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vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,020
    I don't necessarily disagree with you other than I don't think those things have been normalized. Most people I know don't think that way. If anything having Trump as president will keep these issues front and center and hopefully part of an ongoing dialogue. He just might inadvertently be a blessing in disguise.
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    ^^^ not sure where who you hang out with but they must be some nice people. Cuz, I can tell you it is real. There are some very nasty people amongst.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,020
    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^ not sure where who you hang out with but they must be some nice people. Cuz, I can tell you it is real. There are some very nasty people amongst.

    I don't don't your experience. Hopefully it motivates everyone to help make a real change.
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  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^ not sure where who you hang out with but they must be some nice people. Cuz, I can tell you it is real. There are some very nasty people amongst.

    Are you experiencing issues in San Diego? I'll be there in 20 days ....in my continuing search for a civilized society
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    edited November 2016
    ^^i actually don't live in San Diego anymore. I live in Houston, TX. But I can tell you SD is just as racist if not more. The east county suburbs are known for strong racial biases. Houston is a generally diverse city, but no shortage of racism here either.

    Its easy not hear/see these things because sometimes you really open your eyes and ears to them. Once you do, you'll realize ITS EVERYWHERE
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    vaggar99 said:

    ^^i actually don't live in San Diego anymore. I live in Houston, TX. But I can tell you SD is just as racist if not more. The east county suburbs are known for strong racial biases. Houston is a generally diverse city, but no shortage of racism here either.

    Its easy not hear/see these things because sometimes you really open your eyes and ears to them. Once you do, you'll realize ITS EVERYWHERE

    racism is everywhere before, during & after one Donald Trump. we can be the change we are looking for out there....
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    ^^^yes we can. unfortunately, that will only get so far. We need to also stand up to these bullies. We are the voice of common sense and decency. We will prevail.
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    vaggar99 said:

    ^^i actually don't live in San Diego anymore. I live in Houston, TX. But I can tell you SD is just as racist if not more. The east county suburbs are known for strong racial biases. Houston is a generally diverse city, but no shortage of racism here either.

    Its easy not hear/see these things because sometimes you really open your eyes and ears to them. Once you do, you'll realize ITS EVERYWHERE

    I'm in the burbs of Houston. Sucks about San Diego
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Neither of the two major candidates represented equality or decency. Taking the L either way.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    ^^^ perhaps, but only one represented blatant racism and misogyny.
  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,876
    vaggar99 said:

    I know there is another category for political talk, but the Porch by far is the most active one and I feel this issue is important enough to make an exception.

    I am deeply troubled by what's happening in the US. Racism, misogyny, homophobia and xenophobia are now normalized. We have let a fringe group of white supremacists steal our democracy.

    I am asking the band for you help. Please say something.

    What do you need the band for? This is silly
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  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,545
    It's time to move on folks.
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Foriginal Sin said:

    vaggar99 said:

    I know there is another category for political talk, but the Porch by far is the most active one and I feel this issue is important enough to make an exception.

    I am deeply troubled by what's happening in the US. Racism, misogyny, homophobia and xenophobia are now normalized. We have let a fringe group of white supremacists steal our democracy.

    I am asking the band for you help. Please say something.

    What do you need the band for? This is silly
    Second time in the past few minutes thinking/saying "no shit". These people have their own lives and priorities.

    They're not our fucking messiahs nor should their sleeves be tugged upon as if they are.

    As for "normalcy" as perceived in the OP, sure there's some of that. Has been. Always will be. Human nature.

    If that's being seen only now, you got some catching up to do. Not seeing the need for hand-wringing at this point though.
  • KC2917
    KC2917 Posts: 872
    I don't get it. What's a rock band supposed to do about it?
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    wow...cynical people here to. Its very easy. say something thats all i ask.
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Shut it down
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    wow...now i remember why PJ shows are so lame now. its not the music
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    vaggar99 said:

    wow...now i remember why PJ shows are so lame now. its not the music

    Did @DonaldJTrump tweet this? It sounds like him.
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,914
    vaggar99 said:

    wow...now i remember why PJ shows are so lame now. its not the music

    What the hell are you talking about????

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