And you probably blame Obama to fit your own narrative and pre-made conclusion. To go from 22% bad in '09 to 69% bad now, reflects the racism that's come to the surface. If we had McCain/Romey, that racism would've been there, just less so at the surface. A black president can be a challenge to white privilege, so people push back.
white privilege ? and blame Obama ?.......always the race card, it that all you have ?
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I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
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I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
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Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,343
I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
I can ignore all that but when people try to convince me that the world is round (bah!) and that the earth is not the center of the universe (blasphemy!), well that just frosts me!
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I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ? serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !
I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ? serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !
Godfather.
I know! It's crazy. I mean, it's just disgusting reading this...
"I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.
"I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.
"We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.
"Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."
I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ? serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !
Godfather.
I know! It's crazy. I mean, it's just disgusting reading this...
"I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.
"I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.
"We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.
"Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."
nice ! but I'm talking about what has been happening over the last 7 years, and yes I read your cut and paste...very nice !
I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ? serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !
Godfather.
I know! It's crazy. I mean, it's just disgusting reading this...
"I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.
"I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.
"We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.
"Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."
nice ! but I'm talking about what has been happening over the last 7 years, and yes I read your cut and paste...very nice !
I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ? serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !
Godfather.
I know! It's crazy. I mean, it's just disgusting reading this...
"I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.
"I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.
"We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.
"Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."
nice ! but I'm talking about what has been happening over the last 7 years, and yes I read your cut and paste...very nice !
I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ? serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !
Godfather.
I know! It's crazy. I mean, it's just disgusting reading this...
"I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.
"I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.
"We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.
"Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."
nice ! but I'm talking about what has been happening over the last 7 years, and yes I read your cut and paste...very nice !
How is Obama to blame? Because he said Trayvon Martin couldve been his son? That empowered the BLM movement so much that they had to continue to commit crimes?
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html Interesting, so 1716 officers killed during Reagan's administration, and 1091 the first 7 years of Obama's presidency. I wish Obama would stop the divisive rhetoric, he is putting our officers lives in danger at unprecedented levels!
At the end of the day, the only person that is responsible for or "caused" the Dallas shooting is the asshat that did the shooting. We can be angry with, disagree with, dislike others and their opinions and still choose not resort to mass murder. It was his personal choice. Rhetoric from Obama increasing tension or not, it does not give someone the right to shoot up police or vise versa. The guy was a sick fuck, period. We've got to start holding individuals responsible for their individual actions. 99% of us live in peace, not being violent or shooting each other up regardless of our differences. It's good to keep that in mind while looking through a media microscope.
I agree, and at this point I'm just really starting to wonder why so many of these mass shooters are US vets. Is the military dropping the ball somewhere? Are these attacks all attributable to PTSD? Or some other "thing" that is caused by their time in the military, aside from training to solve problems with guns?? If some kind of common thread there can be found, then perhaps something can be done about prevention. God knows how many more US vets are having thoughts of mass shootings right now, for whatever reason.
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And you probably blame Obama to fit your own narrative and pre-made conclusion. To go from 22% bad in '09 to 69% bad now, reflects the racism that's come to the surface. If we had McCain/Romey, that racism would've been there, just less so at the surface. A black president can be a challenge to white privilege, so people push back.
white privilege ? and blame Obama ?.......always the race card, it that all you have ?
Godfather.
Crazy me, talking about racism in response to you're linked article talking about race relations. Now back on task! Whatever that is.
I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ? serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !
Godfather.
Hahaha Reagan, who supported the South African apartheid regime, an openly, institutionally racist government that literally placed black people as second class citizens. Yeah, you would miss him wouldn't you lol
I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ? serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !
Godfather.
Hahaha Reagan, who supported the South African apartheid regime, an openly, institutionally racist government that literally placed black people as second class citizens. Yeah, you would miss him wouldn't you lol
much better than the last few presidents we had so far.
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html Interesting, so 1716 officers killed during Reagan's administration, and 1091 the first 7 years of Obama's presidency. I wish Obama would stop the divisive rhetoric, he is putting our officers lives in danger at unprecedented levels!
Well good stuff doing the math. I was too lazy.
Still miss Reagan, GF? Do you long for the days when cops were getting killed more often?
I can't believe there is actually a debate going on here claiming Obama's action/speeches being responsible for the shootings in Dallas. This place sometimes ventures into some very strange and absurd dark corners. I mean, of course anyone here is allowed to believe what what they believe but... really?
Brian Brian Brian where have you been? There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide. It goes on and on and on
really ??? you can't see or have heard the encouragement Obama has given to BLM and the BP ? serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !
Godfather.
Hahaha Reagan, who supported the South African apartheid regime, an openly, institutionally racist government that literally placed black people as second class citizens. Yeah, you would miss him wouldn't you lol
He also refused to say or do anything about HIV/AIDS
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html Interesting, so 1716 officers killed during Reagan's administration, and 1091 the first 7 years of Obama's presidency. I wish Obama would stop the divisive rhetoric, he is putting our officers lives in danger at unprecedented levels!
Well good stuff doing the math. I was too lazy.
Still miss Reagan, GF? Do you long for the days when cops were getting killed more often?
actually I'm a move forward person my statement was just me kidding around. but I do wonder why are there more mass shooting today more than any time in our history ?
So where's the parrellel again? You know, Obama's actual words from a reputable source followed by actual violence. Comparing the two without any actual facts is disingenuous. Again, BS you stretch to spread your BS. Palin used terms like "target" and imagery of Giffords in a cross hair. Please link me to Obama's similar rhetoric and/or imagery.
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There are people in America and on here who believe that President Obama is to blame for these horrific occurrences. Just like there are people in here that think man has never walked on the moon, that Israel is to blame for 9/11, and that the Jews control all of the banking and financial operations worldwide.
It goes on and on and on
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serious ? again the blame goes directly to the criminal for sure but there is a lack of responsibility in some of Obama's speeches' and comments and the desperate and week will take his words and act on them........lord I miss Reagan !
Godfather.
"I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.
"I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.
"We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.
"Today, on the Lord’s day, all of us stand united in prayer with the people of Baton Rouge, with the police officers who’ve been wounded, and with the grieving families of the fallen. May God bless them all."
and yes I read your cut and paste...very nice !
Godfather.
Godfather.
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html
we will find a way, we will find our place
Interesting, so 1716 officers killed during Reagan's administration, and 1091 the first 7 years of Obama's presidency. I wish Obama would stop the divisive rhetoric, he is putting our officers lives in danger at unprecedented levels!
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Yeah, you would miss him wouldn't you lol
Godfather.
Still miss Reagan, GF? Do you long for the days when cops were getting killed more often?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rep-gabrielle-giffords-blood-sarah-palin-hands-putting-cross-hair-district-article-1.149099
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/06/14/obama-if-they-bring-a-knife-to-the-fight-we-bring-a-gun/
but I do wonder why are there more mass shooting today more than any time in our history ?
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