Weirdest decision?
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Played at the Hammersmith Apollo after I had asked Eddie about it the night beforeDr. Delight said:
Have you listened to that song?wnh1977 said:
And as I argued, how does "Thumbing My Way" fit the mood of that album? Nothing riotous about it.Dr. Delight said:"Down" does not fit the theme/mood of Riot Act
Dark album, sad brooding song...yeah, I think they fit pretty well together."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Choosing to play Olé on national television
Ditto!Dr. Delight said:
Have you listened to that song?wnh1977 said:
And as I argued, how does "Thumbing My Way" fit the mood of that album? Nothing riotous about it.Dr. Delight said:"Down" does not fit the theme/mood of Riot Act
Dark album, sad brooding song...yeah, I think they fit pretty well together.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Another odd one is even considering Education as an album opener. Love the song- can't understand how it should open any album.severed hand thirteen2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
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I've never seen a list with opening Education. The original track list had it closing Binaural after Parting Ways. I'm thinking that's what you were going for.SVRDhand13 said:Another odd one is even considering Education as an album opener. Love the song- can't understand how it should open any album.
On another topic, I think that Thumbing My Way absolutely fits on Riot Act. It's perfect on Riot Act. As solid as Down, Otherside and Undone are, they don't belong on Riot Act. I'll cause some waves now and say that Can't Keep not only is a bad way to kick off the album, it's a bad song for an album. It's w b-side at best. Whether as a solo uke or full band.
Personally, I think the weirdest thing this band has done is ending Vitalogy with Stupid Mop and including all of the experimental tracks on that record. Take away that stuff (which I wouldn't do, because I like them) and you have an amazingly uptempo record that just keeps kicking your ass on song after another.0 -
not a fan of ole
there I said it
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Choosing to play Olé on national television
This! That place was ready to explode after Release.....was still a great show and the crowd was awesome, but arms aloft was a real bummer. Corduroy in that spot and the place would have went insane.Wma31394 said:Arms aloft following release at pj20. Hands down worst and for that matter the weirdest..close the thread...
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Rerecording vocals for U and Alone for LD was kinda weird.9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 8/18/00, 10/8/00, 10/9/00, 4/28/03, 6/22/03, 7/8/03, 7/9/03, 10/2/04, 10/5/04, 10/1/05, 10/3/05, 5/28/06, 6/20/08, 6/25/08, 10/27/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16, 8/22/16, 9/26/21, 10/1/21, 10/2/21, 5/3/22, 5/6/220
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This is the correct answer. Stupid Mop is the weirdest and most pointless thing the band has ever produced. Followed by dog collars.ledvedderman said:
Personally, I think the weirdest thing this band has done is ending Vitalogy with Stupid Mop and including all of the experimental tracks on that record. Take away that stuff (which I wouldn't do, because I like them) and you have an amazingly uptempo record that just keeps kicking your ass on song after another.Pittsburgh 1998 • Pittsburgh 2006 • 2012 Isle Of Wight Festival • 2012 Made In America Festival • Baltimore 2013 • Seattle 2013
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Not including Sad on BinauralIf I wrote a song as good as Sad, it would be a part of everything I ever did. Every record, every show, every meal I ate and every breath I took. And I would still die before I got sick of it.0
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Not including Sad on BinauralI think I would have to say that Ole' is IMO the worst song Pearl Jam has ever created. Nails on a chalkboard for me... so, I dont think it was weird... I wish it didnt exist. But hey, to each their own!Charlotte 10/4/96 Raleigh 8/31/98 Charlotte 8/4/00 Raleigh 4/15/03 Asheville 10/6/04
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Agreed... I hated any tinkering with the old tunes from Lost Dogs. You mentioned re-recorded vocals, but I hated any tinkering period. "Drifting" was a different version than the original Christmas single... "Dirty Frank" was different... "Footsteps", "Hard To Imagine"... all different versions from the originals that had surfaced elsewhere earlier. Thought is was a rotten decision.surforia said:Rerecording vocals for U and Alone for LD was kinda weird.
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Yes closing not opening! Both are odd!ledvedderman said:
I've never seen a list with opening Education. The original track list had it closing Binaural after Parting Ways. I'm thinking that's what you were going for.SVRDhand13 said:Another odd one is even considering Education as an album opener. Love the song- can't understand how it should open any album.
On another topic, I think that Thumbing My Way absolutely fits on Riot Act. It's perfect on Riot Act. As solid as Down, Otherside and Undone are, they don't belong on Riot Act. I'll cause some waves now and say that Can't Keep not only is a bad way to kick off the album, it's a bad song for an album. It's w b-side at best. Whether as a solo uke or full band.
Personally, I think the weirdest thing this band has done is ending Vitalogy with Stupid Mop and including all of the experimental tracks on that record. Take away that stuff (which I wouldn't do, because I like them) and you have an amazingly uptempo record that just keeps kicking your ass on song after another.severed hand thirteen2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
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2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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Just thought of one, Eddie performing with Kid Rock at Chris Chelios' bar. Maybe that's the low point and not so much "strange".0
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Haha. Yeah. That's a weird one.ehbacon said:Target commercial by far
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How bad was the commercial? I get the Target thing as a whole. CD's are dissapearing out of stores and it gets harder and harder to retail them. I think they self released that album, so they didn't have a proper record label to distribute it. Thus their options were probably online only, or find a big department store to sell it (which a bunch of bands tried, but has now died off). I guess the right answer is online only?ehbacon said:Target commercial by far
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The Target stuff never bothered me. Like stated above, music sales and distribution have changed greatly over the years. It's not like the band went with Wal Mart or Best But. Target, as far as major retailers are concerned, is pretty reputable.0
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Yeah, when that whole campaign came out my immediate, initial reaction was "Cool, at least they went with Target!" It never bothered me either.ledvedderman said:The Target stuff never bothered me. Like stated above, music sales and distribution have changed greatly over the years. It's not like the band went with Wal Mart or Best But. Target, as far as major retailers are concerned, is pretty reputable.
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I loved the Target deal. My favorite "big" store by far.
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