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  • DavidD
    DavidD Posts: 2,564

    shut it down...

    Lol did someone hit a nerve buck lol
  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,061

    what I can't wrap my head around is how many in the US are totally ok with misogyny, xenophobia, racism and the shunning of science. And that people are fine with those qualities in their leader. And I think it's cynical and spiteful to want him anyway just to send a message to the political ruling class.

    IMO this vote was more about disliking Hillary, than liking Trump.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,939
    Then people are weird spiteful and vote against their best interests.
  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,061

    Then people are weird spiteful and vote against their best interests.

    That's just your opinion. There's millions of those.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,939
    edited November 2016
    There were other candidates on the ballot. People didn't need to vote for the racist yet still chose to (Its not like what he has said wasn't widely known) . I don't think it was a referendum about Hillary, its looking like shes gonna win the popular vote. I know she wasn't the greatest candidate, but I do think its more about people being OK with racism and misogyny because people could have voted for the other 2 candidates (both also outsiders) and still chose not to.
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  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    DavidD said:

    shut it down...

    Lol did someone hit a nerve buck lol
    no :) I just like to say "shut it down"
  • DavidD said:

    shut it down...

    Lol did someone hit a nerve buck lol
    no :) I just like to say "shut it down"
    Jon Taffer style!
  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,061
    Voting for a third party candidate is essentially the same as not voting. What is the point?

    I live in one of the states where Hillary won in a landslide and she was born here in Illinois. Yet even here, so many people that I know largely can't stand her. She's looked at as a bad person by a lot of people. She's looked at as in the pocket of wall street and foreign countries (you can thank Bernie for that). She's spent much of this campaign under criminal investigation.

    And people are tired of both the Clinton's and the Bush's. Those families need to go away. So yes, Trump is a poor candidate and probably a jerk. Pick your poison. What people should be mad at are the voters of both parties screwing up in the primaries and giving us these 2 terrible choices.
  • Eroom21
    Eroom21 Canada Posts: 109
    Something that always happens after an election is that the RIght says this is not our president, they say they will block the president and anything they try to do. It happened after both times Obama won, and people were saying this would happen if Hillary won. Basically Republicans want a Democratic president to fail, meaning they want America to fail. Yet, I never really hear Democrates say those things about a Rebuplican presidant.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,939
    I'll take the competent candidate despite questionable morals, over the candidate who is just a dick to people and has no experience. Everytime.

    But you are correct with the parties putting up poor choices.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,939
    I'd love for PJ to put out an album of all political bangers that brings real heat. But I don't know if they have it in them anymore. I hope they prove me wrong.
  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,061

    I'll take the competent candidate despite questionable morals, over the candidate who is just a dick to people and has no experience. Everytime.

    But you are correct with the parties putting up poor choices.

    Yeah and to each his own. Everyone has to make that choice.

    On another note - I see her concession speech is going to be at the New Yorker. That is where I stayed for 4 nights this past May when I went to see the 2 PJ shows at MSG!
  • droptheleash9
    droptheleash9 Posts: 1,468
    edited November 2016
    Eroom21 said:

    Something that always happens after an election is that the RIght says this is not our president, they say they will block the president and anything they try to do. It happened after both times Obama won, and people were saying this would happen if Hillary won. Basically Republicans want a Democratic president to fail, meaning they want America to fail. Yet, I never really hear Democrates say those things about a Rebuplican presidant.

    #NotMyPresident is trending on twitter pretty much everywhere so it's hard for you to make that argument. I think Savara hit the nail on the head - both parties messed up and gave us two terrible candidates and then it was a matter of which candidate people disliked less in many cases.

    As always, I appreciate the spirited debate but this thread needs to move to A Moving Train.
  • Eroom21
    Eroom21 Canada Posts: 109

    Eroom21 said:

    Something that always happens after an election is that the RIght says this is not our president, they say they will block the president and anything they try to do. It happened after both times Obama won, and people were saying this would happen if Hillary won. Basically Republicans want a Democratic president to fail, meaning they want America to fail. Yet, I never really hear Democrates say those things about a Rebuplican presidant.

    #NotMyPresident is trending on twitter pretty much everywhere so it's hard for you to make that argument. I think Savara hit the nail on the head - both parties messed up and gave us two terrible candidates and then it was a matter of which candidate people disliked less in many cases.

    As always, I appreciate the spirited debate but this thread needs to move to A Moving Train.
    That is just a knee jerk reaction. It is nothing like what happened after Obama, or what people were saying about a Hillary win. I haven't read anything about blocking Tump's Supreme Court nomination. Maybe things will change.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    Eroom21 said:

    Eroom21 said:

    Something that always happens after an election is that the RIght says this is not our president, they say they will block the president and anything they try to do. It happened after both times Obama won, and people were saying this would happen if Hillary won. Basically Republicans want a Democratic president to fail, meaning they want America to fail. Yet, I never really hear Democrates say those things about a Rebuplican presidant.

    #NotMyPresident is trending on twitter pretty much everywhere so it's hard for you to make that argument. I think Savara hit the nail on the head - both parties messed up and gave us two terrible candidates and then it was a matter of which candidate people disliked less in many cases.

    As always, I appreciate the spirited debate but this thread needs to move to A Moving Train.
    That is just a knee jerk reaction. It is nothing like what happened after Obama, or what people were saying about a Hillary win. I haven't read anything about blocking Tump's Supreme Court nomination. Maybe things will change.
    Nothing can be blocked for the most part. They have all the power again. They have the chance to show they will wield it responsibly and wisely.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs said:

    Eroom21 said:

    Eroom21 said:

    Something that always happens after an election is that the RIght says this is not our president, they say they will block the president and anything they try to do. It happened after both times Obama won, and people were saying this would happen if Hillary won. Basically Republicans want a Democratic president to fail, meaning they want America to fail. Yet, I never really hear Democrates say those things about a Rebuplican presidant.

    #NotMyPresident is trending on twitter pretty much everywhere so it's hard for you to make that argument. I think Savara hit the nail on the head - both parties messed up and gave us two terrible candidates and then it was a matter of which candidate people disliked less in many cases.

    As always, I appreciate the spirited debate but this thread needs to move to A Moving Train.
    That is just a knee jerk reaction. It is nothing like what happened after Obama, or what people were saying about a Hillary win. I haven't read anything about blocking Tump's Supreme Court nomination. Maybe things will change.
    Nothing can be blocked for the most part. They have all the power again. They have the chance to show they will wield it responsibly and wisely.
    ...or not!

  • MF658872
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    If we get Riot Act 2, Trump will probably file a lawsuit against them.
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  • IMO this vote was more about disliking Hillary, than liking Trump.

    Agreed!
    It seems as if many people's comments are indicating that the candidate in blue is/was the answer to this country's current challenges - really?! Wow!
    You know who can better this country? You and me!

    PJ - thanks for your wonderful music, and for allowing us to share our views as a community!
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  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,410
    Back to the topic!

    At least we'll get "Trump-leager"
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