pipe bomb explodes at military race in new jersey and now a bomb explodes in nyc

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

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    Degeneratefk said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

    Lol.

    So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

    Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

    None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"
    Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?
    Not weird at all Ms. Hypocrisy.

    The abortion clinic 'attacks' are hardly comparable to the terrorist attacks we currently witness (like some are seeming to suggest).
    If you say religion is a motivation for terrorism, then they're totally comparable.
    I'm saying the degree of violence are incomparable.
    How so? Are you thinking about how many are hurt or killed? Is that actually relevant in this context? I would have thought motivation and intent would be the relevant factors.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    hypocrisy abounds!!
    HAHHAHHAHAHHAHA !!!!!!

    Godfather.

    Anything of value to add here? No? Didn't think so.
    my stomach hurts from laughing....no sir, nothing to add you've done a fine job !

    Godfather.

  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

    Lol.

    So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

    Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

    None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"
    Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?
    Not weird at all Ms. Hypocrisy.

    The abortion clinic 'attacks' are hardly comparable to the terrorist attacks we currently witness (like some are seeming to suggest).
    If you say religion is a motivation for terrorism, then they're totally comparable.
    I'm saying the degree of violence are incomparable.
    Degree of violence? What's the difference between a bomb exploding in an abortion clinic as opposed to a dumpster on the street? I think you're missing my point. Which is there have been more attacks on US soil from radical Christians than radical islam. I didn't compare body counts. If that's what you're meaning.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Degeneratefk said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

    Lol.

    So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

    Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

    None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"
    Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?
    Not weird at all Ms. Hypocrisy.

    The abortion clinic 'attacks' are hardly comparable to the terrorist attacks we currently witness (like some are seeming to suggest).
    If you say religion is a motivation for terrorism, then they're totally comparable.
    I'm saying the degree of violence are incomparable.
    Degree of violence? What's the difference between a bomb exploding in an abortion clinic as opposed to a dumpster on the street? I think you're missing my point. Which is there have been more attacks on US soil from radical Christians than radical islam. I didn't compare body counts. If that's what you're meaning.
    Blowing up people is different than blowing up empty buildings.

    Dontcha think?
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    What if a so called Muslim extremist blows up an abortion clinic? No biggie?
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Go Beavers said:

    What if a so called Muslim extremist blows up an abortion clinic? No biggie?

    Blowing up anything is a biggie, but with regards to who plants the bomb and detonates it... there's no difference in my mind.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    http://www.vox.com/2016/6/28/12046626/phrase-islamic-radicalism-meaningless-counterproductive
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    so...they're calling to charge this muslim terrorist as an enemy combatant ? AWESOME !

    Godfather.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    edited September 2016
    Godfather. said:

    so...they're calling to charge this muslim terrorist as an enemy combatant ? AWESOME !

    Godfather.

    For one, it's not going to happen.

    And two, so it's awesome to change the foundation of what this country was built on because some idiot blew up a dumpster?

    http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/lindsey-graham-wants-to-destroy-america-1786824584
    Post edited by Cliffy6745 on
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    Make people afraid and they'll excitedly give up their rights.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Go Beavers said:

    Make people afraid and they'll excitedly give up their rights.

    Or appeal to their common sense: kind of like in the great gun debate.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    edited September 2016
    serious question here: I see on Facebook a lot of people I went to high school with (I was the minority in my high school if that makes sense) are up in arms because the guy who set out pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs somehow lived in a police shoot out. However black people are constantly being gun downed when they are unarmed. the same people are suggesting this guy is white. are muslims considered "white"? like I said, legit question.
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • unsung
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    Go Beavers said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    JC29856 said:

    CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

    under the patriot act does he have a choice?
    He absolutely deserves it, but like you said, I think the patriot act can be applied.
    It's actually NDAA 2012, Obama signed it into law.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    JC29856 said:

    CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

    when treason is involved I'd say no.

    Godfather.

    It's amazing how some people are so gung ho America then want to abandon everything it stands for.
    kind of like when people want to alter or abolish the 2nd amendment? ;)
    Yep, just like that.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited September 2016
    mcgruff10 said:

    serious question here: I see on Facebook a lot of people I went to high school with (I was the minority in my high school if that makes sense) are up in arms because the guy who set out pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs someone how lived in a police shoot out but black people are constantly being gun downed when they are unarmed. the same people are suggesting this guy is white. are muslims considered "white"? like I said, legit question.

    I typically hear middle eastern people referred to as 'brown' (that's how they refer to each other as well... at least my friends who are of middle eastern descent anyways).
    Post edited by Thirty Bills Unpaid on
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    JC29856 said:

    CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

    under the patriot act does he have a choice?
    He absolutely deserves it, but like you said, I think the patriot act can be applied.
    It's actually NDAA 2012, Obama signed it into law.
    They both have elements violating due process.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

    Lol.

    So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

    Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

    None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"
    Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?
    Not weird at all Ms. Hypocrisy.

    The abortion clinic 'attacks' are hardly comparable to the terrorist attacks we currently witness (like some are seeming to suggest).
    If you say religion is a motivation for terrorism, then they're totally comparable.
    I'm saying the degree of violence are incomparable.
    Degree of violence? What's the difference between a bomb exploding in an abortion clinic as opposed to a dumpster on the street? I think you're missing my point. Which is there have been more attacks on US soil from radical Christians than radical islam. I didn't compare body counts. If that's what you're meaning.
    Blowing up people is different than blowing up empty buildings.

    Dontcha think?
    So Christian terrorist have morals?
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    so...they're calling to charge this muslim terrorist as an enemy combatant ? AWESOME !

    Godfather.

    For one, it's not going to happen.

    And two, so it's awesome to change the foundation of what this country was built on because some idiot blew up a dumpster?

    http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/lindsey-graham-wants-to-destroy-america-1786824584
    as soon as anybody joins the side of our enemies they are no longer Americans and should be treated as an enemy
    an to me that means no state or federally funded lawyers and no rights as an American, (the ol' stand by) go to a muslim
    country and tell them you demand your human rights and freedom of religion.

    Godfather.

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,391
    Godfather. said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    so...they're calling to charge this muslim terrorist as an enemy combatant ? AWESOME !

    Godfather.

    For one, it's not going to happen.

    And two, so it's awesome to change the foundation of what this country was built on because some idiot blew up a dumpster?

    http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/lindsey-graham-wants-to-destroy-america-1786824584
    as soon as anybody joins the side of our enemies they are no longer Americans and should be treated as an enemy
    an to me that means no state or federally funded lawyers and no rights as an American, (the ol' stand by) go to a muslim
    country and tell them you demand your human rights and freedom of religion.

    Godfather.

    So you criticize Islamic countries for their lack of human rights and morality, then you propose that they should be a benchmark on how to treat enemy actors? Which is it - are they a strong role model for rule of law, or despicable? You don't get to have it both ways.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Degeneratefk said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

    Lol.

    So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

    Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

    None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"
    Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?
    Not weird at all Ms. Hypocrisy.

    The abortion clinic 'attacks' are hardly comparable to the terrorist attacks we currently witness (like some are seeming to suggest).
    If you say religion is a motivation for terrorism, then they're totally comparable.
    I'm saying the degree of violence are incomparable.
    Degree of violence? What's the difference between a bomb exploding in an abortion clinic as opposed to a dumpster on the street? I think you're missing my point. Which is there have been more attacks on US soil from radical Christians than radical islam. I didn't compare body counts. If that's what you're meaning.
    Blowing up people is different than blowing up empty buildings.

    Dontcha think?
    So Christian terrorist have morals?
    No,

    But blowing up a building contrary to your beliefs is different than blowing up random people in the streets.

    You obviously think they are the same. Too bad.
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