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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Middle America and white deplorables have no idea who or what Pearl Jam is.Now if Nickleback or someone from Creed were to say something, that would make a splash.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    ^^^doesn't matter PJ has a mic and a voice. And a very powerful voice mind you. That's all it takes to get to a thin skinned coward.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    Unless EV is T. supporter? Please no!!!!!!!!!! I will burn all 500+ PJ cds I own if this is the case. However, I might still listen to them on Spotify.
  • vaggar99 said:

    Unless EV is T. supporter? Please no!!!!!!!!!! I will burn all 500+ PJ cds I own if this is the case. However, I might still listen to them on Spotify.

    LOL. now this made me laugh.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    ^^^oh yeah and the vinyl stays too
  • vaggar99 said:

    Unless EV is T. supporter? Please no!!!!!!!!!! I will burn all 500+ PJ cds I own if this is the case. However, I might still listen to them on Spotify.

    Before you do that, pm me. I'll burn them for you so you don't have to go through the emotional stress!
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  • j1kotwicj1kotwic Posts: 168
    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
  • j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
    Where is the proof he is a white nationalist? Where are the charges against Trump for being a sex offender. He admitted it to you?

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086

    j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
    Where is the proof he is a white nationalist? Where are the charges against Trump for being a sex offender. He admitted it to you?

    He admitted on open mics in more than one setting. It's tough to digest, I know.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    He didn't just admit it. He bragged about it.
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  • PP193448PP193448 Posts: 4,281
    edited November 2016
    Makes me wonder how many college guys could be labeled as Sex Predators out at the bars trying to hook up with different girl each night, then bragging about it the next day... or maybe this was just in the early 1990's when I was in college... wasn't me :who_me::nuh_uh:
    But I would guess that it was consensual...
    Post edited by PP193448 on
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    PP193448 said:

    Makes me wonder how many college guys could be labeled as Sex Predators out at the bars trying to hook up with different girl each night, then bragging about it the next day... or maybe this was just in the early 1990's when I was in college... wasn't me :who_me::nuh_uh:
    But I would guess that it was consensual...

    I remember when guys would make up stories. You know what, even the made up stories involved consent. Sex offenders who go without consequences start to normalize their behavior. He was bragging about what he does. Oh yeah, he was 60 at the time, which reinforces my point.
  • PP193448PP193448 Posts: 4,281

    PP193448 said:

    Makes me wonder how many college guys could be labeled as Sex Predators out at the bars trying to hook up with different girl each night, then bragging about it the next day... or maybe this was just in the early 1990's when I was in college... wasn't me :who_me::nuh_uh:
    But I would guess that it was consensual...

    I remember when guys would make up stories. You know what, even the made up stories involved consent. Sex offenders who go without consequences start to normalize their behavior. He was bragging about what he does. Oh yeah, he was 60 at the time, which reinforces my point.
    True. The beauty pageant girls probably have to know that they may be seen naked while having all those costume changes, right?? But bragging about seeing them is creepy and inappropriate. That would be like a female sports news reporter bragging about seeing football players stuff in the locker rooms during post game interviews... can you imagine how shunned the female reporter would be... unless she was talking about seeing Tom Brady's deflated balls, then that's common knowledge... :lol:
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Makes me wonder how many college guys could be labeled as Sex Predators out at the bars trying to hook up with different girl each night, then bragging about it the next day... or maybe this was just in the early 1990's when I was in college... wasn't me :who_me::nuh_uh:
    But I would guess that it was consensual...

    I remember when guys would make up stories. You know what, even the made up stories involved consent. Sex offenders who go without consequences start to normalize their behavior. He was bragging about what he does. Oh yeah, he was 60 at the time, which reinforces my point.
    True. The beauty pageant girls probably have to know that they may be seen naked while having all those costume changes, right?? But bragging about seeing them is creepy and inappropriate. That would be like a female sports news reporter bragging about seeing football players stuff in the locker rooms during post game interviews... can you imagine how shunned the female reporter would be... unless she was talking about seeing Tom Brady's deflated balls, then that's common knowledge... :lol:
    With the teen pagent, it's actually more like the male high school principal going into the girls locker room knowing that they'd be naked. I'm sure after word got out with that creep, that people would be considering him for president.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Again, the US is not a democracy.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427

    j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
    Where is the proof he is a white nationalist? Where are the charges against Trump for being a sex offender. He admitted it to you?

    He admitted on open mics in more than one setting. It's tough to digest, I know.
    Did he? I must have missed that
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    vaggar99 said:

    j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
    Where is the proof he is a white nationalist? Where are the charges against Trump for being a sex offender. He admitted it to you?

    He admitted on open mics in more than one setting. It's tough to digest, I know.
    Did he? I must have missed that
    That's sarcasm coming from you, right?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    unsung said:

    Again, the US is not a democracy.

    Can you just assume everyone isn't an idiot, and understands what system is being used in America? Everyone gets how much of a democracy America is - the term is just common usage, it doesn't mean we all think it's a pure democracy. We don't need you reminding us everyday.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427

    vaggar99 said:

    j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
    Where is the proof he is a white nationalist? Where are the charges against Trump for being a sex offender. He admitted it to you?

    He admitted on open mics in more than one setting. It's tough to digest, I know.
    Did he? I must have missed that
    That's sarcasm coming from you, right?
    no, i haven't been listening to boots over the last couple years much. I don't doubt he's said something, but judging the seeming majority ESP support here, I'm guessing the rhetoric was not well received.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited November 2016
    vaggar99 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
    Where is the proof he is a white nationalist? Where are the charges against Trump for being a sex offender. He admitted it to you?

    He admitted on open mics in more than one setting. It's tough to digest, I know.
    Did he? I must have missed that
    That's sarcasm coming from you, right?
    no, i haven't been listening to boots over the last couple years much. I don't doubt he's said something, but judging the seeming majority ESP support here, I'm guessing the rhetoric was not well received.
    :confused: Pretty sure Go Beavers was referring to Trump and how he admitted to being a sex offender on camera more than once.
    Also, there is not a majority of Trump supporters here. I'd actually be surprised if 10% of 10C members voted Trump. There is just a very tiny vocal minority talking about it here on the AMT.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    PJ_Soul said:

    vaggar99 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
    Where is the proof he is a white nationalist? Where are the charges against Trump for being a sex offender. He admitted it to you?

    He admitted on open mics in more than one setting. It's tough to digest, I know.
    Did he? I must have missed that
    That's sarcasm coming from you, right?
    no, i haven't been listening to boots over the last couple years much. I don't doubt he's said something, but judging the seeming majority ESP support here, I'm guessing the rhetoric was not well received.
    :confused: Pretty sure Go Beavers was referring to Trump and how he admitted to being a sex offender on camera more than once.
    sorry, that's what i get for trying to skim read
  • vaggar99 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    vaggar99 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
    Where is the proof he is a white nationalist? Where are the charges against Trump for being a sex offender. He admitted it to you?

    He admitted on open mics in more than one setting. It's tough to digest, I know.
    Did he? I must have missed that
    That's sarcasm coming from you, right?
    no, i haven't been listening to boots over the last couple years much. I don't doubt he's said something, but judging the seeming majority ESP support here, I'm guessing the rhetoric was not well received.
    :confused: Pretty sure Go Beavers was referring to Trump and how he admitted to being a sex offender on camera more than once.
    sorry, that's what i get for trying to skim read
    I read it a few times wondering what you meant by listening to boots. you thought he meant ED said that???
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    Yeah, I was talking about trump. That's why I got a bit confused.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427

    vaggar99 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    vaggar99 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
    Where is the proof he is a white nationalist? Where are the charges against Trump for being a sex offender. He admitted it to you?

    He admitted on open mics in more than one setting. It's tough to digest, I know.
    Did he? I must have missed that
    That's sarcasm coming from you, right?
    no, i haven't been listening to boots over the last couple years much. I don't doubt he's said something, but judging the seeming majority ESP support here, I'm guessing the rhetoric was not well received.
    :confused: Pretty sure Go Beavers was referring to Trump and how he admitted to being a sex offender on camera more than once.
    sorry, that's what i get for trying to skim read
    I read it a few times wondering what you meant by listening to boots. you thought he meant ED said that???
    yeah, cuz there was a post somewhere about Ed saying something at Fenway and quickly got dropped cuz the crowd seemed to react coldly to it.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    PJ_Soul said:

    vaggar99 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    j1kotwic said:

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia are now normalized? As if before the election all of those things were unacceptable but now it's okay because we will soon have a president Trump? Who declared this to be the truth? White supremacist stole our democracy? What percentage of the 62 million people who voted for Trump are White Supremacists? I can't believe there are so many people saying things like this.

    I do respect your opinion on this but I just think you have taken this way too far. I mean what a collasal leap to say those things.

    It was an awful election with two candidates no one liked or agreed with on every issue. You just need to come to terms with the fact that half of the country disagreed with you and thought Trump was a better option than Hillary... despite his many flaws. This doesn't mean that half of the country are racist, homophobics...etc.

    We have a white nationalist as trump's right hand man and people just decided that an admitted sex offender would make a good president. This is all normalized. We on the left are still trying to get out brains around it.
    Where is the proof he is a white nationalist? Where are the charges against Trump for being a sex offender. He admitted it to you?

    He admitted on open mics in more than one setting. It's tough to digest, I know.
    Did he? I must have missed that
    That's sarcasm coming from you, right?
    no, i haven't been listening to boots over the last couple years much. I don't doubt he's said something, but judging the seeming majority ESP support here, I'm guessing the rhetoric was not well received.
    :confused: Pretty sure Go Beavers was referring to Trump and how he admitted to being a sex offender on camera more than once.
    Also, there is not a majority of Trump supporters here. I'd actually be surprised if 10% of 10C members voted Trump. There is just a very tiny vocal minority talking about it here on the AMT.

    hahah..dont make start another poll!! I promise I wont...at least not that one
  • MG79478MG79478 Posts: 1,673
    vaggar99 said:


    You can insult me. That's cool. This is why we are where we are. Entitlement will be squashed.

    The fact that you took my attempt to help you as an insult should tell you something. As for the rest of your post, I'm ignoring it because quite frankly it's an emotional over reaction that is WAY out in left field.

    I see you did avoid replying about how deeply flawed Hillary was. That's cool.
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