Obama's actions/speech caused the Dallas shooting...

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237

    Here's a list of some of the mass shootings that happened while dick cheney and karl rove were in charge...

    1) October 2002 - a series of sniper-style shootings occurred in Washington DC, leaving 10 dead.

    2) August 2003 - in Chicago, a laid-off worker shot and killed six of his former workmates.

    3) November 2004 - in Birchwood, Wisconsin, a hunter killed six other hunters and wounded two others after an argument with them.

    4) March 2005 - a man opened fire at a church service in Brookfield, Wisconsin, killing seven people.

    5) October 2006 - a truck driver killed five schoolgirls and seriously wounded six others in a school in Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania before taking his own life.

    6) April 2007 - student Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people and wounded 15 others at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia, before shooting himself, making it the deadliest mass shooting in the United States after 2000.

    7) August 2007 - Three Delaware State University students were shot and killed in “execution style” by a 28-year-old and two 15-year-old boys. A fourth student was shot and stabbed.

    8) September 2007 - A freshman student at Delaware State University shot and wounded two other students at a campus dining hall.

    9) December 2007 - a 20-year-old man killed nine people and injured five others in a shopping center in Omaha, Nebraska.

    10) December 2007 - a woman and her boyfriend shot dead six members of her family on Christmas Eve in Carnation, Washington.

    11) February 2008 - a shooter who is still at large tied up and shot six women at a suburban clothing store in Chicago, leaving five of them dead and the remaining one injured.

    12) February 2008 - a man opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, killing five students and wounding 16 others before laying down his weapon and surrendering.

    13) July 2008 – A former student shot three people in a computer lab at South Mountain Community College, Phoenix, Arizona.

    14) September 2008 - a mentally ill man who was released from jail one month earlier shot eight people in Alger, Washington, leaving six of them dead and the rest two wounded.

    15) October 2008 - Several men in a car drove up to a dormitory at the University of Central Arkansas and opened fire, killing two students and injuring a third person.

    16) December 2008 - a man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opened fire at a family Christmas party in Covina, California, then set fire on the house and killed himself. Police later found nine people dead in the debris of the house.

    Wow, those shootings seem to get lost in all that was happening under W. That first shooting was the DC sniper.....his first victim was killed a block from where I worked I sat in the very same bench the woman was killed I was eating ice cream.

    I hope the PJC don't think these kinds of mass shootings will end under the next President whether it's Hillary or Trump. So what does that tell ya it has nothing to do with who's the President.

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  • Free
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    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    You do have to ask yourself, why have all these massacres been so frequent under Obama s presidency?

    Really you can ask that and no mention of the weapons used ...
    Same weapons were there under W.
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    You do have to ask yourself, why have all these massacres been so frequent under Obama s presidency?

    Really you can ask that and no mention of the weapons used ...
    Same weapons were there under W.
    So the massacres started happening when Obama got elected ok got it ..
    Man the press makes it seems it s happened a lot more under his watch!!! By the way, I voted for him twice.
    ...and everything the media tells you must be true, right? Sorta like everything you read on the Internet is true, too.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited July 2016
    g under p said:

    Here's a list of some of the mass shootings that happened while dick cheney and karl rove were in charge...

    1) October 2002 - a series of sniper-style shootings occurred in Washington DC, leaving 10 dead.

    2) August 2003 - in Chicago, a laid-off worker shot and killed six of his former workmates.

    3) November 2004 - in Birchwood, Wisconsin, a hunter killed six other hunters and wounded two others after an argument with them.

    4) March 2005 - a man opened fire at a church service in Brookfield, Wisconsin, killing seven people.

    5) October 2006 - a truck driver killed five schoolgirls and seriously wounded six others in a school in Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania before taking his own life.

    6) April 2007 - student Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people and wounded 15 others at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia, before shooting himself, making it the deadliest mass shooting in the United States after 2000.

    7) August 2007 - Three Delaware State University students were shot and killed in “execution style” by a 28-year-old and two 15-year-old boys. A fourth student was shot and stabbed.

    8) September 2007 - A freshman student at Delaware State University shot and wounded two other students at a campus dining hall.

    9) December 2007 - a 20-year-old man killed nine people and injured five others in a shopping center in Omaha, Nebraska.

    10) December 2007 - a woman and her boyfriend shot dead six members of her family on Christmas Eve in Carnation, Washington.

    11) February 2008 - a shooter who is still at large tied up and shot six women at a suburban clothing store in Chicago, leaving five of them dead and the remaining one injured.

    12) February 2008 - a man opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, killing five students and wounding 16 others before laying down his weapon and surrendering.

    13) July 2008 – A former student shot three people in a computer lab at South Mountain Community College, Phoenix, Arizona.

    14) September 2008 - a mentally ill man who was released from jail one month earlier shot eight people in Alger, Washington, leaving six of them dead and the rest two wounded.

    15) October 2008 - Several men in a car drove up to a dormitory at the University of Central Arkansas and opened fire, killing two students and injuring a third person.

    16) December 2008 - a man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opened fire at a family Christmas party in Covina, California, then set fire on the house and killed himself. Police later found nine people dead in the debris of the house.

    Wow, those shootings seem to get lost in all that was happening under W. That first shooting was the DC sniper.....his first victim was killed a block from where I worked I sat in the very same bench the woman was killed I was eating ice cream.

    I hope the PJC don't think these kinds of mass shootings will end under the next President whether it's Hillary or Trump. So what does that tell ya it has nothing to do with who's the President.

    Peace



  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    What an absurd notion.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599

    What an absurd notion.

    Why is it absurd?

    I'm really curious as to why people think this way or that.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    yes Obama(his speeches' and comments) have contributed to strained race relations since he's has been elected but also I blame the week minded people who act on what he has said to the public (if I had a son he would look like Trayvon) just because stupid happens to have a leading roll in our society does not mean we should follow him or the moron up-sprouts like Sharpton and Jackson, as president he publicly made statements that gave law enforcement as a whole a bad image and by doing so he gave his weak minded followers a excuse to kill...in their weak minds.

    Godfather.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,792

    yes Obama(his speeches' and comments) have contributed to strained race relations since he's has been elected but also I blame the week minded people who act on what he has said to the public (if I had a son he would look like Trayvon) just because stupid happens to have a leading roll in our society does not mean we should follow him or the moron up-sprouts like Sharpton and Jackson, as president he publicly made statements that gave law enforcement as a whole a bad image and by doing so he gave his weak minded followers a excuse to kill...in their weak minds.

    Godfather.

    Oh boy ok talk about a weak mind ...
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    yes Obama(his speeches' and comments) have contributed to strained race relations since he's has been elected but also I blame the week minded people who act on what he has said to the public (if I had a son he would look like Trayvon) just because stupid happens to have a leading roll in our society does not mean we should follow him or the moron up-sprouts like Sharpton and Jackson, as president he publicly made statements that gave law enforcement as a whole a bad image and by doing so he gave his weak minded followers a excuse to kill...in their weak minds.

    Godfather.

    Oh boy ok talk about a weak mind ...
    are you stoned again ?.. so you give a free pass to the radicals because Obama sympathizes with their "movement" ?????????? easy on the "Kronic" dude LOL !!!!

    Godfather.

  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,294
    "Race relations have gotten worse under Obama!"

    Well.....uh.....yeah! Don't things always have to get ugly before they're fixed? Lincoln didn't just say "Umm.....hey southerners, free those slaves" and magically slavery was over. MLK didn't just do one march and segregation was done, no, many black people were killed for protesting and extremist groups like the Black Panthers were formed. Give me one example of race relations in this country improving by white people saying "yeah sure we'll start accepting that." It's really sad that every step we've taken to improve black/white relations in this country has to involve stuff like this happening before there is any real change that gets made. But history shows that, as fucked up as it may sound, all of this might actually be a step in the right direction.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    yes Obama(his speeches' and comments) have contributed to strained race relations since he's has been elected but also I blame the week minded people who act on what he has said to the public (if I had a son he would look like Trayvon) just because stupid happens to have a leading roll in our society does not mean we should follow him or the moron up-sprouts like Sharpton and Jackson, as president he publicly made statements that gave law enforcement as a whole a bad image and by doing so he gave his weak minded followers a excuse to kill...in their weak minds.

    Godfather.

    Those moron up-sprouts, as you call them, have helped more people through hard times in their lifetimes than you would in 10 lifetimes. But, they were mostly black people so I can see why that bothers you.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    RiotZact said:

    "Race relations have gotten worse under Obama!"

    Well.....uh.....yeah! Don't things always have to get ugly before they're fixed? Lincoln didn't just say "Umm.....hey southerners, free those slaves" and magically slavery was over. MLK didn't just do one march and segregation was done, no, many black people were killed for protesting and extremist groups like the Black Panthers were formed. Give me one example of race relations in this country improving by white people saying "yeah sure we'll start accepting that." It's really sad that every step we've taken to improve black/white relations in this country has to involve stuff like this happening before there is any real change that gets made. But history shows that, as fucked up as it may sound, all of this might actually be a step in the right direction.

    This is thought-provoking. Reminds me of "without destruction, there can be no reconstruction" - attributed to Shiva, I think.
  • Free
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    yes Obama(his speeches' and comments) have contributed to strained race relations since he's has been elected but also I blame the week minded people who act on what he has said to the public (if I had a son he would look like Trayvon) just because stupid happens to have a leading roll in our society does not mean we should follow him or the moron up-sprouts like Sharpton and Jackson, as president he publicly made statements that gave law enforcement as a whole a bad image and by doing so he gave his weak minded followers a excuse to kill...in their weak minds.

    Godfather.

    Oh boy ok talk about a weak mind ...
    I was gonna write the exact same thing Jose, but I decided not to go there w/ a Fox News watcher. :lol:
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    You do have to ask yourself, why have all these massacres been so frequent under Obama s presidency?

    Really you can ask that and no mention of the weapons used ...
    Same weapons were there under W.
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    You do have to ask yourself, why have all these massacres been so frequent under Obama s presidency?

    Really you can ask that and no mention of the weapons used ...
    Same weapons were there under W.
    So the massacres started happening when Obama got elected ok got it ..
    the number of massacres have increased under his term, not quite doubled but close.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    yes Obama(his speeches' and comments) have contributed to strained race relations since he's has been elected but also I blame the week minded people who act on what he has said to the public (if I had a son he would look like Trayvon) just because stupid happens to have a leading roll in our society does not mean we should follow him or the moron up-sprouts like Sharpton and Jackson, as president he publicly made statements that gave law enforcement as a whole a bad image and by doing so he gave his weak minded followers a excuse to kill...in their weak minds.

    Godfather.

    Those moron up-sprouts, as you call them, have helped more people through hard times in their lifetimes than you would in 10 lifetimes. But, they were mostly black people so I can see why that bothers you.
    so you are a supporter of Sharpton and Jackson ? ....tell me, what kind of goat do you have ?

    Godfather.

  • Bentleyspop
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  • Cliffy6745
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    rgambs said:

    yes Obama(his speeches' and comments) have contributed to strained race relations since he's has been elected but also I blame the week minded people who act on what he has said to the public (if I had a son he would look like Trayvon) just because stupid happens to have a leading roll in our society does not mean we should follow him or the moron up-sprouts like Sharpton and Jackson, as president he publicly made statements that gave law enforcement as a whole a bad image and by doing so he gave his weak minded followers a excuse to kill...in their weak minds.

    Godfather.

    Those moron up-sprouts, as you call them, have helped more people through hard times in their lifetimes than you would in 10 lifetimes. But, they were mostly black people so I can see why that bothers you.
    so you are a supporter of Sharpton and Jackson ? ....tell me, what kind of goat do you have ?

    Godfather.

    You know you are able to apply a little critical thinking in your life. That just because someone tells you something, it is not a fact. You can respect some of the things they have done in their careers, especially Jackson, while disagreeing with some (or even many) of their tactics/philosophies.

    That would take a bit of self-reflection though, which I am pretty sure is well beyond your capacity...

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    And you probably blame Obama to fit your own narrative and pre-made conclusion. To go from 22% bad in '09 to 69% bad now, reflects the racism that's come to the surface. If we had McCain/Romey, that racism would've been there, just less so at the surface. A black president can be a challenge to white privilege, so people push back.
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,637
    RiotZact said:

    "Race relations have gotten worse under Obama!"

    To whatever degree that is true, correlation does not necessarily equal causation. America was not ready for a black president and there's a ton of anger about it. That he (well not he, any black person) is President has had an indirect role but cannot be held responsible for the white anger that has perpetuated since. I wish he'd lost in 2008; I really do. We were not ready and probably never will be.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    rgambs said:

    yes Obama(his speeches' and comments) have contributed to strained race relations since he's has been elected but also I blame the week minded people who act on what he has said to the public (if I had a son he would look like Trayvon) just because stupid happens to have a leading roll in our society does not mean we should follow him or the moron up-sprouts like Sharpton and Jackson, as president he publicly made statements that gave law enforcement as a whole a bad image and by doing so he gave his weak minded followers a excuse to kill...in their weak minds.

    Godfather.

    Those moron up-sprouts, as you call them, have helped more people through hard times in their lifetimes than you would in 10 lifetimes. But, they were mostly black people so I can see why that bothers you.
    so you are a supporter of Sharpton and Jackson ? ....tell me, what kind of goat do you have ?

    Godfather.

    You know you are able to apply a little critical thinking in your life. That just because someone tells you something, it is not a fact. You can respect some of the things they have done in their careers, especially Jackson, while disagreeing with some (or even many) of their tactics/philosophies.

    That would take a bit of self-reflection though, which I am pretty sure is well beyond your capacity...

    good grief... they say money can't buy common sense, what a shame.

    Godfather.