Eddie Vedder w/ Voice Of Chicago will perform at POTUS's Farewell Address

helplessdancer

just like the chris martin and ed's version of nothinman...i LOVE this version of RITFW. awesome piano and back up singing ++

Abe Froman

RYME said:

Say it with me
Worst president ever!
Just making friends and influencing people!

Gimmie a fucking break. Such a stupid statement.

tbergs

RYME said:

Say it with me
Worst president ever!
Just making friends and influencing people!

Hmm, so now making friends and influencing them to be decent human beings is a bad thing? It's better than being the President of Tweeting Useless Shit.

PJForceofNature

Fantastic! Thanks, Demetrios. Nice, slower version of the song, and sounded great with the choir!

Zod

RYME said:

Say it with me
Worst president ever!
Just making friends and influencing people!

Really? From my outside perspective it feels like he left the country in better shape than he inherited in. He took over during the worst economic crisis since the 1930's. Obviously it's not hard to improve from being at the bottom, but still he wasn't the guy that put it there.

Honestly if Trump ends up being good or bad.. I doubt he makes much of a difference either. Given the division of power in the US political system (which was intentional by the drafters of the constitution who were very anti-monarchy) it's pretty difficult for a President to press any kind of an agenda. Congress pulls most of the strings when it comes to introducing bills and approving spending. Both Obama and Trump both got elected on campaigns of change, and the American public kind of falls for it every time. Not really understanding how their own political system actual works.

Prime Ministers in British Style Parliamentary systems have cart blanche power, US presidents do not.

bootlegger10

Obama's foreign policy was a disaster. Obama basically continued the same bailouts Bush would have done. Obamacare is hanging on by a thread. He maintained the domestic side but foreign policy was shit and the world is less stable and safe because of it.

Not the worst president (and not saying a bad one), but just because he didn't start the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't mean he can't fail when the Middle East is worse than he found it. Just like a company that is struggling and hires a new CEO. The CEO is hired to fix things and make them better. If the company gets worse than he failed at his job that he was hired to do.

Spiritual_Chaos

bootlegger10 said:

Obama's foreign policy was a disaster. Obama basically continued the same bailouts Bush would have done. Obamacare is hanging on by a thread. He maintained the domestic side but foreign policy was shit and the world is less stable and safe because of it.

Not the worst president (and not saying a bad one), but just because he didn't start the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't mean he can't fail when the Middle East is worse than he found it. Just like a company that is struggling and hires a new CEO. The CEO is hired to fix things and make them better. If the company gets worse than he failed at his job that he was hired to do.

What would you have done from your armchair?

Spiritual_Chaos

Wma31394 said:

demetrios said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idUTPJkG23U

I'm not really feeling this version..still cool though

Every song isn't made to be played slow...

Nice effort. But not really feeling it either.

Sounds a bit "forced" like Slow Lukin.

bootlegger10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bootlegger10 said:

Obama's foreign policy was a disaster. Obama basically continued the same bailouts Bush would have done. Obamacare is hanging on by a thread. He maintained the domestic side but foreign policy was shit and the world is less stable and safe because of it.

Not the worst president (and not saying a bad one), but just because he didn't start the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't mean he can't fail when the Middle East is worse than he found it. Just like a company that is struggling and hires a new CEO. The CEO is hired to fix things and make them better. If the company gets worse than he failed at his job that he was hired to do.

What would you have done from your armchair?

Set up safe zones in Syria a long, long time ago. I am not qualified to be President but I can see the state of the world now and it is not good. PJ scrapped a tour in Europe because it wasn't stable enough.

Holland

bootlegger10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bootlegger10 said:

Obama's foreign policy was a disaster. Obama basically continued the same bailouts Bush would have done. Obamacare is hanging on by a thread. He maintained the domestic side but foreign policy was shit and the world is less stable and safe because of it.

Not the worst president (and not saying a bad one), but just because he didn't start the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't mean he can't fail when the Middle East is worse than he found it. Just like a company that is struggling and hires a new CEO. The CEO is hired to fix things and make them better. If the company gets worse than he failed at his job that he was hired to do.

What would you have done from your armchair?

Set up safe zones in Syria a long, long time ago. I am not qualified to be President but I can see the state of the world now and it is not good. PJ scrapped a tour in Europe because it wasn't stable enough.

Link to this? I find this very hard to believe.

Joe118

Love Ed but I have avoided watching any of this stuff. Obama is the second worst president of my lifetime (Carter) and it's just brutally awkward to watch any of the "celebration" of his candidacy.

demetrios

maverick

Joe118 said:

Love Ed but I have avoided watching any of this stuff. Obama is the second worst president of my lifetime (Carter) and it's just brutally awkward to watch any of the "celebration" of his candidacy.

Yeah, I agree. What was it only 70 plus months of positive job growth? US Auto industry saved and doing much better than before. Gas prices down, stock market steadily up for 8 years.
Oh yeah and he ended the Iraq war and brought thousands of troops home with all bodily features in tact. (Sarcasm)
What, did you like when the US invaded Iraq over lies for oil and resulted in thousands of US soldiers dying and coming back missing limbs? You must have loved how the republican led congress then cut veterans benefits. (They take care of our veterans,right? While trump kept saying we don't take care of the veterans, did anyone ask whether the republican led house or senate had offered any legislation the past 6 years to help them? Oh yeah, they didn't.).
Well at least the rich will get more tax cuts again. That should help the deficit (which got smaller each of the past 8 years) and the debt which has exploded. Those fiscal conservatives will surely fix that via exploding deficits.
Give me a break.
President Obama is someone our country can be proud of.
Bush 43... There's a reason he and Cheney haven't left the US in 8 years. They can't. It's called war crimes they have been found guilty of. Fact

HughFreakingDillon

maverick said:

Joe118 said:

Love Ed but I have avoided watching any of this stuff. Obama is the second worst president of my lifetime (Carter) and it's just brutally awkward to watch any of the "celebration" of his candidacy.

Yeah, I agree. What was it only 70 plus months of positive job growth? US Auto industry saved and doing much better than before. Gas prices down, stock market steadily up for 8 years.
Oh yeah and he ended the Iraq war and brought thousands of troops home with all bodily features in tact. (Sarcasm)
What, did you like when the US invaded Iraq over lies for oil and resulted in thousands of US soldiers dying and coming back missing limbs? You must have loved how the republican led congress then cut veterans benefits. (They take care of our veterans,right? While trump kept saying we don't take care of the veterans, did anyone ask whether the republican led house or senate had offered any legislation the past 6 years to help them? Oh yeah, they didn't.).
Well at least the rich will get more tax cuts again. That should help the deficit (which got smaller each of the past 8 years) and the debt which has exploded. Those fiscal conservatives will surely fix that via exploding deficits.
Give me a break.
President Obama is someone our country can be proud of.
Bush 43... There's a reason he and Cheney haven't left the US in 8 years. They can't. It's called war crimes they have been found guilty of. Fact

there simply is no reasonable argument for obama being a bad president. I keep seeing one or two talking points and that's it. the list of his accomplishments is far longer than his failures. and his failures were at least ATTEMPTS at making life better for the americans.

Wma31394

HughFreakingDillon said:

maverick said:

Joe118 said:

Love Ed but I have avoided watching any of this stuff. Obama is the second worst president of my lifetime (Carter) and it's just brutally awkward to watch any of the "celebration" of his candidacy.

Yeah, I agree. What was it only 70 plus months of positive job growth? US Auto industry saved and doing much better than before. Gas prices down, stock market steadily up for 8 years.
Oh yeah and he ended the Iraq war and brought thousands of troops home with all bodily features in tact. (Sarcasm)
What, did you like when the US invaded Iraq over lies for oil and resulted in thousands of US soldiers dying and coming back missing limbs? You must have loved how the republican led congress then cut veterans benefits. (They take care of our veterans,right? While trump kept saying we don't take care of the veterans, did anyone ask whether the republican led house or senate had offered any legislation the past 6 years to help them? Oh yeah, they didn't.).
Well at least the rich will get more tax cuts again. That should help the deficit (which got smaller each of the past 8 years) and the debt which has exploded. Those fiscal conservatives will surely fix that via exploding deficits.
Give me a break.
President Obama is someone our country can be proud of.
Bush 43... There's a reason he and Cheney haven't left the US in 8 years. They can't. It's called war crimes they have been found guilty of. Fact

there simply is no reasonable argument for obama being a bad president. I keep seeing one or two talking points and that's it. the list of his accomplishments is far longer than his failures. and his failures were at least ATTEMPTS at making life better for the americans.

Yea I agree..no way he's a bad President. It's so funny all the hard core republicans I know always say.."Barry is a terrible President..BUT my 401k and other investments tripled under his presidency." The rich got richer and for that reason people will look back and say he was a good President..not me I already think he did about the best job he could.

mcgruff10

Back on topic, I really dislike this version of rocking. Waaaaaay too slow for me (and I like slow pj songs).

HughFreakingDillon

mcgruff10 said:

Back on topic, I really dislike this version of rocking. Waaaaaay too slow for me (and I like slow pj songs).

I dig it, but would dig it more without the choir.

mcgruff10

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

Back on topic, I really dislike this version of rocking. Waaaaaay too slow for me (and I like slow pj songs).

I dig it, but would dig it more without the choir.

Yeah I definitely don't like the choir.

Wma31394

mcgruff10 said:

Back on topic, I really dislike this version of rocking. Waaaaaay too slow for me (and I like slow pj songs).

Yea the intro was soooo slooooow..brutal. once it picked up it was decent but would rather not hear that rendition again..

PP193448

Wma31394 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

maverick said:

Joe118 said:

Love Ed but I have avoided watching any of this stuff. Obama is the second worst president of my lifetime (Carter) and it's just brutally awkward to watch any of the "celebration" of his candidacy.

Yeah, I agree. What was it only 70 plus months of positive job growth? US Auto industry saved and doing much better than before. Gas prices down, stock market steadily up for 8 years.
Oh yeah and he ended the Iraq war and brought thousands of troops home with all bodily features in tact. (Sarcasm)
What, did you like when the US invaded Iraq over lies for oil and resulted in thousands of US soldiers dying and coming back missing limbs? You must have loved how the republican led congress then cut veterans benefits. (They take care of our veterans,right? While trump kept saying we don't take care of the veterans, did anyone ask whether the republican led house or senate had offered any legislation the past 6 years to help them? Oh yeah, they didn't.).
Well at least the rich will get more tax cuts again. That should help the deficit (which got smaller each of the past 8 years) and the debt which has exploded. Those fiscal conservatives will surely fix that via exploding deficits.
Give me a break.
President Obama is someone our country can be proud of.
Bush 43... There's a reason he and Cheney haven't left the US in 8 years. They can't. It's called war crimes they have been found guilty of. Fact

there simply is no reasonable argument for obama being a bad president. I keep seeing one or two talking points and that's it. the list of his accomplishments is far longer than his failures. and his failures were at least ATTEMPTS at making life better for the americans.

Yea I agree..no way he's a bad President. It's so funny all the hard core republicans I know always say.."Barry is a terrible President..BUT my 401k and other investments tripled under his presidency." The rich got richer and for that reason people will look back and say he was a good President..not me I already think he did about the best job he could.

Please ask your friends which mutual funds their 401ks are in, and post later. Tripled in 8 years?? Damn...