Running over protestors

unsung

http://urbanleak.com/truck-runs-over-columbus-day-protesters/

Seriously, go ahead and protest your cause. But why do they block traffic? These people just want to go about their day and get home. Then threaten the driver and call the cops that they hate so much.

JC29856

This land is your land This land is my land
From California to the New York island;
From the red wood forest to the Gulf Stream waters
This land was made for you and Me.

As I was walking that ribbon of highway,
I saw above me that endless skyway:
I saw below me that golden valley:
This land was made for you and me.

I've roamed and rambled and I followed my footsteps
To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts;
And all around me a voice was sounding:
This land was made for you and me.

When the sun came shining, and I was strolling,
And the wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling,
As the fog was lifting a voice was chanting:
This land was made for you and me.

As I went walking I saw a sign there
And on the sign it said "No Trespassing."
But on the other side it didn't say nothing,
That side was made for you and me.

In the shadow of the steeple I saw my people,
By the relief office I seen my people;
As they stood there hungry, I stood there asking
Is this land made for you and me?

Nobody living can ever stop me,
As I go walking that freedom highway;
Nobody living can ever make me turn back
This land was made for you and me.

fife

unsung said:

http://urbanleak.com/truck-runs-over-columbus-day-protesters/

Seriously, go ahead and protest your cause. But why do they block traffic? These people just want to go about their day and get home. Then threaten the driver and call the cops that they hate so much.

first thing: the reason they block traffic is cause they are trying to cause a disruption. it is called a protest. protests are supposed to upset people.

2nd thing, i agree with you that they should not threaten the driver.

3rd thing, they don't hate all cops, they hate the cops who shoot unarmed people. there is a difference

fife

and one last point, why don't you mention the person, who ran over people?

pjalive21

stand on the highway, get run over...period...i have a job to get to or other responsibilities..they are other ways to get your voice heard...disrupting people getting to work or for other emergency services you immediately lose any apathy to your cause...even if it is a legit one

Halifax2TheMax

How does one get their voice heard in a corrupt machine?

Godfather.

standard army Jeep and a 50.cal mounted .......great freeway crowd control. LOL !

Godfather.

Godfather.

fife said:

unsung said:

http://urbanleak.com/truck-runs-over-columbus-day-protesters/

Seriously, go ahead and protest your cause. But why do they block traffic? These people just want to go about their day and get home. Then threaten the driver and call the cops that they hate so much.

first thing: the reason they block traffic is cause they are trying to cause a disruption. it is called a protest. protests are supposed to upset people.

2nd thing, i agree with you that they should not threaten the driver.

3rd thing, they don't hate all cops, they hate the cops who shoot unarmed people. there is a difference

# 3.. they block roads and burn down stores and loot screaming "kill all white people" but they only hate cops who shoot unarmed people ? sounds like an intelligent bunch.

Godfather.

benjs

Godfather. said:

fife said:

unsung said:

http://urbanleak.com/truck-runs-over-columbus-day-protesters/

Seriously, go ahead and protest your cause. But why do they block traffic? These people just want to go about their day and get home. Then threaten the driver and call the cops that they hate so much.

first thing: the reason they block traffic is cause they are trying to cause a disruption. it is called a protest. protests are supposed to upset people.

2nd thing, i agree with you that they should not threaten the driver.

3rd thing, they don't hate all cops, they hate the cops who shoot unarmed people. there is a difference

# 3.. they block roads and burn down stores and loot screaming "kill all white people" but they only hate cops who shoot unarmed people ? sounds like an intelligent bunch.

Godfather.

As usual, the concept that a loud and extreme few could potentially misrepresent a more moderate and respectful movement or populace is nuance that seems to be beyond your ability to grasp.

benjs

pjalive21 said:

stand on the highway, get run over...period...i have a job to get to or other responsibilities..they are other ways to get your voice heard...disrupting people getting to work or for other emergency services you immediately lose any apathy to your cause...even if it is a legit one

Regarding your first statement - let's see how much empathy the law provides you with when you opt not to be late for work. I do agree with you about the efficacy of this approach, however (except I think you meant that you lose empathy and produce apathy). That being said, protesters are only protesters because those with the power to bring change have usually already addressed the cause with pure apathy - hence the need to protest. It's a Catch 22.

Godfather.

benjs said:

Godfather. said:

fife said:

unsung said:

http://urbanleak.com/truck-runs-over-columbus-day-protesters/

Seriously, go ahead and protest your cause. But why do they block traffic? These people just want to go about their day and get home. Then threaten the driver and call the cops that they hate so much.

first thing: the reason they block traffic is cause they are trying to cause a disruption. it is called a protest. protests are supposed to upset people.

2nd thing, i agree with you that they should not threaten the driver.

3rd thing, they don't hate all cops, they hate the cops who shoot unarmed people. there is a difference

# 3.. they block roads and burn down stores and loot screaming "kill all white people" but they only hate cops who shoot unarmed people ? sounds like an intelligent bunch.

Godfather.

As usual, the concept that a loud and extreme few could potentially misrepresent a more moderate and respectful movement or populace is nuance that seems to be beyond your ability to grasp.

okie dokie then....... just a few ??? misrepresent ? maybe that Sharpton fella could set things straight for us.

Godfather.

Go Beavers

pjalive21 said:

stand on the highway, get run over...period...i have a job to get to or other responsibilities..they are other ways to get your voice heard...disrupting people getting to work or for other emergency services you immediately lose any apathy to your cause...even if it is a legit one

So it's justified to kill people who block traffic? Makes sense. Being on time is important!

PJPOWER

benjs said:

pjalive21 said:

stand on the highway, get run over...period...i have a job to get to or other responsibilities..they are other ways to get your voice heard...disrupting people getting to work or for other emergency services you immediately lose any apathy to your cause...even if it is a legit one

Regarding your first statement - let's see how much empathy the law provides you with when you opt not to be late for work. I do agree with you about the efficacy of this approach, however (except I think you meant that you lose empathy and produce apathy). That being said, protesters are only protesters because those with the power to bring change have usually already addressed the cause with pure apathy - hence the need to protest. It's a Catch 22.

Standing in the freeway is not legal protesting. There have been accounts of them blocking ambulances, beating on vehicles, etc... they are begging to get run over! They are asshats.

Go Beavers

There should be a master list of types of acceptable protests.

PJPOWER

Go Beavers said:

There should be a master list of types of acceptable protests.

Maybe so, a "Protesting for Dummies" of some sorts. Some of these groups have been shown to be violent. If they are congregating and beating on your car or if you are dealing with a medical emergency, then by all means, drive right through these illegal blockades. If you don't want to get run over, stop playing in the damn street.

unsung

Halifax2TheMax said:

How does one get their voice heard in a corrupt machine?

Well, we know you can't stay at a wildlife refuge in the middle of nowhere where you aren't threatening anyone or destroying property.

unsung

Halifax2TheMax said:

How does one get their voice heard in a corrupt machine?

But anyway I know the answer, can you handle it?

unsung

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

stand on the highway, get run over...period...i have a job to get to or other responsibilities..they are other ways to get your voice heard...disrupting people getting to work or for other emergency services you immediately lose any apathy to your cause...even if it is a legit one

So it's justified to kill people who block traffic? Makes sense. Being on time is important!

What if they start banging on your car and cracking windows? Then what?

hedonist

It's a risk taken. I can't see (or hope I wouldn't see) a protester being intentionally run over but given certain conditions, the door is open for some really bad accidents and loss of life - property too.

PJPOWER

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

stand on the highway, get run over...period...i have a job to get to or other responsibilities..they are other ways to get your voice heard...disrupting people getting to work or for other emergency services you immediately lose any apathy to your cause...even if it is a legit one

So it's justified to kill people who block traffic? Makes sense. Being on time is important!

Running through an illegal blockade is perfectly justified if your passenger is having a heart attack or if you feel your life or property are in jeopardy. Are you saying that it is justified to block access to hospitals and cause property damage because you are angry?

Halifax2TheMax

unsung said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

How does one get their voice heard in a corrupt machine?

But anyway I know the answer, can you handle it?

Oh please, enlighten me with your upbeat myopic view.

Bentleyspop

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

stand on the highway, get run over...period...i have a job to get to or other responsibilities..they are other ways to get your voice heard...disrupting people getting to work or for other emergency services you immediately lose any apathy to your cause...even if it is a legit one

So it's justified to kill people who block traffic? Makes sense. Being on time is important!

What if they start banging on your car and cracking windows? Then what?

That's rasy....

They bang on my car I kill them
If they crack my car windows I kill them

oftenreading

hedonist said:

It's a risk taken. I can't see (or hope I wouldn't see) a protester being intentionally run over but given certain conditions, the door is open for some really bad accidents and loss of life - property too.

Any effective protest will involve some risk. Maybe just to reputation, maybe the risk of being arrested, maybe for physical injury.

Halifax2TheMax

unsung said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

How does one get their voice heard in a corrupt machine?

Well, we know you can't stay at a wildlife refuge in the middle of nowhere where you aren't threatening anyone or destroying property.

Ummm, but they did destroy property. Public property. Maybe Godfather's solution would have been appropriate here and out at the Bundy ranch?

PJPOWER

Bentleyspop said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

stand on the highway, get run over...period...i have a job to get to or other responsibilities..they are other ways to get your voice heard...disrupting people getting to work or for other emergency services you immediately lose any apathy to your cause...even if it is a legit one

So it's justified to kill people who block traffic? Makes sense. Being on time is important!

What if they start banging on your car and cracking windows? Then what?

That's rasy....

They bang on my car I kill them
If they crack my car windows I kill them

Pretty sure the castle doctrine would apply here actually. No different than them destroying or breaking windows to gain entry to your house.

pjalive21

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

stand on the highway, get run over...period...i have a job to get to or other responsibilities..they are other ways to get your voice heard...disrupting people getting to work or for other emergency services you immediately lose any apathy to your cause...even if it is a legit one

So it's justified to kill people who block traffic? Makes sense. Being on time is important!

being a law abiding tax paying citizen who doesn't disrupt society is important....you play with fire you have a change to get burned...taking care of my family is more important and i have done absolutely nothing to these people or any other group for them to disrupt my way of living...brutal point of view, yes...but are these protesters going to pay my bills if i cant make it to work? do i want to have that choice whether to protect my job and safety versus these people who cant find other means of venting their frustration?

CM189191

Godfather. said:

fife said:

unsung said:

http://urbanleak.com/truck-runs-over-columbus-day-protesters/

Seriously, go ahead and protest your cause. But why do they block traffic? These people just want to go about their day and get home. Then threaten the driver and call the cops that they hate so much.

first thing: the reason they block traffic is cause they are trying to cause a disruption. it is called a protest. protests are supposed to upset people.

2nd thing, i agree with you that they should not threaten the driver.

3rd thing, they don't hate all cops, they hate the cops who shoot unarmed people. there is a difference

# 3.. they block roads and burn down stores and loot screaming "kill all white people" but they only hate cops who shoot unarmed people ? sounds like an intelligent bunch.

Godfather.

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eddiec

Over the years that I've been going to Akumal/Tulum in Mexico the road from Cancun has changed from a jungle route to a highway. The people living in Akumal pueblo have to cross this road (sometimes with children) to get to work and as the road became a highway they pleaded with the government to build a footbridge over the highway for obvious safety reasons. The government refused and one day a teenage girl was killed trying to cross it. The local people in Akumal staged a protest where they sat on the highway and stopped traffic in both directions for hours. It caused major disruptions.

Now there is a footbridge so the people in Akumal pueblo can safely cross the highway.

PJPOWER

eddiec said:

Over the years that I've been going to Akumal/Tulum in Mexico the road from Cancun has changed from a jungle route to a highway. The people living in Akumal pueblo have to cross this road (sometimes with children) to get to work and as the road became a highway they pleaded with the government to build a footbridge over the highway for obvious safety reasons. The government refused and one day a teenage girl was killed trying to cross it. The local people in Akumal staged a protest where they sat on the highway and stopped traffic in both directions for hours. It caused major disruptions.

Now there is a footbridge so the people in Akumal pueblo can safely cross the highway.

Apples and oranges. I guess if they are okay with getting run over, then go for it. My problem is that the BLM expect people to stop at their mercy and cry foul when someone tries to force their way through. Again, play on the highway, don't be surprised if you get hit by a car.

brianlux

My thinking is first of all, not a wise move to argue with protesters. It's a person right to argue with them of course, but if it had been me, I'd of been polite and asked for permission to pass or turn around. That would very likely have defused the whole incident. Besides that, knowing it was a group of Native Americans protest the "celebration" of Columbus Day, I would have probably asked if I could join their protest. That so-called holiday needs to be done with.

Secondly, this was not a BLM action JPPOWER so not sure why you bring that into the discussion.

No, in fact it was a group of Native Americans, not BLM. Look at the history of Native American treatment, abuse and genocide. Looking at that history, no way am I going to complain about their protest. Not in the least.

Jason P

Blocking roads and making people angry creates divisiveness.