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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    What do you do?
    I work in HSE for manufacturing. Ironically you’d probably like the work I do ;)
    Not as much as I like teachers!
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    edited February 2020
    My job(s) beat all of yours. Because I have taxfunded healthcare. We have paid parental leave. We have paid vacation. People get to eat lunch. Etc.  
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:

     But I would say that your statement assumes that work is not actually enjoyable for some people. ;)
    ?
    Some people like working...they enjoy their work. If the only goal is to work as little as possible and go home then less hours are always good. But some people enjoy their work and get fulfillment from it
    8 hours work hours I would guess in the modern world is quite the standard (40h/ week)(?)... having breaks isn't about "not wanting to work".

    And working 9 to 5 without a break, in what way is that working more than 8 to 5 with a lunch break? 
    Ok, I didn’t think I needed to say this. I used “9-5” to describe work...there is very likely hardy anyone that works those hours. It was a specific hour example. 

    How about try 7-5 or 730-630, or sometimes 7-7....
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    What do you do?
    I work in HSE for manufacturing. Ironically you’d probably like the work I do ;)
    Not as much as I like teachers!
    Perhaps, I do a lot of training if others though!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    What do you do?
    I work in HSE for manufacturing. Ironically you’d probably like the work I do ;)
    Not as much as I like teachers!
    Perhaps, I do a lot of training if others though!
    Do you have to deal with their parents?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:

     But I would say that your statement assumes that work is not actually enjoyable for some people. ;)
    ?
    Some people like working...they enjoy their work. If the only goal is to work as little as possible and go home then less hours are always good. But some people enjoy their work and get fulfillment from it
    8 hours work hours I would guess in the modern world is quite the standard (40h/ week)(?)... having breaks isn't about "not wanting to work".

    And working 9 to 5 without a break, in what way is that working more than 8 to 5 with a lunch break? 
    Ok, I didn’t think I needed to say this. I used “9-5” to describe work...there is very likely hardy anyone that works those hours. It was a specific hour example. 

    How about try 7-5 or 730-630, or sometimes 7-7....
    Well, 8-5 is actually a standard (here) for how people work. So how was I to know "9-5" wasn't in the US. Hah.

    And having 40 hour work weeks (with from googling seems to be a standard even in the US) doesn't say you don't love your job. But there is something called work-life-balance, resting up and taking care of other things in life (Children etc).

    I though, work two jobs and more than 40 hours. Because I enjoy it.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    What do you do?
    I work in HSE for manufacturing. Ironically you’d probably like the work I do ;)
    Not as much as I like teachers!
    Perhaps, I do a lot of training if others though!
    Do you have to deal with their parents?
    Hahaha, actually I do sometimes. But not like teachers do. But I didn’t think that was what determines their value in your equation 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    What do you do?
    I work in HSE for manufacturing. Ironically you’d probably like the work I do ;)
    Not as much as I like teachers!
    Perhaps, I do a lot of training if others though!
    Do you have to deal with their parents?
    Hahaha, actually I do sometimes. But not like teachers do. But I didn’t think that was what determines their value in your equation 
    I contain multitudes. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    My job(s) beat all of yours. Because I have taxfunded healthcare. We have paid parental leave. We have paid vacation. People get to eat lunch. Etc.  
    That is pretty sweet - good for you.

    Not sure how that makes your job any better than anyone else's?

    I'd bet that many people here also like their jobs.  
    If I make 5x what you do then I can afford vacations and healthcare and whatever else I want.
    Your job still might be way better, you might love it more than anything.

    Only to say that benefits and pay does not make the job better, necessarily.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    My job(s) beat all of yours. Because I have taxfunded healthcare. We have paid parental leave. We have paid vacation. People get to eat lunch. Etc.  
    That is pretty sweet - good for you.

    Not sure how that makes your job any better than anyone else's?

    I'd bet that many people here also like their jobs.  
    If I make 5x what you do then I can afford vacations and healthcare and whatever else I want.
    Your job still might be way better, you might love it more than anything.

    Only to say that benefits and pay does not make the job better, necessarily.
    thats the joke
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    Okey
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    cincybearcat said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    He said Kansas
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    F Me In The Brain said:
    He said Kansas
    Ah shit I missed it. Thanks!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    cincybearcat said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    Exasperating. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    edited February 2020
    F Me In The Brain said:
    He said Kansas
    What s the matter with Kansas?  Greatest political book I ever read. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    Carry on my wayward son
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I was thinking Toto (not the godawful band).  
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    Exasperating. 
    So in between your insults of me I missed a post. Sorry. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    edited February 2020
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    Exasperating. 
    So in between your insults of me I missed a post. Sorry. 
    You posted an accusatory followup without bothering to go back and look. True to your pattern. 
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