Obama's actions/speech caused the Dallas shooting...

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Go Beavers said:

    Godfather. said:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/negative-views-of-race-relations-reach-all-time-high-cbsnyt-poll/

    And you probably blame Obama to fit your own narrative and pre-made conclusion. To go from 22% bad in '09 to 69% bad now, reflects the racism that's come to the surface. If we had McCain/Romey, that racism would've been there, just less so at the surface. A black president can be a challenge to white privilege, so people push back.
    white privilege ? and blame Obama ?.......always the race card, it that all you have ?

    Godfather.

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,517
    edited July 2016
    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    I can ignore all that but when people try to convince me that the world is round (bah!) and that the earth is not the center of the universe (blasphemy!), well that just frosts me! :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ?
    serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !

    Godfather.

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Godfather. said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ?
    serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !

    Godfather.

    I know! It's crazy. I mean, it's just disgusting reading this...

    "I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.

    "I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.

    "We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.

    "Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ?
    serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !

    Godfather.

    I know! It's crazy. I mean, it's just disgusting reading this...

    "I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.

    "I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.

    "We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.

    "Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."

    nice ! but I'm talking about what has been happening over the last 7 years,
    and yes I read your cut and paste...very nice !

    Godfather.

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Godfather. said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ?
    serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !

    Godfather.

    I know! It's crazy. I mean, it's just disgusting reading this...

    "I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.

    "I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.

    "We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.

    "Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."

    nice ! but I'm talking about what has been happening over the last 7 years,
    and yes I read your cut and paste...very nice !

    Godfather.

    What has been happening over the last 7 years?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ?
    serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !

    Godfather.

    I know! It's crazy. I mean, it's just disgusting reading this...

    "I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.

    "I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.

    "We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.

    "Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."

    nice ! but I'm talking about what has been happening over the last 7 years,
    and yes I read your cut and paste...very nice !

    Godfather.

    What has been happening over the last 7 years?
    ........really ?

    Godfather.

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Godfather. said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ?
    serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !

    Godfather.

    I know! It's crazy. I mean, it's just disgusting reading this...

    "I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.

    "I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.

    "We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.

    "Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."

    nice ! but I'm talking about what has been happening over the last 7 years,
    and yes I read your cut and paste...very nice !

    Godfather.

    What has been happening over the last 7 years?
    ........really ?

    Godfather.

    Really

    http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    How is Obama to blame? Because he said Trayvon Martin couldve been his son? That empowered the BLM movement so much that they had to continue to commit crimes?
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  • seanwon
    seanwon Posts: 622
    http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html
    Interesting, so 1716 officers killed during Reagan's administration, and 1091 the first 7 years of Obama's presidency. I wish Obama would stop the divisive rhetoric, he is putting our officers lives in danger at unprecedented levels!

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited July 2016
    PJPOWER said:

    At the end of the day, the only person that is responsible for or "caused" the Dallas shooting is the asshat that did the shooting. We can be angry with, disagree with, dislike others and their opinions and still choose not resort to mass murder. It was his personal choice. Rhetoric from Obama increasing tension or not, it does not give someone the right to shoot up police or vise versa. The guy was a sick fuck, period. We've got to start holding individuals responsible for their individual actions. 99% of us live in peace, not being violent or shooting each other up regardless of our differences. It's good to keep that in mind while looking through a media microscope.

    I agree, and at this point I'm just really starting to wonder why so many of these mass shooters are US vets. Is the military dropping the ball somewhere? Are these attacks all attributable to PTSD? Or some other "thing" that is caused by their time in the military, aside from training to solve problems with guns?? If some kind of common thread there can be found, then perhaps something can be done about prevention. God knows how many more US vets are having thoughts of mass shootings right now, for whatever reason.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    Godfather. said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Godfather. said:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/negative-views-of-race-relations-reach-all-time-high-cbsnyt-poll/

    And you probably blame Obama to fit your own narrative and pre-made conclusion. To go from 22% bad in '09 to 69% bad now, reflects the racism that's come to the surface. If we had McCain/Romey, that racism would've been there, just less so at the surface. A black president can be a challenge to white privilege, so people push back.
    white privilege ? and blame Obama ?.......always the race card, it that all you have ?

    Godfather.

    Crazy me, talking about racism in response to you're linked article talking about race relations. Now back on task! Whatever that is.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Godfather. said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ?
    serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !

    Godfather.

    Hahaha Reagan, who supported the South African apartheid regime, an openly, institutionally racist government that literally placed black people as second class citizens.
    Yeah, you would miss him wouldn't you lol
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ?
    serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !

    Godfather.

    Hahaha Reagan, who supported the South African apartheid regime, an openly, institutionally racist government that literally placed black people as second class citizens.
    Yeah, you would miss him wouldn't you lol
    much better than the last few presidents we had so far.


    Godfather.

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    edited July 2016
    seanwon said:

    http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html
    Interesting, so 1716 officers killed during Reagan's administration, and 1091 the first 7 years of Obama's presidency. I wish Obama would stop the divisive rhetoric, he is putting our officers lives in danger at unprecedented levels!

    Well good stuff doing the math. I was too lazy.

    Still miss Reagan, GF? Do you long for the days when cops were getting killed more often?


    Post edited by Cliffy6745 on
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,517
    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?

    Brian Brian Brian where have you been?
    There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
    It goes on and on and on
    really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ?
    serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !

    Godfather.

    Hahaha Reagan, who supported the South African apartheid regime, an openly, institutionally racist government that literally placed black people as second class citizens.
    Yeah, you would miss him wouldn't you lol
    He also refused to say or do anything about HIV/AIDS
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    If Sarah Palin is responsible for the Gabby Giffords shooting then President Obama is responsible for every single one of those dead police officers.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    BS44325 said:

    If Sarah Palin is responsible for the Gabby Giffords shooting then President Obama is responsible for every single one of those dead police officers.

    Strawman argument aside, what are the logical parallels?

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