Trump supporters will find a way to make what SS says there a positive statement. (Which is truly delusional.)
That is the smartest rant I can recall seeing him go on.
However...is he disappointed in Ray Lewis for not speaking about what took place in the limo at the SB years ago? Did it take Ray Lewis changing his mind about kneeling for the national anthem to make Shannon disappointed?
"They're following the lead of their parents, and this is a very
political statement that they have no idea what they're doing," she said
of the players who are, again, children.
Ironic since the whole nation begins the indoctrination very early with the Pledge of Allegiance, Anthems, America is the best almost from birth.
Pledge of allegiance is really weird to me. Why is a 5 year old 'pledging allegiance' to anything besides recess? It will always be super creepy to me.
Agreed. It's indoctrination, pure and simple. I think it's sick that kids are still made to do the pledge of allegiance, and even sicker that they even have to do it "under God". The kids have no idea what the meaning behind what they're saying is at a young age. Brainwashing.... and that is 100% the point. I personally had to do the Lord's prayer until it was abolished in public school sometime in the mid-80s... and I remember the two Jewish kids in the class having to physically leave the classroom and wait in the hall while the rest of us were forced to recite the fucking thing. And then the Jews were invited back into the classroom as we were all forced to sing the Canadian anthem as well (which also references God, which I don't support - I think the anthem needs to be changed to get rid of that reference... most don't agree of course). It was unbelievable, in retrospect.
I've mentioned this before I think....there was a girl in my sister's class, can't remember her religion, jehova's maybe? she also had to wait in the hall. it fucking ostracized her socially. my grade 6 teacher used to read bible verses every fucking morning. I hated it. I knew even then that it was wrong to mix school and religion.
same thing, as you said, goes for this "pledge" nonsense. it's nazi germany shit. but it's deemed ok because we're not extremists.
god should be removed from all government documents and traditions. separation of church and state.
We are not forced to say the pledge. At least, I wasn't.
We learn it, just as we learn a lot of other bullshit that we do not use or do. But we are not forced to say it.
I stopped saying it in third grade but still stood with my hand over my heart because I was small and shy at that time, and I cared about how other people would react. I stopped standing for it when I was in fourth grade. I was still small and shy, but I stopped giving a fuck about how other people would react.
Anyway, I think the schools are required to do it but not the students. I could be wrong. Maybe it's a state thing.
Wow, we can trace it all of the way back to then?!
I'd like to think I stopped caring in Jr High, but that would be untrue. I mostly stopped caring about when I was 15...but there are still people to this day that I want to think well of me. This doesn't guide my actions, necessarily, just being honest.
(And I believe you speak your mind freely, DK...not questioning that.)
"They're following the lead of their parents, and this is a very
political statement that they have no idea what they're doing," she said
of the players who are, again, children.
Ironic since the whole nation begins the indoctrination very early with the Pledge of Allegiance, Anthems, America is the best almost from birth.
Pledge of allegiance is really weird to me. Why is a 5 year old 'pledging allegiance' to anything besides recess? It will always be super creepy to me.
Agreed. It's indoctrination, pure and simple. I think it's sick that kids are still made to do the pledge of allegiance, and even sicker that they even have to do it "under God". The kids have no idea what the meaning behind what they're saying is at a young age. Brainwashing.... and that is 100% the point. I personally had to do the Lord's prayer until it was abolished in public school sometime in the mid-80s... and I remember the two Jewish kids in the class having to physically leave the classroom and wait in the hall while the rest of us were forced to recite the fucking thing. And then the Jews were invited back into the classroom as we were all forced to sing the Canadian anthem as well (which also references God, which I don't support - I think the anthem needs to be changed to get rid of that reference... most don't agree of course). It was unbelievable, in retrospect.
I've mentioned this before I think....there was a girl in my sister's class, can't remember her religion, jehova's maybe? she also had to wait in the hall. it fucking ostracized her socially. my grade 6 teacher used to read bible verses every fucking morning. I hated it. I knew even then that it was wrong to mix school and religion.
same thing, as you said, goes for this "pledge" nonsense. it's nazi germany shit. but it's deemed ok because we're not extremists.
god should be removed from all government documents and traditions. separation of church and state.
We are not forced to say the pledge. At least, I wasn't.
We learn it, just as we learn a lot of other bullshit that we do not use or do. But we are not forced to say it.
I stopped saying it in third grade but still stood with my hand over my heart because I was small and shy at that time, and I cared about how other people would react. I stopped standing for it when I was in fourth grade. I was still small and shy, but I stopped giving a fuck about how other people would react.
Anyway, I think the schools are required to do it but not the students. I could be wrong. Maybe it's a state thing.
Wow, we can trace it all of the way back to then?!
I'd like to think I stopped caring in Jr High, but that would be untrue. I mostly stopped caring about when I was 15...but there are still people to this day that I want to think well of me. This doesn't guide my actions, necessarily, just being honest.
(And I believe you speak your mind freely, DK...not questioning that.)
I may have cared a little about what Ms. Montone thought about me. Holy balls! She was hot!
So I may have stopped standing for other reasons. I may have just needed to sit with a pile of textbooks in my lap while I thought about baseball.
"They're following the lead of their parents, and this is a very
political statement that they have no idea what they're doing," she said
of the players who are, again, children.
Ironic since the whole nation begins the indoctrination very early with the Pledge of Allegiance, Anthems, America is the best almost from birth.
Pledge of allegiance is really weird to me. Why is a 5 year old 'pledging allegiance' to anything besides recess? It will always be super creepy to me.
Agreed. It's indoctrination, pure and simple. I think it's sick that kids are still made to do the pledge of allegiance, and even sicker that they even have to do it "under God". The kids have no idea what the meaning behind what they're saying is at a young age. Brainwashing.... and that is 100% the point. I personally had to do the Lord's prayer until it was abolished in public school sometime in the mid-80s... and I remember the two Jewish kids in the class having to physically leave the classroom and wait in the hall while the rest of us were forced to recite the fucking thing. And then the Jews were invited back into the classroom as we were all forced to sing the Canadian anthem as well (which also references God, which I don't support - I think the anthem needs to be changed to get rid of that reference... most don't agree of course). It was unbelievable, in retrospect.
I've mentioned this before I think....there was a girl in my sister's class, can't remember her religion, jehova's maybe? she also had to wait in the hall. it fucking ostracized her socially. my grade 6 teacher used to read bible verses every fucking morning. I hated it. I knew even then that it was wrong to mix school and religion.
same thing, as you said, goes for this "pledge" nonsense. it's nazi germany shit. but it's deemed ok because we're not extremists.
god should be removed from all government documents and traditions. separation of church and state.
We are not forced to say the pledge. At least, I wasn't.
We learn it, just as we learn a lot of other bullshit that we do not use or do. But we are not forced to say it.
I stopped saying it in third grade but still stood with my hand over my heart because I was small and shy at that time, and I cared about how other people would react. I stopped standing for it when I was in fourth grade. I was still small and shy, but I stopped giving a fuck about how other people would react.
Anyway, I think the schools are required to do it but not the students. I could be wrong. Maybe it's a state thing.
Wow, we can trace it all of the way back to then?!
I'd like to think I stopped caring in Jr High, but that would be untrue. I mostly stopped caring about when I was 15...but there are still people to this day that I want to think well of me. This doesn't guide my actions, necessarily, just being honest.
(And I believe you speak your mind freely, DK...not questioning that.)
I may have cared a little about what Ms. Montone thought about me. Holy balls! She was hot!
So I may have stopped standing for other reasons. I may have just needed to sit with a pile of textbooks in my lap and while I thought about baseball.
Trump supporters will find a way to make what SS says there a positive statement. (Which is truly delusional.)
That is the smartest rant I can recall seeing him go on.
However...is he disappointed in Ray Lewis for not speaking about what took place in the limo at the SB years ago? Did it take Ray Lewis changing his mind about kneeling for the national anthem to make Shannon disappointed?
Just wondering....
Exactly. The same style of argument could be said right back to Shannon Sharpe. It didn't take allegations of murder for him to be disappointed in Ray. It didn't take pleading guilty to obstruction of justice for him to be disappointed in Ray. No, it took Ray Lewis changing his mind about taking a knee, then taking said knee. So what is Shannon Sharpe really disappointed in?
I try not to listen to anything Bob Costas says...
Well what he had to say here was apt - not sure why you wouldn't want to listen to it. He missed one point though - the REASON it's only about the military in sports. That is 100% on purpose to brainwash the masses into a certain kind of nationalism that specifically serves the military because it makes people support it even when it's doing the wrong thing. The military spends a shitload of money to make it happen.
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I try not to listen to anything Bob Costas says...
Well what he had to say here was apt - not sure why you wouldn't want to listen to it. He missed one point though - the REASON it's only about the military in sports. That is 100% on purpose to brainwash the masses into a certain kind of nationalism that specifically serves the military because it makes people support it even when it's doing the wrong thing. The military spends a shitload of money to make it happen.
I did listen and it was very well thought out.
The reason I try not to listen to Costas is because he annoys me, lol.
I try not to listen to anything Bob Costas says...
Well what he had to say here was apt - not sure why you wouldn't want to listen to it. He missed one point though - the REASON it's only about the military in sports. That is 100% on purpose to brainwash the masses into a certain kind of nationalism that specifically serves the military because it makes people support it even when it's doing the wrong thing. The military spends a shitload of money to make it happen.
I did listen and it was very well thought out.
The reason I try not to listen to Costas is because he annoys me, lol.
He's gotten better over the years. McCarver and Joe Buck always annoyed me the most. So fucking arrogant and snide all the time. Joe dishonored his dad in every way possible.
Trump supporters will find a way to make what SS says there a positive statement. (Which is truly delusional.)
That is the smartest rant I can recall seeing him go on.
However...is he disappointed in Ray Lewis for not speaking about what took place in the limo at the SB years ago? Did it take Ray Lewis changing his mind about kneeling for the national anthem to make Shannon disappointed?
Just wondering....
Exactly. The same style of argument could be said right back to Shannon Sharpe. It didn't take allegations of murder for him to be disappointed in Ray. It didn't take pleading guilty to obstruction of justice for him to be disappointed in Ray. No, it took Ray Lewis changing his mind about taking a knee, then taking said knee. So what is Shannon Sharpe really disappointed in?
I figure that all depends on whether or not he believed the charges. He may know something we don't and has reason to think Lewis is innocent (even if he plead guilty to obstruction). Kinda like Eddie's friendship with Townsend, who some think is a pedophile, or his friendship with Sean Penn, who some think is a wife beater. Sure, if those things are true and Eddie knew it, then he'd be a huge hypocrite. But if Eddie knows something we don't and for wherever reason truly believes that neither of them did anything wrong, then he's not a hypocrite. Some goes for Sharpe and his attitude about Ray.
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it's interesting how the CFL has followed this lead in recent years. the whole "sports and military" thing has never made any fucking sense to me. it's like nuts and gum. obviously it's a marketing ploy paid for by the military to get football fans to enroll, as they know kids watch and are very impressionable.
you don't see fucking jets doing flyovers at the ballet. what's the difference?
I've said this for years. The NFL is a giant paid infomercial for the military. Got to spend that 1 billion dollar marketing budget.
It is nice to see some light shed on the subject with articles like these and Costas above.
Disappointed to see my MN Wild in that group near the top. 30 years ago as a young kid I don't remember seeing any military ads or the big pomp and circumstance before games. Someone sang the anthem and that was it. There was no fly over, no honorary service member in attendance or reunited couple. Now they shove it at you every game. My wife is always like, what about the teachers, counselors, etc.
It's a response so simple its stupid. Fight fire with fire. You get hundreds of players only calling Trump as "Draft Dodging Donnie" and his head will explode in rage. Hit him right in the gut for trying to defend the flag when records prove he avoided defending the flag.
I dont have have means of social media to spread this nickname but by god it is so obvious. Spread the dumb word.
The easiest people to lie to are the ones who want to be lied to. That is the state of Fox News viewers. They don't want to know details of the world as is. They want to be fed a fictionalized but more comfortable version of the world. One in which they and the Red Team are always, ALWAYS, the good guys. Which means everyone else, anyone who disagrees at all, becomes the bad guy.
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That is the smartest rant I can recall seeing him go on.
However...is he disappointed in Ray Lewis for not speaking about what took place in the limo at the SB years ago? Did it take Ray Lewis changing his mind about kneeling for the national anthem to make Shannon disappointed?
Just wondering....
I'd like to think I stopped caring in Jr High, but that would be untrue. I mostly stopped caring about when I was 15...but there are still people to this day that I want to think well of me. This doesn't guide my actions, necessarily, just being honest.
(And I believe you speak your mind freely, DK...not questioning that.)
So I may have stopped standing for other reasons. I may have just needed to sit with a pile of textbooks in my lap while I thought about baseball.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20815108/alejandro-villanueva-pittsburgh-steelers-top-selling-gear-standing-national-anthem
The reason I try not to listen to Costas is because he annoys me, lol.
http://deadspin.com/these-teams-earned-the-most-from-the-militarys-paid-pa-1740567338.
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It is nice to see some light shed on the subject with articles like these and Costas above.
you don't see fucking jets doing flyovers at the ballet. what's the difference?
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/09/25/dinesh-dsousza-colin-kaepernicks-big-lie.html
This is how dumb they are.
'VOICE' STAR MEGHAN LINSEY DEFENDS HER NATIONAL ANTHEM KNEE DESPITE BACKLASH FROM COUNTRY FANS
http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwuLCIkDY
It's a response so simple its stupid. Fight fire with fire. You get hundreds of players only calling Trump as "Draft Dodging Donnie" and his head will explode in rage. Hit him right in the gut for trying to defend the flag when records prove he avoided defending the flag.
I dont have have means of social media to spread this nickname but by god it is so obvious. Spread the dumb word.
The easiest people to lie to are the ones who want to be lied to. That is the state of Fox News viewers. They don't want to know details of the world as is. They want to be fed a fictionalized but more comfortable version of the world. One in which they and the Red Team are always, ALWAYS, the good guys. Which means everyone else, anyone who disagrees at all, becomes the bad guy.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."