Kaepernick

jeffbr

Yay! Nothing screams patriotism or nationalism like being obligated to stand during the anthem or suffer consequences. Ugh.

eddiec

New NFL rules:
1. Toilets will be locked and chained shut 10 minutes prior to the National Anthem.
2. Concession stands will be closed during the anthem.
     The sale of beer and food will be suspended during the anthem.
3. All ticket holders must be in their seats before the Anthem has commenced.
4. Those arriving late and missing the Anthem will be refused entry.

josevolution

Yeah what a great rule to pass ...
#fucktheanthem

my2hands

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/chris-long-issues-scorching-statement-ripping-nfl-anthem-rule/ar-AAxIlkA?ocid=ientp

I LOVE me some Chris Long, of my beloved Philadelphia Eagles! I got your back Chris, fuck em

HesCalledDyer

tbergs said:

Idiocy.

I wonder if she made that sign while wearing her Ray "Stabby" Lewis jersey?  Or was it the Ray "Elevator KO" Rice jersey?

F Me In The Brain

Todd Heap (of shit) jersey behind.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

tbergs said:

Idiocy.

Hey... give her some credit... she spelled Baltimore correctly!

Given her stance, I love the 'peace' sign in the 'a' lol.

cincybearcat

My least favorite part of all of this....the people that claim to hate the government getting involved in everything....telling companies what to do with environmental regulations, etc...well they just bitched and moaned and cheered on their government as they bullied the NFL into this stupid policy.  Way to go!  We want a small government my ass. But of course the government can't make that small business cake shop bake cakes for gay people...that the businesses choice.  Man I hate this crap.  Maybe I'll start sitting during the anthem at games.  Of course that will just get me punched by a drunk guy that doesn;t want the government to tell him what to do...all the while he wants them to tell me what to do.

HughFreakingDillon

cincybearcat said:

My least favorite part of all of this....the people that claim to hate the government getting involved in everything....telling companies what to do with environmental regulations, etc...well they just bitched and moaned and cheered on their government as they bullied the NFL into this stupid policy.  Way to go!  We want a small government my ass. But of course the government can't make that small business cake shop bake cakes for gay people...that the businesses choice.  Man I hate this crap.  Maybe I'll start sitting during the anthem at games.  Of course that will just get me punched by a drunk guy that doesn;t want the government to tell him what to do...all the while he wants them to tell me what to do.

excellent post. 

and I will give Trump credit, when asked about it, he said the NFL didn't bow to his will, they bowed to the will of the people, knowing full well the hypocrisy of the right saying "the government should stay out of it"  but then bowing to the president. 

HesCalledDyer

cincybearcat said:

My least favorite part of all of this....the people that claim to hate the government getting involved in everything....telling companies what to do with environmental regulations, etc...well they just bitched and moaned and cheered on their government as they bullied the NFL into this stupid policy.  Way to go!  We want a small government my ass. But of course the government can't make that small business cake shop bake cakes for gay people...that the businesses choice.  Man I hate this crap.  Maybe I'll start sitting during the anthem at games.  Of course that will just get me punched by a drunk guy that doesn;t want the government to tell him what to do...all the while he wants them to tell me what to do.

That's Pulitzer material there. Bravo!

mrussel1

The players should hold their fists up as their new protest.  I don't think there's anything in the rule that prohibits that. 

There are so many ironies in this whole invented crisis.  

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

The players should hold their fists up as their new protest.  I don't think there's anything in the rule that prohibits that. 

There are so many ironies in this whole invented crisis.  

or put a hat ON during it with a clever hashtag embroidered in it. 

mrussel1

I thought I would post this from the American Conservative as food for thought.  I agree with about 80% of what's written here.  The difference I have is that because I believe that being gay, trans, etc. is predisposed by genetics, it's more of a form of discrimination (Bake the cake, bigot).  But if you talk broadly about silencing conservative voices in the work place, college campuses, etc., then I think this article is spot on.  This is from Rob Dreher who I both admire and disagree with often..  Thoughts?  I bolded and italicized the part that I think is the most interesting...

Look, I really don’t like NFL players weaponizing the National Anthem for the culture war either, but some of us conservatives are being hypocrites about the issue. Robby Soave is right:

Middlebury College shouldn’t sit idly by while students literally attack Charles Murray, and Twitter shouldn’t scrub all non-leftist views from its platform. They shouldn’t do those things because they have made commitments to the spirit of the First Amendment. They say free speech matters to them, and it is perfectly fair for conservatives to hold their feet to the fire when they fall short of those commitments.

But conservatives are being brazenly hypocritical when they celebrate the NFL’s decision to muzzle its players. The NFL might not have made any commitment to free expression, but its players were engaged in one of the most civil and least disruptive forms of protest imaginable. Saying that simply kneeling for the national anthem is so offensive that it must be confined to the locker room or banned outright reflects the same hypersensitivity that plagues the social justice left.

And so is David French, who says  that conservatives can’t plausibly denounce Google and Mozilla for firing James Damore and Brendan Eich while supporting the NFL’s new speech rules:

Make no mistake, I want football players to stand for the anthem. I want them to respect the flag. As a veteran of the war in Iraq, I’ve saluted that flag in foreign lands and deployed with it proudly on my uniform. But as much as I love the flag, I love liberty even more.

The N.F.L. isn’t the government. It has the ability to craft the speech rules its owners want. So does Google. So does Mozilla. So does Yale. American citizens can shame whomever they want to shame.

But what should they do? Should they use their liberty to punish dissent? Or should a free people protect a culture of freedom?

In our polarized times, I’ve adopted a simple standard, a civil liberties corollary to the golden rule: Fight for the rights of others that you would like to exercise yourself. Do you want corporations obliterating speech the state can’t touch? Do you want the price of participation in public debate to include the fear of lost livelihoods? Then, by all means, support the N.F.L. Cheer Silicon Valley’s terminations. Join the boycotts and shame campaigns. Watch this country’s culture of liberty wither in front of your eyes.

Americans don’t really care about liberty anymore, do we? We just want to punish our enemies. The Bake the cake, bigot and Stand for the flag, Negro factions think they’re on opposite sides, but they’re not. They’re left-wing and right-wing version of the same thing.

When the President of the United States says that Americans who peacefully protest by kneeling at the National Anthem should get out of the country, that is as close as the secular Republic has to blasphemy. If I were an NFL player, I would strongly consider kneeling at the anthem on First Amendment grounds, out of respect for the greatest liberty America gives us: the right to speak out minds (including the right to worship freely — that’s in the First Amendment too).

my2hands

#TeamCincy

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

tbergs said:

Idiocy.

Hey... give her some credit... she spelled Baltimore correctly!

Given her stance, I love the 'peace' sign in the 'a' lol.

Yeah, but she doesn't know the difference between kneeling and sitting, lol.

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

My least favorite part of all of this....the people that claim to hate the government getting involved in everything....telling companies what to do with environmental regulations, etc...well they just bitched and moaned and cheered on their government as they bullied the NFL into this stupid policy.  Way to go!  We want a small government my ass. But of course the government can't make that small business cake shop bake cakes for gay people...that the businesses choice.  Man I hate this crap.  Maybe I'll start sitting during the anthem at games.  Of course that will just get me punched by a drunk guy that doesn;t want the government to tell him what to do...all the while he wants them to tell me what to do.

It's how people open to fascism think.

HughFreakingDillon

yep, "it's ok as long as it aligns with my views". 

brianlux

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

My least favorite part of all of this....the people that claim to hate the government getting involved in everything....telling companies what to do with environmental regulations, etc...well they just bitched and moaned and cheered on their government as they bullied the NFL into this stupid policy.  Way to go!  We want a small government my ass. But of course the government can't make that small business cake shop bake cakes for gay people...that the businesses choice.  Man I hate this crap.  Maybe I'll start sitting during the anthem at games.  Of course that will just get me punched by a drunk guy that doesn;t want the government to tell him what to do...all the while he wants them to tell me what to do.

It's how people open to fascism think.

Someone here once said (quite astutely) that people who are against big government are against it except for when they are not. 

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

tbergs said:

Idiocy.

Hey... give her some credit... she spelled Baltimore correctly!

Given her stance, I love the 'peace' sign in the 'a' lol.

Yeah, but she doesn't know the difference between kneeling and sitting, lol.

This too lol.

I was trying to be a glass half full guy for once.

eddiec

If the white players took a knee during the anthem and said they were demanding better treatment for military veterans you can guarantee all conservatives would be 100% behind the protest.