Muslim Man Arrested In Cleveland For What He Was Wearing...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/04/world/middleeast/emirates-issues-travel-warning-after-man-in-robe-is-mistaken-for-isis-terrorist-in-ohio.html?_r=0

The man was wearing traditional middle eastern dress and was labeled a terrorist, cops called and brought him down...

Is this where we are now? Any person wearing a keffiyeh and dasha is a terrorist?
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  • EM194007
    EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    It's because of this.

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something

    Just takes one person to make a call. Could happen to anyone these days.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    EM194007 said:

    It's because of this.

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something

    Just takes one person to make a call. Could happen to anyone these days.

    I'm going to call out ignorance on this. The man was wearing traditional clothing...
  • EM194007
    EM194007 Posts: 2,827

    EM194007 said:

    It's because of this.

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something

    Just takes one person to make a call. Could happen to anyone these days.

    I'm going to call out ignorance on this. The man was wearing traditional clothing...
    Yes, it most likely was. But your going to get a lot more people calling and saying there is something wrong with "said" person/s, because of the threat of something could be wrong. Welcome to the new world were living in. Sucks, that's for sure.

    Need to change you thread title, this guy was never arrested, he was just detained.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    ^well said. We all give up some of our rights when shit goes bad. Our privacy is deteriorating just as our safety.
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  • I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,963

    I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

    Sometimes you push your trolling bullshit a little too far.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited July 2016
    But he was NOT overheard speaking about ISIS. I have a BIG problem with the fact that some fucking idiot simply sees someone wearing middle-eastern clothing and that person is then tackled to the ground and held against his will. This is completely fucked up to me. If there had been any suspicious behaviour, that's one thing, but there wasn't. None at all. People who make calls like this are really stupid racist assholes as far as I'm concerned.

    PJfan, why are you "glad" this happened?? Unless you think it might raise awareness about how someone just looking middle eastern isn't a good reason to call the cops, I don't see how any decent person could be glad this happened.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305

    I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

    Did you read the article? The man spoke little English yet the hotel clerk thought he was "pledging allegiance to ISIS" while he spoke on the phone in Arabic? You think an actual terrorist would be that stupid?

    At least the mayor and police department acknowledged screwing up.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited July 2016

    I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

    Did you read the article? The man spoke little English yet the hotel clerk thought he was "pledging allegiance to ISIS" while he spoke on the phone in Arabic? You think an actual terrorist would be that stupid?

    At least the mayor and police department acknowledged screwing up.
    I did read the article.
    Doesn't matter. The police had know way of knowing when receiving the call.
    People make false allegations all the time and they all have to be investigated in case one slips away.

    and yes terrorists are that stupid

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited July 2016
    And a very important quote from the article btw:

    “Guns were drawn,” the mayor said. “When you make a false accusation, you put that person’s life in danger.” Mr. Menhali, he added, “was 100 percent innocent.”


    Would all these morons feel proud of themselves for being racist and paranoid if their indefensible accusations resulted in the death of an innocent person??? Because that is a very real risk when they do shit like this.

    Oh, and as if this weren't bad enough, did you catch this little kick in the butt? :lol:
    "He said he was in Ohio because he was visiting the Cleveland Clinic for a medical procedure. He had been looking for a hotel room because the owner of the apartment where he was staying in Cleveland wanted to rent it out for the Republican National Convention."
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    PJ_Soul said:

    And a very important quote from the article btw:

    “Guns were drawn,” the mayor said. “When you make a false accusation, you put that person’s life in danger.” Mr. Menhali, he added, “was 100 percent innocent.”


    Would all this morons feel proud of themselves for being racist and paranoid if their indefensible accusations resulted in the death of an innocent person??? Because that is a very real risk when they do shit like this.

    Well said pjsoul!

    I agree that the cops were right in what they did but to the person that called in, shame on you.

    Every foreigner is going to be subject to this type of behavior...
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682

    PJ_Soul said:

    And a very important quote from the article btw:

    “Guns were drawn,” the mayor said. “When you make a false accusation, you put that person’s life in danger.” Mr. Menhali, he added, “was 100 percent innocent.”


    Would all this morons feel proud of themselves for being racist and paranoid if their indefensible accusations resulted in the death of an innocent person??? Because that is a very real risk when they do shit like this.

    Well said pjsoul!

    I agree that the cops were right in what they did but to the person that called in, shame on you.

    Every foreigner is going to be subject to this type of behavior...
    Oh not every foreigner, just those who have the temerity to be Muslim
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305


    Well said pjsoul!

    I agree that the cops were right in what they did but to the person that called in, shame on you.

    Every foreigner is going to be subject to this type of behavior...

    Oh not every foreigner, just those who have the temerity to be Muslim
    Unfortunately true.

    I would think a hotel's staff would see more visitors from other countries than most businesses.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited July 2016

    I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

    Did you read the article? The man spoke little English yet the hotel clerk thought he was "pledging allegiance to ISIS" while he spoke on the phone in Arabic? You think an actual terrorist would be that stupid?

    At least the mayor and police department acknowledged screwing up.
    I did read the article.
    Doesn't matter. The police had know way of knowing when receiving the call.
    People make false allegations all the time and they all have to be investigated in case one slips away.

    and yes terrorists are that stupid

    Are you drunk today?

    The issue is not the police. The issue is the people calling 911 for no reason and initiating a take-down of someone who is literally doing nothing.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

    Did you read the article? The man spoke little English yet the hotel clerk thought he was "pledging allegiance to ISIS" while he spoke on the phone in Arabic? You think an actual terrorist would be that stupid?

    At least the mayor and police department acknowledged screwing up.
    I did read the article.
    Doesn't matter. The police had know way of knowing when receiving the call.
    People make false allegations all the time and they all have to be investigated in case one slips away.

    and yes terrorists are that stupid

    Are you drunk today?

    The issue is not the police. The issue is the people calling 911 for no reason and initiating a take-down of someone who is literally doing nothing.
    I wish.

    The police is another issue to this whole story as well.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,771

    I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

    Did you read the article? The man spoke little English yet the hotel clerk thought he was "pledging allegiance to ISIS" while he spoke on the phone in Arabic? You think an actual terrorist would be that stupid?

    At least the mayor and police department acknowledged screwing up.
    And this clerk and any other dumbfuck here knows fluent arabic to know that "pledge allegiance to isis" garbage?
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited July 2016
    mickeyrat said:

    I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

    Did you read the article? The man spoke little English yet the hotel clerk thought he was "pledging allegiance to ISIS" while he spoke on the phone in Arabic? You think an actual terrorist would be that stupid?

    At least the mayor and police department acknowledged screwing up.
    And this clerk and any other dumbfuck here knows fluent arabic to know that "pledge allegiance to isis" garbage?
    You can pledge allegiance to ISIS out loud with two words.
    Many Islamic terrorists are on record of having said two words before committing atrocities.

    Unless you live under a rock you know what two words those are.
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,771

    mickeyrat said:

    I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

    Did you read the article? The man spoke little English yet the hotel clerk thought he was "pledging allegiance to ISIS" while he spoke on the phone in Arabic? You think an actual terrorist would be that stupid?

    At least the mayor and police department acknowledged screwing up.
    And this clerk and any other dumbfuck here knows fluent arabic to know that "pledge allegiance to isis" garbage?
    You can pledge allegiance to ISIS out loud with two words.
    Many Islamic terrorists are on record of having said two words before committing atrocities.

    Unless you live under a rock you know what two words those are.
    Allahu akbar? Go fuck yourself douchebag.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

    Did you read the article? The man spoke little English yet the hotel clerk thought he was "pledging allegiance to ISIS" while he spoke on the phone in Arabic? You think an actual terrorist would be that stupid?

    At least the mayor and police department acknowledged screwing up.
    And this clerk and any other dumbfuck here knows fluent arabic to know that "pledge allegiance to isis" garbage?
    You can pledge allegiance to ISIS out loud with two words.
    Many Islamic terrorists are on record of having said two words before committing atrocities.

    Unless you live under a rock you know what two words those are.
    Allahu akbar? Go fuck yourself douchebag.
    Ok then.
  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    I am glad that this happened.
    ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
    If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
    He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

    So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
    So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

    Did you read the article? The man spoke little English yet the hotel clerk thought he was "pledging allegiance to ISIS" while he spoke on the phone in Arabic? You think an actual terrorist would be that stupid?

    At least the mayor and police department acknowledged screwing up.
    And this clerk and any other dumbfuck here knows fluent arabic to know that "pledge allegiance to isis" garbage?
    You can pledge allegiance to ISIS out loud with two words.
    Many Islamic terrorists are on record of having said two words before committing atrocities.

    Unless you live under a rock you know what two words those are.
    Allahu akbar? Go fuck yourself douchebag.
    Geezuz man.

    Way to kick it up a couple notches.
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