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  • BC62528BC62528 Posts: 222
    Welcome back Angry Eddie - I missed you. Looks like Florida, Ohio and Penn are guaranteed stops in 2020 - lol.
  • I got to sing with Pearl Jan before WW3 happened. ( keep it going)

    I was there..you were good!
  • DavidDDavidD Posts: 2,482

    DavidD said:

    shut it down...

    Lol did someone hit a nerve buck lol
    no :) I just like to say "shut it down"
    Lol, well then.... shut it down!!!!
    I'm at work today (I'm a plumber) doing a service call and told the guy I need to SHUT IT DOWN!!! ( the washrooms of course ). I'm going to see how many times I can say "SHUT IT DOWN" today.
    It's the little thing in life :)
  • mwplummwplum Posts: 1,531
    Sarava said:

    I'll take the competent candidate despite questionable morals, over the candidate who is just a dick to people and has no experience. Everytime.

    But you are correct with the parties putting up poor choices.

    Yeah and to each his own. Everyone has to make that choice.

    On another note - I see her concession speech is going to be at the New Yorker. That is where I stayed for 4 nights this past May when I went to see the 2 PJ shows at MSG!
    Me too! What a fitting venue, that place is a p.o.s.!

    It was in a great location for MSG, but man I paid $250 USD ($300+ canadian) for a decrepit shoebox of a room! And on top of that the charged an additional $15/day "resort fee" (and didn't even have good amenities). Once we got to Quebec City, we spent half that amount, stayed in the historic Chateau Frontenac, with a room 4 times bigger, and with beautiful views over the St. Lawrence River. I get that it's New York, but surely there must be more elegant hotels for Sec. Clinton?
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  • wall232 said:

    nicknyr15 said:

    I see this as more as a revolt, I am not a Trump supporter or a Hilary supporter but this election was a revolt against politicians. Its a game changer and no matter how we all feel, we must hope he does well. To root against him is to root against our country.

    He's gonna stop any effort "your country" has done towards the battle against climate change. What is there to root for?

    He's against the world as a whole. Rooting for him is being an asshole.
    No one can say or knows what he will do.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,738
    tbergs said:

    tbergs said:

    We'll get Riot Act 2: WTF

    I was hoping we'd get that no matter who won
    We'll get a vote for change tour in 2020 for sure.
    beat me to it
  • Mike D88Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 724

    what I can't wrap my head around is how many in the US are totally ok with misogyny, xenophobia, racism and the shunning of science. And that people are fine with those qualities in their leader. And I think it's cynical and spiteful to want him anyway just to send a message to the political ruling class.

    It's not hard to work out. Those are the destructive values America actually stands for.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,226
    I know it's easy to be cynical today, I've gone down that road a couple times, but it's really not what it stands for.
  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    DavidD said:

    DavidD said:

    shut it down...

    Lol did someone hit a nerve buck lol
    no :) I just like to say "shut it down"
    Lol, well then.... shut it down!!!!
    I'm at work today (I'm a plumber) doing a service call and told the guy I need to SHUT IT DOWN!!! ( the washrooms of course ). I'm going to see how many times I can say "SHUT IT DOWN" today.
    It's the little thing in life :)
    Fun, right?
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,394
    mwplum said:

    Sarava said:

    I'll take the competent candidate despite questionable morals, over the candidate who is just a dick to people and has no experience. Everytime.

    But you are correct with the parties putting up poor choices.

    Yeah and to each his own. Everyone has to make that choice.

    On another note - I see her concession speech is going to be at the New Yorker. That is where I stayed for 4 nights this past May when I went to see the 2 PJ shows at MSG!
    Me too! What a fitting venue, that place is a p.o.s.!

    It was in a great location for MSG, but man I paid $250 USD ($300+ canadian) for a decrepit shoebox of a room! And on top of that the charged an additional $15/day "resort fee" (and didn't even have good amenities). Once we got to Quebec City, we spent half that amount, stayed in the historic Chateau Frontenac, with a room 4 times bigger, and with beautiful views over the St. Lawrence River. I get that it's New York, but surely there must be more elegant hotels for Sec. Clinton?
    Oof, you could have definitely done better hotel wise. Or airbnd!
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,325
    Sarava said:

    Voting for a third party candidate is essentially the same as not voting. What is the point?

    I live in one of the states where Hillary won in a landslide and she was born here in Illinois. Yet even here, so many people that I know largely can't stand her. She's looked at as a bad person by a lot of people. She's looked at as in the pocket of wall street and foreign countries (you can thank Bernie for that). She's spent much of this campaign under criminal investigation.

    And people are tired of both the Clinton's and the Bush's. Those families need to go away. So yes, Trump is a poor candidate and probably a jerk. Pick your poison. What people should be mad at are the voters of both parties screwing up in the primaries and giving us these 2 terrible choices.

    You are incorrect about third party voting. Seems like the two partition system has you brainwashed. Vote for who you believe in- no matter which party they represent.
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  • Ladies and gentlemen. Let me give as a European a good advice....

    Keep calm and listen to pearl jam..
  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195

    Ladies and gentlemen. Let me give as a European a good advice....

    Keep calm and listen to pearl jam..

    thanks, but I don't think PJ can fix this shit show.

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  • HawkeyeJamHawkeyeJam Posts: 209
    edited November 2016
    I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

    Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

    She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

    Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

    I'm concerned about Trump but also hopeful. We knew what we get with hillary but Trump is at least an unknown. His victory speech speaked of infrastructure and the abolishment of the ridiculously bad Obamacare. The rhetoric of his speech was promising. A businessman as opposed to a politician running the country is intriguing. It's America's job now to make sure he was just pandering to a base with his remarks. I'm hopeful because America just gave the middle finger to big politics. Let's see if it works
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  • I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

    Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

    She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

    Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

    I'm concerned about Trump but also hopeful. We knew what we get with hillary but Trump is at least an unknown. His victory speech speaked of infrastructure and the abolishment of the ridiculously bad Obamacare. The rhetoric of his speech was promising. A businessman as opposed to a politician running the country is intriguing. It's America's job now to make sure he was just pandering to a base with his remarks. I'm hopeful because America just gave the middle finger to big politics. Let's see if it works

    Well spoken.
  • NoloadNoload Monticello, Georgia Posts: 1,634

    I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

    Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

    She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

    Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

    I'm concerned about Trump but also hopeful. We knew what we get with hillary but Trump is at least an unknown. His victory speech speaked of infrastructure and the abolishment of the ridiculously bad Obamacare. The rhetoric of his speech was promising. A businessman as opposed to a politician running the country is intriguing. It's America's job now to make sure he was just pandering to a base with his remarks. I'm hopeful because America just gave the middle finger to big politics. Let's see if it works

    All of that..
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  • AceCoolAceCool Texas Posts: 455

    I got to sing with Pearl Jan before WW3 happened. ( keep it going)

    Is Pearl Jan an all female PJ tribute band?
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,226

    I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

    Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

    She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

    Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.


    Just to be clear, his racism and misogyny as well as assault accusations are not as bad as her establishment position and lapses in good judgement?
  • lbpeltzlbpeltz Posts: 110
    lolobugg said:

    what I can't wrap my head around is how many in the US are totally ok with misogyny, xenophobia, racism and the shunning of science. And that people are fine with those qualities in their leader. And I think it's cynical and spiteful to want him anyway just to send a message to the political ruling class.

    baffles the mind......
    this country isn't the place I thought it was.....
    A majority of people are just sick of any conversation about race being classified as racist and any real conversation about religious differences, xenophobic. I wish to all things holy that the gop would wheel out a candidate who was pro choice and pro lgbt but still opperated with solid republican economic principles. Unfortunately, that won't happen anytime soon because this candidate wouldn't stand a chance in the primary.

    This country just stood up and said that we're tired of political correctness, sick of giving away entitlement benefits and that we are ready for a change... any change. I couldn't in good conscience vote for Trump, but I don't blame the people who did.
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,394

    I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate.

    There is more to the ballot than just the President. Not an excuse to stay home. You could have obtained from or written in president and still voted for senators, judges, questions, etc. It's disappointing when people forget about the rest of the ballot.
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  • DM282158DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 559

    I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

    Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

    She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

    Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

    I'm concerned about Trump but also hopeful. We knew what we get with hillary but Trump is at least an unknown. His victory speech speaked of infrastructure and the abolishment of the ridiculously bad Obamacare. The rhetoric of his speech was promising. A businessman as opposed to a politician running the country is intriguing. It's America's job now to make sure he was just pandering to a base with his remarks. I'm hopeful because America just gave the middle finger to big politics. Let's see if it works

    Beautifully stated. Let's face it - it will be better for everyone if Trump does a good job, on all of our behalves. (I'd say the same for Clinton if she had won.)

    Let's see what happens, and hold him accountable to his words and actions.
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  • I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

    Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

    She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

    Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.


    Just to be clear, his racism and misogyny as well as assault accusations are not as bad as her establishment position and lapses in good judgement?
    Not at all. More along the lines of ones faults doesn't dissolve the others. I'm fully aware they both were poor candidates. I had no horse in this race. I abstained from voting due to lack of desire for either. I just am willing to give him an opportunity to prove people wrong. I'm for a better America and if thats to happen it will have to be with him.

    Very interesting social experiment. People were eager for a true outsider and finally get to see it. People have clamored for a government to push domestic infrastructure as well. Maybe this works? It's worth a shot.


    John F Kennedy was one of the biggest misogynists in the history of American politics and he is beloved. I can look past them if Trump can move grow from it.
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    It's about time something went right for white males. :weary:
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,226
    DM282158 said:

    I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

    Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

    She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

    Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

    I'm concerned about Trump but also hopeful. We knew what we get with hillary but Trump is at least an unknown. His victory speech speaked of infrastructure and the abolishment of the ridiculously bad Obamacare. The rhetoric of his speech was promising. A businessman as opposed to a politician running the country is intriguing. It's America's job now to make sure he was just pandering to a base with his remarks. I'm hopeful because America just gave the middle finger to big politics. Let's see if it works

    Beautifully stated. Let's face it - it will be better for everyone if Trump does a good job, on all of our behalves. (I'd say the same for Clinton if she had won.)

    Let's see what happens, and hold him accountable to his words and actions.
    And I'm fine with that and will give him the shot. But it would be a lot fucking easier if he wasn't empowering people who are just mean and nasty who threaten violence.

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,226
    edited November 2016
    But make no mistake, when people say they are tired of "political correctness", what they are really saying is they are tired of having to be courteous, respectful and kind.
  • I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate.

    There is more to the ballot than just the President. Not an excuse to stay home. You could have obtained from or written in president and still voted for senators, judges, questions, etc. It's disappointing when people forget about the rest of the ballot.
    Most of what was on our ballot for Linn County were foregone conclusions and not necessarily great choices. Iowa went heavy Red this year. I usually do vote
  • DM282158DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 559

    DM282158 said:

    I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

    Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

    She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

    Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

    I'm concerned about Trump but also hopeful. We knew what we get with hillary but Trump is at least an unknown. His victory speech speaked of infrastructure and the abolishment of the ridiculously bad Obamacare. The rhetoric of his speech was promising. A businessman as opposed to a politician running the country is intriguing. It's America's job now to make sure he was just pandering to a base with his remarks. I'm hopeful because America just gave the middle finger to big politics. Let's see if it works

    Beautifully stated. Let's face it - it will be better for everyone if Trump does a good job, on all of our behalves. (I'd say the same for Clinton if she had won.)

    Let's see what happens, and hold him accountable to his words and actions.
    And I'm fine with that and will give him the shot. But it would be a lot fucking easier if he wasn't empowering people who are just mean and nasty who threaten violence.

    His flaws are endless, no doubt. And we shall hold him accountable for them.

    I'm simply echoing what his opponent said today: "We owe Donald Trump an open mind and a chance to lead. "
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  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,702

    I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

    Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

    She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

    Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

    I'm concerned about Trump but also hopeful. We knew what we get with hillary but Trump is at least an unknown. His victory speech speaked of infrastructure and the abolishment of the ridiculously bad Obamacare. The rhetoric of his speech was promising. A businessman as opposed to a politician running the country is intriguing. It's America's job now to make sure he was just pandering to a base with his remarks. I'm hopeful because America just gave the middle finger to big politics. Let's see if it works

    Good post
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,969
    Sarava said:

    what I can't wrap my head around is how many in the US are totally ok with misogyny, xenophobia, racism and the shunning of science. And that people are fine with those qualities in their leader. And I think it's cynical and spiteful to want him anyway just to send a message to the political ruling class.

    IMO this vote was more about disliking Hillary, than liking Trump.
    Still the winner is all of the above you can't deny that !
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,991
    nicknyr15 said:

    100 Pacer said:

    Eddie might move to Australia Canada.....

    Fixed.
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