By the way, Ed stopping was awesome

slightofjeff

To you. I laughed. But then again I'm probably evil.

lolobugg

being a Cubs fan, I laughed......
you have to have a sense of humour when you are a Cubs fan.

Empty Glass

PJ_Soul said:

Empty Glass said:

It boils down to this....Comedy is dead. Nobody can tell a joke anymore because someone will have their feelings hurt.

Mr. Bartman should have gone back to the park when invited. He would have received a standing ovation and he'd be going to all the games now.

Nah. It just wasn't funny. Barely comedy at all, and a bad attempt at that, on top of being out-of-date and badly timed, all while being at the expense of a man who has been badly treated. Just because someone attempts a joke it doesn't mean we are obligated to like it. No need to turn this into people being too PC. God knows I'm not, and that "joke" just wasn't good on any level.

I never even heard the "joke". I laugh at the reference. Not at what happened to the man himself, that truly does suck, but the entire story. People going apeshit for a foul ball.

People are too PC today by the way.

PJ_Soul

slightofjeff said:

To you. I laughed. But then again I'm probably evil.

Well fine, lol, all I'm saying is that if people think a joke is shitty it doesn't automatically mean that "comedy is dead" and they are too sensitive.

tweedyfanjen

slightofjeff said:

To you. I laughed. But then again I'm probably evil.

Me too. But I'm not really a baseball fan and I forgot about the joke about 10 seconds after Eddie made it.

Eddieredder

He made a bad joke. Not a big deal. Anyone else see the irony here? Fanatical PJ fans being critical about a joke about a fanatical fan situation? My friends and I joked about dressing up like Bartman for the show. I guess I'm going to hell too.

PJ_Soul

Jesus Christ, I guess having an opinion doesn't work here anymore.

slightofjeff

PJ_Soul said:

Jesus Christ, I guess having an opinion doesn't work here anymore.

Because people might disagree? It's kind of like that in real life too.

PJ_Soul

slightofjeff said:

PJ_Soul said:

Jesus Christ, I guess having an opinion doesn't work here anymore.

Because people might disagree? It's kind of like that in real life too.

No, because people are saying that the conversation shouldn't even be taking place.

Empty Glass

I think the OP needs to change the thread title

pjman75

Wife and I went to merch tent Tuesday and when walking back had a security guy tell us to get on the sidewalk instead of walking down Waveland. Made conversation and asked him if he was at the show. Said he worked it and I asked him what he thought. Said it wasn't his kinda music but it was long and he actually enjoyed the show itself. Wife asked him how he liked Ed working security from the stage. Guard said that he was working the front of stage area Monday night and helped get the guy over the rail to be escorted out. Said the guy was punching the woman in the face trying to get to rail. Her male friend was working to keep the idiot back and things were about to get worse when Ed stopped Lukin. I asked if she was okay from passing out and he said she never did, she actually held her own quite well. He acted surprised when I mentioned my friends saw a woman pass out. Maybe he missed that or something, I don't know. I was in section 34. This is all second hand from a security guard the day after so take it for what it's worth. I'm choosing to believe him simply cuz I like the thought of the woman preparing to kick a drunk idiots ass when Ed stepped in.

Degeneratefk

The bartman reference wasnt that big of a deal. People over analyzing things.

lolobugg

Degeneratefk said:

The bartman reference wasnt that big of a deal. People over analyzing things.

not to us Cubs fans. that shit is the past. can only joke about it now.
I guess I live in a bubble... I didn't realize not everyone knew what he was referencing.

pjman75

@unikunka I just saw your recap, thanks for the first hand account. I'm never sure when talking to guards what they did and didn't see.

RP112579

Hilarious that this "joke" is still being talked about, three days later.

PJ_Soul

I am duly impressed by how the band went back into the song btw. Seemed almost seamless, and it was funny.

HesCalledDyer

PJ_Soul said:

I am duly impressed by how the band went back into the song btw. Seemed almost seamless, and it was funny.

That was quite excellent. Never seen them pick up a song right where they left off with such precision. And for that song to be Lukin, well, makes it even more incredible!

Wma31394

pjman75 said:

Wife and I went to merch tent Tuesday and when walking back had a security guy tell us to get on the sidewalk instead of walking down Waveland. Made conversation and asked him if he was at the show. Said he worked it and I asked him what he thought. Said it wasn't his kinda music but it was long and he actually enjoyed the show itself. Wife asked him how he liked Ed working security from the stage. Guard said that he was working the front of stage area Monday night and helped get the guy over the rail to be escorted out. Said the guy was punching the woman in the face trying to get to rail. Her male friend was working to keep the idiot back and things were about to get worse when Ed stopped Lukin. I asked if she was okay from passing out and he said she never did, she actually held her own quite well. He acted surprised when I mentioned my friends saw a woman pass out. Maybe he missed that or something, I don't know. I was in section 34. This is all second hand from a security guard the day after so take it for what it's worth. I'm choosing to believe him simply cuz I like the thought of the woman preparing to kick a drunk idiots ass when Ed stepped in.

A fan who said they were right there said the guy was definitely pushing prior to that but it was a bunch of screaming and yelling at the woman that sparked ed. Then pushing more dudes when he got bounced..thought it was this thread..

Degeneratefk

lolobugg said:

Degeneratefk said:

The bartman reference wasnt that big of a deal. People over analyzing things.

not to us Cubs fans. that shit is the past. can only joke about it now.
I guess I live in a bubble... I didn't realize not everyone knew what he was referencing.

I'm a die hard cub fan. Still think it was no big deal

Porch Dweller

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

I am duly impressed by how the band went back into the song btw. Seemed almost seamless, and it was funny.

That was quite excellent. Never seen them pick up a song right where they left off with such precision. And for that song to be Lukin, well, makes it even more incredible!

Agreed, I loved how they picked up right where they left off. Even Kille was ready to go with the lights when they kicked back into it!

lolobugg

Degeneratefk said:

lolobugg said:

Degeneratefk said:

The bartman reference wasnt that big of a deal. People over analyzing things.

not to us Cubs fans. that shit is the past. can only joke about it now.
I guess I live in a bubble... I didn't realize not everyone knew what he was referencing.

I'm a die hard cub fan. Still think it was no big deal

no I am agreeing with you. it's not a big deal anymore. it was for me in 2003.

PP193448

Glad Ed didn't get my brother tossed out when he started the small Inflatable baseball being hit around. I handed it to my brother then he blew it up and hit it towards the middle of the pit from where we were standing on Mike's side. Probably not a great time to do that with Ed reading from his paper long list of dedications he wanted to discuss. But it was damn funny when he stopped and told everyone to put down the beach balls, stop hitting them. Then he said "hold your balls".
Sorry Ed and everyone else for being rude. Bad timing. Just trying to have fun.

lolobugg

PP193448 said:

Glad Ed didn't get my brother tossed out when he started the small Inflatable baseball being hit around. I handed it to my brother then he blew it up and hit it towards the middle of the pit from where we were standing on Mike's side. Probably not a great time to do that with Ed reading from his paper long list of dedications he wanted to discuss. But it was damn funny when he stopped and told everyone to put down the beach balls, stop hitting them. Then he said "hold your balls".
Sorry Ed and everyone else for being rude. Bad timing. Just trying to have fun.

that was funny. I missed you guys again. one day I just might meet you!!!

PJForceofNature

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

I am duly impressed by how the band went back into the song btw. Seemed almost seamless, and it was funny.

That was quite excellent. Never seen them pick up a song right where they left off with such precision. And for that song to be Lukin, well, makes it even more incredible!

And MYM right after!

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
All of this.
I thought that too when watching the video. I watched it a few times just when they pick up again.
They're so freakin polished it's like they swatted a mosquito as if nothing happened and kept playing.
Unreal.

seaboarder

I've watched the video a few times and I never heard Ed mention Bartman ?

slightofjeff

seaboarder said:

I've watched the video a few times and I never heard Ed mention Bartman ?

It was a little bit later, when they came back out for the encore.

mr bungle

HesCalledDyer said:

AceCool said:

mr bungle said:

I think we can crack Bartman jokes 14 years later.. If Bartman's life is still a mess because of his fuck up, its on him. I think most people have moved on.. No one got hurt for Christ's sake, just a bunch of millionare's missed the Series.

Obviously you didn't watch the 30 For 30 documentary about it. Dude was/is a lifelong fan surrounded by people that were supposedly on his side. At first people were just screaming at him and throwing beers. By the time the team was finished choking away a game they were in control of the guy was genuinely afraid for his physical safety. Rightly so due to the drunken mob mentality at the event. Then his identity was revealed and he couldn't go to work or even stay in his house without being savagely harassed. That Halloween there were 1000s of people wearing Cubs hats with headphones and glasses. It's not a stretch to say that his life became a living hell to the point where the dude had to go Salmon fucking Rushdie and disappear. I'd say that qualifies as someone getting hurt. For what? Trying to catch a foul ball that every single other person around him reached for as well.

Exactly. And not, it's not cool to crack Bartman jokes. Cubs fans are over it. Any TRUE Cubs fan and fan of the game of baseball, anyway. Bungle, Bartman did not fuck up. He reached for a foul ball, out of play which, as Ace mentioned, everyone around him did as well. If Moises Alou doesn't react like a little bitch after the play, most likely it's just like any play with a routine foul ball in the stands - totally forgotten. But Alou's reaction, and the broadcast media continually panning the camera to him... ruined the guys life. I've been a Cubs fan all my life, just as Steve Bartman was. I can't imagine having that taken away from me because the fellow fans of the thing we all love and came to see failed and blamed it on me.

Are you the actual Bartman? Fucking awesome!

crookedcross

Breaking News: because of this thread, PJ memorabilia flipper sold Steve Bartman turtle neck on ebay for $113,000; real PJ fans suffer

dimitrispearljam

unikunka said:

This is exactly what happened -- I was two people to left of what happened and saw the whole thing:

The guy who got kicked out was a huge jackass. Early in the night he started shoving a few people. The guy was drunk and his wife/girlfriend got in his face and they were screaming at each other. Nobody knew what was going on but the wife was trying to basically say "you're drunk calm down". A couple of people told him the same and he started pushing again and we called over security. He didn't get booted but he got a stern warning and then started to behave. BTW this was early during Betterman.

Then what happened during Lukin was two-fold -- a girl flat out passed out in about the 8th row. A guy grabbed her and started heading to the rail. Everyone else immediately started clearing the way and helping. The girl was out cold and it was sorta scary. We all started shouting for help but then the guy carrying the girl got to the asshole from before and the asshole probably thought he was getting pushed and turned around and started going fucking crazy. We were all like "dude this girl is passed out" and he sorta calmed down and the girl for over the rail but by that time the song stopped and he was still pushing/jawing and everyone around him was like "you gotta go". So Ed booted him. The girl who was passed out came to as she went over the rail and seemed ok so that's what ed's comment was about but they were actually total separate incidents.

Funniest part was assholes wife had to follow him out over the rail looking pissed cause the guy was an ass. There was another incident where he had gone for beers he didn't need mid-show and was jawing at people on the way back when he was shoving his way back up.

Yep that exactly what happened..
Weird was why girl has only her underwear on..and tey to cover her self and was like naked from weist down