Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,406
    benjs said:
    dignin said:
    CM189191 said:
    But her emails.

    Oh, what could have been.
    Yup. Imagine what all anti-trump people could have accomplished if they didn’t have to focus their energy on this guy.
    I guess us 'anti-Trumpers' just lack the ability to ignore buildings on fire. It's clear I should be ashamed and would be better off ignoring any circumstantial evidence leading me to come to reasonable conclusions because... some guy named cincybearcat on the Pearl Jam Forums suggested it. I subscribe to "where there's smoke, first ascertain who told you there's smoke, then check it out. If you still see smoke, there's probably fire". Hilary Clinton is far from a saint, but the level of corruption being readily ignored every single day is astonishing.

    Edit: And the suggestions to "just relax", and claim that this is relatively normal, is something that only someone in serious denial could state.
    Not sure what their was in that took take offense. There is a lot of energy spent every day on trump. I’ve been pretty clear that I think trump is awful. And if he wasn’t there we could be having much more productive conversations.

    seriously - look at all the energy that goes into trump. A lot of it valid, some of it craziness. 


    Please, identify the “crazy.”
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 7,301
    benjs said:
    dignin said:
    CM189191 said:
    But her emails.

    Oh, what could have been.
    Yup. Imagine what all anti-trump people could have accomplished if they didn’t have to focus their energy on this guy.
    I guess us 'anti-Trumpers' just lack the ability to ignore buildings on fire. It's clear I should be ashamed and would be better off ignoring any circumstantial evidence leading me to come to reasonable conclusions because... some guy named cincybearcat on the Pearl Jam Forums suggested it. I subscribe to "where there's smoke, first ascertain who told you there's smoke, then check it out. If you still see smoke, there's probably fire". Hilary Clinton is far from a saint, but the level of corruption being readily ignored every single day is astonishing.

    Edit: And the suggestions to "just relax", and claim that this is relatively normal, is something that only someone in serious denial could state.
    Not sure what their was in that took take offense. There is a lot of energy spent every day on trump. I’ve been pretty clear that I think trump is awful. And if he wasn’t there we could be having much more productive conversations.

    seriously - look at all the energy that goes into trump. A lot of it valid, some of it craziness. 


    My apologies, cincy, I misinterpreted. That being said, I think it's clear that even 'letting slide' abuse of power coming from a seat with so much of it is really not an option for many.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,256
    benjs said:
    benjs said:
    dignin said:
    CM189191 said:
    But her emails.

    Oh, what could have been.
    Yup. Imagine what all anti-trump people could have accomplished if they didn’t have to focus their energy on this guy.
    I guess us 'anti-Trumpers' just lack the ability to ignore buildings on fire. It's clear I should be ashamed and would be better off ignoring any circumstantial evidence leading me to come to reasonable conclusions because... some guy named cincybearcat on the Pearl Jam Forums suggested it. I subscribe to "where there's smoke, first ascertain who told you there's smoke, then check it out. If you still see smoke, there's probably fire". Hilary Clinton is far from a saint, but the level of corruption being readily ignored every single day is astonishing.

    Edit: And the suggestions to "just relax", and claim that this is relatively normal, is something that only someone in serious denial could state.
    Not sure what their was in that took take offense. There is a lot of energy spent every day on trump. I’ve been pretty clear that I think trump is awful. And if he wasn’t there we could be having much more productive conversations.

    seriously - look at all the energy that goes into trump. A lot of it valid, some of it craziness. 


    My apologies, cincy, I misinterpreted. That being said, I think it's clear that even 'letting slide' abuse of power coming from a seat with so much of it is really not an option for many.
    Yeah I really wasn’t taking about letting stuff slide. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,256
    edited January 15
    benjs said:
    dignin said:
    CM189191 said:
    But her emails.

    Oh, what could have been.
    Yup. Imagine what all anti-trump people could have accomplished if they didn’t have to focus their energy on this guy.
    I guess us 'anti-Trumpers' just lack the ability to ignore buildings on fire. It's clear I should be ashamed and would be better off ignoring any circumstantial evidence leading me to come to reasonable conclusions because... some guy named cincybearcat on the Pearl Jam Forums suggested it. I subscribe to "where there's smoke, first ascertain who told you there's smoke, then check it out. If you still see smoke, there's probably fire". Hilary Clinton is far from a saint, but the level of corruption being readily ignored every single day is astonishing.

    Edit: And the suggestions to "just relax", and claim that this is relatively normal, is something that only someone in serious denial could state.
    Not sure what their was in that took take offense. There is a lot of energy spent every day on trump. I’ve been pretty clear that I think trump is awful. And if he wasn’t there we could be having much more productive conversations.

    seriously - look at all the energy that goes into trump. A lot of it valid, some of it craziness. 


    Please, identify the “crazy.”
    Hmmm I honestly am not recalling right now. But I usually point it out when it happens and get called a trump supporter and all kinds of bad things. The stuff that people are only upset about because it’s trump. Vs all the other legit shit he has done or has not done (like hold Russia accountable for election meddling).

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,256
    Oh I remember some...the shit about his hair, his orange skin and toilet paper stuck to his shoe are a few.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,406
    Oh I remember some...the shit about his hair, his orange skin and toilet paper stuck to his shoe are a few.
    Irrelevant, like Obama’s ears.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,256
    Oh I remember some...the shit about his hair, his orange skin and toilet paper stuck to his shoe are a few.
    Irrelevant, like Obama’s ears.
    That’s exactly what I said
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,406
    Oh I remember some...the shit about his hair, his orange skin and toilet paper stuck to his shoe are a few.
    Irrelevant, like Obama’s ears.
    That’s exactly what I said
    No, you called it crazy.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,406
    Crazy or irrelevant?


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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,297
    Oh I remember some...the shit about his hair, his orange skin and toilet paper stuck to his shoe are a few.
    Irrelevant, like Obama’s ears.
    That’s exactly what I said

    Is it? Obama can't do anything about his ears. But had the self awareness to hole about it.

    Trump's orangeness & tp incident are self inflicted, and point towards a complete lack of self awareness. 

    Sure, they're little things, but it's an indication of character. See also : tan suit and Dijon mustard.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,256
    Oh I remember some...the shit about his hair, his orange skin and toilet paper stuck to his shoe are a few.
    Irrelevant, like Obama’s ears.
    That’s exactly what I said
    No, you called it crazy.
    It’s crazy to focus on. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 16,890
    Oh I remember some...the shit about his hair, his orange skin and toilet paper stuck to his shoe are a few.
    Irrelevant, like Obama’s ears.
    That’s exactly what I said
    No, you called it crazy.
    It’s crazy to focus on. 
    I'm with ya. cheapens the message. 
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    It's like the trash took itself out"
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,406
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 4,294
    You guys found a new home to argue Trump all, good for you.  lol
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,406
    More brilliantly brilliant disappearing headlines in all their brilliance and more fruit from the poisonous tree. Go Team Mueller!

    https://www.wired.com/story/what-robert-mueller-knows-and-isnt-saying-trump-russia-investigation/

    Nothing to hide, everything is on the up and up folks. Trust me.
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