OK well at least...

BC62528

Welcome back Angry Eddie - I missed you. Looks like Florida, Ohio and Penn are guaranteed stops in 2020 - lol.

TheBeardedFellow

wecrazybob said:

I got to sing with Pearl Jan before WW3 happened. ( keep it going)

I was there..you were good!

DavidD

buck502000 said:

DavidD said:

buck502000 said:

buck502000 said:

shut it down...

Lol did someone hit a nerve buck lol

no I just like to say "shut it down"

Lol, well then.... shut it down!!!!
I'm at work today (I'm a plumber) doing a service call and told the guy I need to SHUT IT DOWN!!! ( the washrooms of course ). I'm going to see how many times I can say "SHUT IT DOWN" today.
It's the little thing in life

mwplum

Sarava said:

Tim Simmons said:

I'll take the competent candidate despite questionable morals, over the candidate who is just a dick to people and has no experience. Everytime.

But you are correct with the parties putting up poor choices.

Yeah and to each his own. Everyone has to make that choice.

On another note - I see her concession speech is going to be at the New Yorker. That is where I stayed for 4 nights this past May when I went to see the 2 PJ shows at MSG!

Me too! What a fitting venue, that place is a p.o.s.!

It was in a great location for MSG, but man I paid $250 USD ($300+ canadian) for a decrepit shoebox of a room! And on top of that the charged an additional $15/day "resort fee" (and didn't even have good amenities). Once we got to Quebec City, we spent half that amount, stayed in the historic Chateau Frontenac, with a room 4 times bigger, and with beautiful views over the St. Lawrence River. I get that it's New York, but surely there must be more elegant hotels for Sec. Clinton?

Spiritual_Chaos

wall232 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

I see this as more as a revolt, I am not a Trump supporter or a Hilary supporter but this election was a revolt against politicians. Its a game changer and no matter how we all feel, we must hope he does well. To root against him is to root against our country.

He's gonna stop any effort "your country" has done towards the battle against climate change. What is there to root for?

He's against the world as a whole. Rooting for him is being an asshole.

No one can say or knows what he will do.

SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure.

MayDay10

tbergs said:

cp3iverson said:

tbergs said:

We'll get Riot Act 2: WTF

I was hoping we'd get that no matter who won

We'll get a vote for change tour in 2020 for sure.

beat me to it

Mike D88

Tim Simmons said:

what I can't wrap my head around is how many in the US are totally ok with misogyny, xenophobia, racism and the shunning of science. And that people are fine with those qualities in their leader. And I think it's cynical and spiteful to want him anyway just to send a message to the political ruling class.

It's not hard to work out. Those are the destructive values America actually stands for.

Tim Simmons

I know it's easy to be cynical today, I've gone down that road a couple times, but it's really not what it stands for.

buck502000

DavidD said:

buck502000 said:

DavidD said:

buck502000 said:

buck502000 said:

shut it down...

Lol did someone hit a nerve buck lol

no I just like to say "shut it down"

Lol, well then.... shut it down!!!!
I'm at work today (I'm a plumber) doing a service call and told the guy I need to SHUT IT DOWN!!! ( the washrooms of course ). I'm going to see how many times I can say "SHUT IT DOWN" today.
It's the little thing in life

Fun, right?

OceansJenny

mwplum said:

Sarava said:

Tim Simmons said:

I'll take the competent candidate despite questionable morals, over the candidate who is just a dick to people and has no experience. Everytime.

But you are correct with the parties putting up poor choices.

Yeah and to each his own. Everyone has to make that choice.

On another note - I see her concession speech is going to be at the New Yorker. That is where I stayed for 4 nights this past May when I went to see the 2 PJ shows at MSG!

Me too! What a fitting venue, that place is a p.o.s.!

It was in a great location for MSG, but man I paid $250 USD ($300+ canadian) for a decrepit shoebox of a room! And on top of that the charged an additional $15/day "resort fee" (and didn't even have good amenities). Once we got to Quebec City, we spent half that amount, stayed in the historic Chateau Frontenac, with a room 4 times bigger, and with beautiful views over the St. Lawrence River. I get that it's New York, but surely there must be more elegant hotels for Sec. Clinton?

Oof, you could have definitely done better hotel wise. Or airbnd!

SVRDhand13

Sarava said:

Voting for a third party candidate is essentially the same as not voting. What is the point?

I live in one of the states where Hillary won in a landslide and she was born here in Illinois. Yet even here, so many people that I know largely can't stand her. She's looked at as a bad person by a lot of people. She's looked at as in the pocket of wall street and foreign countries (you can thank Bernie for that). She's spent much of this campaign under criminal investigation.

And people are tired of both the Clinton's and the Bush's. Those families need to go away. So yes, Trump is a poor candidate and probably a jerk. Pick your poison. What people should be mad at are the voters of both parties screwing up in the primaries and giving us these 2 terrible choices.

You are incorrect about third party voting. Seems like the two partition system has you brainwashed. Vote for who you believe in- no matter which party they represent.

arnhem1976

Ladies and gentlemen. Let me give as a European a good advice....

Keep calm and listen to pearl jam..

lolobugg

arnhem1976 said:

Ladies and gentlemen. Let me give as a European a good advice....

Keep calm and listen to pearl jam..

thanks, but I don't think PJ can fix this shit show.

HawkeyeJam

I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

I'm concerned about Trump but also hopeful. We knew what we get with hillary but Trump is at least an unknown. His victory speech speaked of infrastructure and the abolishment of the ridiculously bad Obamacare. The rhetoric of his speech was promising. A businessman as opposed to a politician running the country is intriguing. It's America's job now to make sure he was just pandering to a base with his remarks. I'm hopeful because America just gave the middle finger to big politics. Let's see if it works

arnhem1976

HawkeyeJam said:

I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

I'm concerned about Trump but also hopeful. We knew what we get with hillary but Trump is at least an unknown. His victory speech speaked of infrastructure and the abolishment of the ridiculously bad Obamacare. The rhetoric of his speech was promising. A businessman as opposed to a politician running the country is intriguing. It's America's job now to make sure he was just pandering to a base with his remarks. I'm hopeful because America just gave the middle finger to big politics. Let's see if it works

Well spoken.

Noload

HawkeyeJam said:

I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

I'm concerned about Trump but also hopeful. We knew what we get with hillary but Trump is at least an unknown. His victory speech speaked of infrastructure and the abolishment of the ridiculously bad Obamacare. The rhetoric of his speech was promising. A businessman as opposed to a politician running the country is intriguing. It's America's job now to make sure he was just pandering to a base with his remarks. I'm hopeful because America just gave the middle finger to big politics. Let's see if it works

All of that..

AceCool

wecrazybob said:

I got to sing with Pearl Jan before WW3 happened. ( keep it going)

Is Pearl Jan an all female PJ tribute band?

Tim Simmons

HawkeyeJam said:

I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate

Sad truth is people were jaded to look past Hillary's indiscretions due to hate of Trump

She is a career politician who has made millions off our political system. She was a board of director member for Walmart. The Clinton Foundation is a sham to filter money. She bought a house in a state she has never lived in to run for office. She committed election fraud and colluded with the DNC to rig a nomination. She endangered national security numerous times and remained in a marriage for political gain. She is what is wrong with America's political system. The Clintons are no different than the Bush's.

Some may have voted for Trump due to racism and xenophobia. Most did because they are the working class that has been ignored since the 70s. It's no surprise that Wisconsin, Ohio,PA all went for Trump. He was the only voice they have had for years.

Just to be clear, his racism and misogyny as well as assault accusations are not as bad as her establishment position and lapses in good judgement?

lbpeltz

lolobugg said:

Tim Simmons said:

what I can't wrap my head around is how many in the US are totally ok with misogyny, xenophobia, racism and the shunning of science. And that people are fine with those qualities in their leader. And I think it's cynical and spiteful to want him anyway just to send a message to the political ruling class.

baffles the mind......
this country isn't the place I thought it was.....

A majority of people are just sick of any conversation about race being classified as racist and any real conversation about religious differences, xenophobic. I wish to all things holy that the gop would wheel out a candidate who was pro choice and pro lgbt but still opperated with solid republican economic principles. Unfortunately, that won't happen anytime soon because this candidate wouldn't stand a chance in the primary.

This country just stood up and said that we're tired of political correctness, sick of giving away entitlement benefits and that we are ready for a change... any change. I couldn't in good conscience vote for Trump, but I don't blame the people who did.

OceansJenny

HawkeyeJam said:

I did not vote. I wouldnt pit my name on either candidate.

There is more to the ballot than just the President. Not an excuse to stay home. You could have obtained from or written in president and still voted for senators, judges, questions, etc. It's disappointing when people forget about the rest of the ballot.