pipe bomb explodes at military race in new jersey and now a bomb explodes in nyc

OffSheGoes35

Godfather. said:

OffSheGoes35 said:

Godfather. said:

JC29856 said:

CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

when treason is involved I'd say no.

Godfather.

Gf, that has to be the craziest thing you've written all day. Why would that ever be okay?

and the day just started ! but really I wonder how many terrorist are detained without legal representation ? but yeah that was a bad choice of words maybe I should have said terrorism, and really I do understand that the legal process is there for a reason and to actually help
but also as an old (passed away) friend told me once "you really don't have any rights until you are arrested"

Godfather.

Never really thought that way, but that makes sense to me. Due process is not a right to take for granted.

HughFreakingDillon

Cliffy6745 said:

Godfather. said:

JC29856 said:

CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

when treason is involved I'd say no.

Godfather.

It's amazing how some people are so gung ho America then want to abandon everything it stands for.

hypocrisy abounds!!

Go Beavers

mcgruff10 said:

JC29856 said:

CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

under the patriot act does he have a choice?

He absolutely deserves it, but like you said, I think the patriot act can be applied.

mcgruff10

Cliffy6745 said:

Godfather. said:

JC29856 said:

CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

when treason is involved I'd say no.

Godfather.

It's amazing how some people are so gung ho America then want to abandon everything it stands for.

kind of like when people want to alter or abolish the 2nd amendment?

Godfather.

hypocrisy abounds!!
HAHHAHHAHAHHAHA !!!!!!

Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Godfather. said:

JC29856 said:

CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

when treason is involved I'd say no.

Godfather.

It's amazing how some people are so gung ho America then want to abandon everything it stands for.

hypocrisy abounds!!

Sometimes, I wish I were dead. No wait. Not me- you.
(Jack Handy)

mcgruff10 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Godfather. said:

JC29856 said:

CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

when treason is involved I'd say no.

Godfather.

It's amazing how some people are so gung ho America then want to abandon everything it stands for.

kind of like when people want to alter or abolish the 2nd amendment?

Freaking Scruffy. He did a good one aaaannd... tossed in a winkie for good measure.

Cliffy6745

mcgruff10 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Godfather. said:

JC29856 said:

CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

when treason is involved I'd say no.

Godfather.

It's amazing how some people are so gung ho America then want to abandon everything it stands for.

kind of like when people want to alter or abolish the 2nd amendment?

Touche.

Though I am not opposed to changing things, because you know, things have changed over time. The right to due process is not one of those things.

Quite ironic that the same people who say you can't touch the 2nd amendment say you can throw due process in the trash can, no?

Cliffy6745

Godfather. said:

hypocrisy abounds!!
HAHHAHHAHAHHAHA !!!!!!

Godfather.

Anything of value to add here? No? Didn't think so.

mcgruff10

Cliffy6745 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Godfather. said:

JC29856 said:

CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

when treason is involved I'd say no.

Godfather.

It's amazing how some people are so gung ho America then want to abandon everything it stands for.

kind of like when people want to alter or abolish the 2nd amendment?

Touche.

Though I am not opposed to changing things, because you know, things have changed over time. The right to due process is not one of those things.

Quite ironic that the same people who say you can't touch the 2nd amendment say you can throw due process in the trash can, no?

absolutely correct!
due process is definitely a must but the patriot act throws a monkey wrench into it.

PJ_Soul

Degeneratefk said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

Lol.

So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"

Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?

PJ_Soul

Jason P said:

dignin said:

Jason P said:

And the fact that Clinton supporters will blindly defend the dumbass idiots who kill random people is putting this country in great danger of being run by a clown. Clown doesn't have to do shit. Clown just needs to sit back and watch the left combust.

Wait? Who died?

Don't mock that we got very lucky because this guy was incompetent.

Shall we go to the most recent U.S. or earth massacre? How about the LBGT community that was slaughtered in Florida?

You sound like an extremist yourself. You think Clinton supporters defend terrorists/mass murderers? And you think it's the left that is combusting while the GOP is imploding over Trump? It seems like you are really seriously biased, to the point where you're not seeing anything clearly. You may need to calm down first, and then try thinking critically.

PJ_Soul

lukin2006 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

NONE OF YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED BY A TERRORIST!

Thank you for the guarantee, I'm sure some here will sleep better at night with that guarantee...

Who on here feels threatened by terrorist?

It's not a mathematical impossibility, but I am a hell of a lot more concerned about a long list of other things. For example, I am much more scared of crossing the street than I am of being attacked by a terrorist. I am also more worried about tainted food, being in a car, walking outside when it's windy out, going down a flight of stairs, walking alone at night ... and I am not very worried at all about any of those things. Why should I be? The odds of being hurt or killed doing any of those things are too low for it to cause me any anxiety... yet my chances of dying doing any of those things are higher than my chances of being victim to terrorism. So I'm not about to waste my energy being worried about that either. I am cautious enough that I would react to something suspicious. A suspicious bag or whatever would draw my attention, for example. But I am not worried about it, nor suspicious of every Muslim I see, since I'm not a bigoted fool.

Of course I very much support intelligence authorities being vigilant about tracking down terrorists or potential terrorists and trying to prevent such acts.... just as long as they don't trample all over innocent people's rights while they're at it.

lukin2006

PJ_Soul said:

lukin2006 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

NONE OF YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED BY A TERRORIST!

Thank you for the guarantee, I'm sure some here will sleep better at night with that guarantee...

Who on here feels threatened by terrorist?

It's not a mathematical impossibility, but I am a hell of a lot more concerned about a long list of other things. For example, I am much more scared of crossing the street than I am of being attacked by a terrorist. I am also more worried about tainted food, being in a car, walking outside when it's windy out, going down a flight of stairs, walking alone at night ... and I am not very worried at all about any of those things. Why should I be? The odds of being hurt or killed doing any of those things are too low for it to cause me any anxiety... yet my chances of dying doing any of those things are higher than my chances of being victim to terrorism. So I'm not about to waste my energy being worried about that either. I am cautious enough that I would react to something suspicious. A suspicious bag or whatever would draw my attention, for example. But I am not worried about it, nor suspicious of every Muslim I see, since I'm not a bigoted fool.

Of course I very much support intelligence authorities being vigilant about tracking down terrorists or potential terrorists and trying to prevent such acts.... just as long as they don't trample all over innocent people's rights while they're at it.

Agreed ... we have many more things that can cause us harm. I never give death at the hands of a terrorist much thought when it comes to my personal safety. But I'm sure some people it does bother...

But I do want my government and those in charge to remain vigilante...

Go Beavers

mcgruff10 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Godfather. said:

JC29856 said:

CNN: DOES BOMBING SUSPECT DESERVE DUE PROCESS?

when treason is involved I'd say no.

Godfather.

It's amazing how some people are so gung ho America then want to abandon everything it stands for.

kind of like when people want to alter or abolish the 2nd amendment?

I don't think it should be changed from the current rights it provides the militia.

I often see the people who claim to love the U.S. the most are the first to want to go North Korean on other people.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

Lol.

So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"

Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?

Not weird at all Ms. Hypocrisy.

The abortion clinic 'attacks' are hardly comparable to the terrorist attacks we currently witness (like some are seeming to suggest).

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

Lol.

So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"

Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?

Not weird at all Ms. Hypocrisy.

The abortion clinic 'attacks' are hardly comparable to the terrorist attacks we currently witness (like some are seeming to suggest).

Why are you calling me Ms. Hypocrisy??

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

Lol.

So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"

Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?

Not weird at all Ms. Hypocrisy.

The abortion clinic 'attacks' are hardly comparable to the terrorist attacks we currently witness (like some are seeming to suggest).

Why are you calling me Ms. Hypocrisy??

A little dig from our last exchange.

I'm just goofing around with you.

Go Beavers

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

Lol.

So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"

Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?

Not weird at all Ms. Hypocrisy.

The abortion clinic 'attacks' are hardly comparable to the terrorist attacks we currently witness (like some are seeming to suggest).

If you say religion is a motivation for terrorism, then they're totally comparable.

JC29856

https://theintercept.com/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrorist/

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

The number of attacks on abortion clinics far exceeded the number of radical muslim attacked in this country

Lol.

So an abortion clinic getting egged is the same as the Boston Marathon?

Define attacked if I'm reading you wrong here please.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

None of those acts listed are clinics that are getting "egged"

Seriously Thirty, weird post. Why did you relate the word terrorism to egging something?

Not weird at all Ms. Hypocrisy.

The abortion clinic 'attacks' are hardly comparable to the terrorist attacks we currently witness (like some are seeming to suggest).

If you say religion is a motivation for terrorism, then they're totally comparable.

I'm saying the degree of violence are incomparable.