on russia.

    It's a reach. My understanding is that if intelligence reveals someone's name, that means they're suspect of something. Maybe I'm wrong. Righties trying to claim Obama did anything illegal seems to be backfiring.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,418

    BS44325 said:

    Potential Smoking Gun says James Rosen

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

    Rosen has first hand experience with the abuses of the Obama administration. We'll see if this is something or the equivalent of last night's CNN story on russia.

    It's a reach. My understanding is that if intelligence reveals someone's name, that means they're suspect of something. Maybe I'm wrong. Righties trying to claim Obama did anything illegal seems to be backfiring.
    Again, which administration is more likely to have done something illegal?

    http://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/11/1619079/-Comparing-Presidential-Administrations-by-Arrests-and-Convictions-A-Warning-for-Trump-Appointees

    Faux News is a little late to the game. Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,418
    This couldn't possibly be a distraction from the failed healthcare repeal/replace non-vote, could it? Or a deflection?
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762

    No one talks about that today President Trump was meeting with Truckers and hearing their voice, why not?
    Listen to the audio from the latest tweet. Nothing wrong with this in fact it is very Presidential.

    I saw it live. It was fine. It was "very presidential" in that he didn't make boom boom on the conference table. Low bar, I guess.

    The pictures of him farting around in the big rig while his health care bill went up in flames reminded me of dorky Dukakis in the tank, though.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762

    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Yep, meant to post the link. Thanks for that.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,418


    Bright shining brilliance in all his brilliant glory. Follow the incompetence, from Trump with love, all the way to impeachment.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    Top White House officials descended on Capitol Hill Thursday night to personally deliver President Donald Trump's ultimatum to House Republicans: Negotiations on their health care bill are over, and the House will vote Friday.

    Then, there was this: If the bill doesn't pass Friday, Trump is ready to move on and Republicans will be "stuck with Obamacare."

    what a dealmaker...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,418
    Way to focus on the important stuff there Rick, in your new, in way over your head, position.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/23/us/rick-perry-texas-gay-student-body-president/index.html

    More brilliance on display.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited March 2017
    Republican majority at every level of government from sea to shining sea... with 7 years of repeal & replace promises & rhetoric... and this is the steaming turd they can come up with?

    sending a real good message to those independent, moderate, and swing voters for 2018 & 2020.

    bravo :dizzy:
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,150
    BS44325 said:

    Potential Smoking Gun says James Rosen

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

    Rosen has first hand experience with the abuses of the Obama administration. We'll see if this is something or the equivalent of last night's CNN story on russia.

    Why would anyone spy on Trump??? It would be a waste of time. He displays his strategy on Twitter. His team is a suicide squad of incompetent nitwits.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kRpS8mwJ14
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,972
    BS44325 said:

    Potential Smoking Gun says James Rosen

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

    Rosen has first hand experience with the abuses of the Obama administration. We'll see if this is something or the equivalent of last night's CNN story on russia.

    So faux news is legit oh ok ...but all others are fake..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    It's going to pass
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    Anybody read this? Gave me a headache. One of the "gems":
    "I can’t be doing so badly, because I’m president, and you’re not. You know."
    http://time.com/4710456/donald-trump-time-interview-truth-falsehood/

    Jezebel Redacted Everything That's Not a Verifiably True Statement From Trump's Time Interview About Truth

  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    No one talks about that today President Trump was meeting with Truckers and hearing their voice, why not?
    Listen to the audio from the latest tweet. Nothing wrong with this in fact it is very Presidential.

    Great. Another step backwards.

    Truckers are shitting themselves right now. The technology is dogfart away from replacing an entire industry there. No doubt they'll get all sorts of job protections out of this meeting.

    ...the free market, small government party at work...
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    edited March 2017
    CM189191 said:

    No one talks about that today President Trump was meeting with Truckers and hearing their voice, why not?
    Listen to the audio from the latest tweet. Nothing wrong with this in fact it is very Presidential.

    Great. Another step backwards.

    Truckers are shitting themselves right now. The technology is dogfart away from replacing an entire industry there. No doubt they'll get all sorts of job protections out of this meeting.

    ...the free market, small government party at work...
    Meanwhile Mnuchin says he is not evening thinking about AI replacing jobs because it is 50-100 years away...
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    CM189191 said:

    No one talks about that today President Trump was meeting with Truckers and hearing their voice, why not?
    Listen to the audio from the latest tweet. Nothing wrong with this in fact it is very Presidential.

    Great. Another step backwards.

    Truckers are shitting themselves right now. The technology is dogfart away from replacing an entire industry there. No doubt they'll get all sorts of job protections out of this meeting.

    ...the free market, small government party at work...
    Similar to the burger flipping/kiosk machines being incorporated into fast food chains due the rising costs of hiring more workers? Progress?
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    PJPOWER said:

    CM189191 said:

    No one talks about that today President Trump was meeting with Truckers and hearing their voice, why not?
    Listen to the audio from the latest tweet. Nothing wrong with this in fact it is very Presidential.

    Great. Another step backwards.

    Truckers are shitting themselves right now. The technology is dogfart away from replacing an entire industry there. No doubt they'll get all sorts of job protections out of this meeting.

    ...the free market, small government party at work...
    Similar to the burger flipping/kiosk machines being incorporated into fast food chains due the rising costs of hiring more workers? Progress?
    It doesn't matter if it's progress or not, it's happening. This is why all the talk of bringing manufacturing back is stupid. It ain't happening. It's only going to get worse. Either we adapt or we fall behind. We need to educate our people for new skills in a changing technological world, not bitch about the good ole' days.
  • cottagesteezecottagesteeze St. Paul, MN Posts: 218

    PJPOWER said:

    CM189191 said:

    No one talks about that today President Trump was meeting with Truckers and hearing their voice, why not?
    Listen to the audio from the latest tweet. Nothing wrong with this in fact it is very Presidential.

    Great. Another step backwards.

    Truckers are shitting themselves right now. The technology is dogfart away from replacing an entire industry there. No doubt they'll get all sorts of job protections out of this meeting.

    ...the free market, small government party at work...
    Similar to the burger flipping/kiosk machines being incorporated into fast food chains due the rising costs of hiring more workers? Progress?
    It doesn't matter if it's progress or not, it's happening. This is why all the talk of bringing manufacturing back is stupid. It ain't happening. It's only going to get worse. Either we adapt or we fall behind. We need to educate our people for new skills in a changing technological world, not bitch about the good ole' days.
    The good ole days will be when we dont have to use humans on manufacturing lines... Just needs to be embraced instead of feared.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,840
    PJPOWER said:

    CM189191 said:

    No one talks about that today President Trump was meeting with Truckers and hearing their voice, why not?
    Listen to the audio from the latest tweet. Nothing wrong with this in fact it is very Presidential.

    Great. Another step backwards.

    Truckers are shitting themselves right now. The technology is dogfart away from replacing an entire industry there. No doubt they'll get all sorts of job protections out of this meeting.

    ...the free market, small government party at work...
    Similar to the burger flipping/kiosk machines being incorporated into fast food chains due the rising costs of hiring more workers? Progress?
    Depends on how you define it I suppose. It is certainly efficiency and increased productivity. But these same arguments were made when the cotton gin was created, the assembly line, cranes invented, etc. Nothing we see is unique. Every time there is a dramatic change in technology, people are left behind. And there's always a demagogue that says he is going to stop it....and doesn't.
  • Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,374
    edited March 2017
    CM189191 said:

    Anybody read this? Gave me a headache. One of the "gems":
    "I can’t be doing so badly, because I’m president, and you’re not. You know."
    http://time.com/4710456/donald-trump-time-interview-truth-falsehood/

    Jezebel Redacted Everything That's Not a Verifiably True Statement From Trump's Time Interview About Truth

    :lol:
    I laugh, but it is sad, really.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880

    PJPOWER said:

    CM189191 said:

    No one talks about that today President Trump was meeting with Truckers and hearing their voice, why not?
    Listen to the audio from the latest tweet. Nothing wrong with this in fact it is very Presidential.

    Great. Another step backwards.

    Truckers are shitting themselves right now. The technology is dogfart away from replacing an entire industry there. No doubt they'll get all sorts of job protections out of this meeting.

    ...the free market, small government party at work...
    Similar to the burger flipping/kiosk machines being incorporated into fast food chains due the rising costs of hiring more workers? Progress?
    It doesn't matter if it's progress or not, it's happening. This is why all the talk of bringing manufacturing back is stupid. It ain't happening. It's only going to get worse. Either we adapt or we fall behind. We need to educate our people for new skills in a changing technological world, not bitch about the good ole' days.
    The good ole days will be when we dont have to use humans on manufacturing lines... Just needs to be embraced instead of feared.
    Yep...change is hard, but change is happening fast.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    If the wealthcare bill passes today Trump will look like the strong man deal maker he and his rubes claim.
    I really hope that doesn't happen, because if he forces a vote and it fails he looks like the spoiled brat that he is.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,840
    rgambs said:

    If the wealthcare bill passes today Trump will look like the strong man deal maker he and his rubes claim.
    I really hope that doesn't happen, because if he forces a vote and it fails he looks like the spoiled brat that he is.

    The path to actually become a law is a lot different and difficult. The sad thing is I don't think Trump gives a damn what's in the bill, it's just about the optics. Such is the mindset of a two bit salesman.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited March 2017

    PJPOWER said:

    CM189191 said:

    No one talks about that today President Trump was meeting with Truckers and hearing their voice, why not?
    Listen to the audio from the latest tweet. Nothing wrong with this in fact it is very Presidential.

    Great. Another step backwards.

    Truckers are shitting themselves right now. The technology is dogfart away from replacing an entire industry there. No doubt they'll get all sorts of job protections out of this meeting.

    ...the free market, small government party at work...
    Similar to the burger flipping/kiosk machines being incorporated into fast food chains due the rising costs of hiring more workers? Progress?
    It doesn't matter if it's progress or not, it's happening. This is why all the talk of bringing manufacturing back is stupid. It ain't happening. It's only going to get worse. Either we adapt or we fall behind. We need to educate our people for new skills in a changing technological world, not bitch about the good ole' days.
    Amen

    Amen

    Amen

    Wake up America and take the lead moving it the 21st century instead of trying to rebuild the economy of 1950
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