A Perfect Circle working on new material, set to tour in 2017
Merkin Baller
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I was pretty psyched to read this morning that APC is working on new material, and plans to tour in 2017. http://www.tonedeaf.com.au/493469/perfect-circle-big-plans-2017.htm. I thought 2011 might be the last we would hear from this act.
This is about the best Maynard related news I could have hoped for, with the exception of an announcement for a new Tool album (keep holding my breath, right?). While I didn’t love the album of cover songs (it had its highlights), their 1st two albums, and their live shows are mind blowing.
I’m looking forward to hearing what new original material they release. ‘The 13th Step’ is a really dynamic album that I still listen to on a regular basis even now, 12 years or so after it came out. The live material they released more recently is equally impressive, the harmonies Keenan & Howerdel belt out are phenomenal, not to mention Josh Freese’s insane drum skills (while Freese is no longer with the band, Jeff Friedl is no slouch either – he played with them when I saw them in 2011, and is a more than adequate replacement)
So yeah…… this news has put me in a very good mood today.
This is about the best Maynard related news I could have hoped for, with the exception of an announcement for a new Tool album (keep holding my breath, right?). While I didn’t love the album of cover songs (it had its highlights), their 1st two albums, and their live shows are mind blowing.
I’m looking forward to hearing what new original material they release. ‘The 13th Step’ is a really dynamic album that I still listen to on a regular basis even now, 12 years or so after it came out. The live material they released more recently is equally impressive, the harmonies Keenan & Howerdel belt out are phenomenal, not to mention Josh Freese’s insane drum skills (while Freese is no longer with the band, Jeff Friedl is no slouch either – he played with them when I saw them in 2011, and is a more than adequate replacement)
So yeah…… this news has put me in a very good mood today.
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APC... Puscifer... come on, man. The band we care about is Tool. Every time people plug their noses and tolerate the 'side' stuff... Maynard thinks he's doing okay.
Don't get me wrong: there's a 'few' good songs, but these bands aren't even in the same hemisphere as Tool. If these bands didn't feature Maynard... I'd think they'd be completely irrelevant.
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12 -Vancouver,BC-Rogers Arena-5/4/24
would rather have a new tool album but will settle for this. Never seen them live before.
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
I agree, neither of these bands is as good as Tool, but that's a pretty high measuring stick you're holding them up to. At the end of the day how many bands DO compare to Tool? Not many. I also don't think Maynard's side projects or businesses are the reason Tool hasn't released any new music, but feel free to refute that or just disagree.
Sure, I could have the attitude that these bands suck because of who they aren't, but I would have deprived myself of some pretty awesome music. Both bands have released AT LEAST two solid albums each (Mer de Noms, 13th Step, Conditions of my Parole & Money Shot are all fantastic albums) and perform awesome live shows, worth every penny IMO.
I'm glad I kept an open mind & gave them a chance, I've been well rewarded.
I've seen Puscifer. Okay. Not fantastic by any stretch of the imagination IMO.
I never said Maynard wasn't doing okay. I just said he's involved in other things that keep him from the band. You've disputed this, but I'm not sure why? It's obviously true.
If you're excited about Maynard making a massive time commitment to APC after all the time he spent with Puscifer and thinking that elusive new Tool album is right around the corner... you're dreaming.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tool-explain-why-they-havent-put-out-a-new-album-since-2006-20140715
Recently Maynard did a lengthy interview w/ Yahoo; blabbermouth summarizes the interview here:
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/maynard-james-keenan-calls-tool-creative-process-tedious/
So, if Maynard's to be believed, he's waiting on the rest of the band, not the other way around.
I'm excited about Maynard's commitment to another musical project that I find very interesting and enjoyable (I'm doubly excited because I thought APC was over & done with). If you don't enjoy those bands, good for you...... music is subjective, I have no interest in trying to change your mind.
If you simply resent these projects because you think they are holding up Tool's new album, I think your resentment is misplaced.
And for the record, I'm not sure 'resent' is the most appropriate term to describe my sentiments. 'Honest' might be a better term. Puscifer is 'just okay' (at best) and APC is 'okay'. These bands' link to Tool has spawned their popularity. If these bands had come on to the scene without the popularity of Maynard to promote them... it is my feel they would be nothing spectacular at all.
I clearly missed it, can you copy & paste these quotes?
While he said that they have two albums' worth of material prepared, he added that only five of those songs meet the "TOOL standard" and that Keenan has yet to write or sing lyrics for anything.
Will that suffice? He's done nothing except spend his artistic time with sub rate bands (his prerogative of course).
Regardless, you're convinced the band is waiting on Maynard, and he's holding them up. Right?
According to his comments, he would prefer they work faster:
“If Tool was more prolific, if they were a little steadier, if we could get things done a little faster I would probably be happy. But things take a long time, they’re tedious. The other guys are very meticulous and I get bored. So I have to go do things in between. The perception, of course, if that they’re waiting on me. No, that’s not the case"
https://www.google.com/amp/www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/drama/maynard-james-keenan-says-tools-slow-creative-process-is-tedious-for-him/amp?client=safari
As I mentioned before, I could care less if you don't like his other bands, but this comment directly refutes the notion that the side projects are the cause of Tool's delay. In fact, Maynard claims the opposite, these projects are the result of the delay.
The Rolling Stone article also cites a massively complicated lawsuit and family commitments as affecting the creative process at least up to 2014, but let's ignore that. It's reasonable to believe that Maynard doesn't want Tool to release any new music, and he's only interested in making sub-par music.
Regardless, we can drop it. I brought a little rain to this parade. I should have stayed away and let APC fans rejoice without expressing my sentiments.
* Really really like Tool though.
We agree on Tool however, hands down they're one of my top three bands. Hopefully you & I are celebrating some good news about them here in a few months.
Peace man.
community.pearljam.com/discussion/254531/2017-pearl-jam-tour-rumor-thread#latest
I'm really hoping for a solo show, I don't know that I'll want to deal with a festival crowd to see them again.
Looks like Thursday is the presale, I saw a code of REBELAPC..... I'm hoping for some non festival dates in the NE.
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
April 10 Phoenix, AZ Comerica Theatre
April 11 San Diego, CA Open Air Theatre
April 13 San Francisco Bill Graham Civic
April 14 Reno, NV Reno Event Center
April 15 Salt Lake City Maverik Center
April 17 Denver, CO 1st Bank Center
April 19 Kansas City, MO Starlight Amphitheatre
April 20 St. Louis, MO Chafietz Arena
April 22 Tulsa, OK BOK Center
April 23 Grand Prairie, TX Verizon Theatre
April 25 Austin, TX HEB Center at Cedar Park
April 26 San Antonio, TX Freeman Coliseum
April 27 Houston, TX Smart Financial Center
April 29 Jacksonville, FL Welcome to Rockville
April 30 Ft. Myers, FL Fort Rock Festival
May 2 Atlanta, GA Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre
May 3 Nashville, TN Bridgestone Arena
May 5 Charlotte, NC Carolina Rebellion
May 7 Los Angeles, CA Hollywood Bowl
Tickets for all non-festival dates (or Hollywood Bowl which is already on-sale) on-sale this Friday, Jan. 13 at 10 am local time.
Jeez barely anything on the east coast
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Just announced in the last few days, another one of Maynard's projects will be coming to NYC the weekend of 6/3........ (cc: @Thirty Bills Unpaid )
https://www.governorsballmusicfestival.com/
I'm still not holding my breath for the new album, but it would be nice to see Tool in the Northeast again (it's 5 years since they played Boston)