Muslim Man Arrested In Cleveland For What He Was Wearing...

brianlux

Atrocious incident, awful thread degeneration. Par for the course? I hope not.

dudeman

One more example of how not to treat your fellow human beings.

Who Princess

I guess you're not aware that Allahu akbar means "God is great," not "I pledge support to ISIS." You're a lot more likely to hear an Arabic speaker say it when they get good news, they congratulate someone, or their favorite team scores a goal. In another life, I taught English to Arabic students and they said it all the time, including when they got a good grade or were talking about everyday things.

jnimhaoileoin

Who Princess said:

I guess you're not aware that Allahu akbar means "God is great," not "I pledge support to ISIS." You're a lot more likely to hear an Arabic speaker say it when they get good news, they congratulate someone, or their favorite team scores a goal. In another life, I taught English to Arabic students and they said it all the time, including when they got a good grade or were talking about everyday things.

Thank you for bringing some sanity to proceedings, though I suspect that once again it was a case of feigned ignorance on the part of our resident troll

lukin2006

It's possible the whole situation could have been handled better ... but really he was detained for 10 minutes, I suspect the police detain and question people all day everyday, that I assume is part of their job, be proactive before bad happens. As for the hotel clerk she or he is only doing what the media and politicians have been preaching for the last 15 years ... report anything suspicious ... was this guy suspicious? Only the clerk knows. Both the mayor and chief of police both apologized. Sometimes you take your apology and move on. Even though the thousands of other people detained daily don't get personnel apology.

qontheboard

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mickeyrat said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mickeyrat said:

Who Princess said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

I am glad that this happened.
ISIS supporters come in all colours, shapes and sexes.
If he was allegedly overheard speaking his allegiance to ISIS while in a public space with many people I would want it to be investigated quickly as well to make sure he wasn't about to do something after making his final pledge.
He just happened to be wearing clothes like that. The response would be no different say if you are overheard taking about bombs or hijacking at an airport.

So tough shit for this guy. It happened move on.
So OP the world has always been one of being punished by false allegations. Some never even get disproved.

Did you read the article? The man spoke little English yet the hotel clerk thought he was "pledging allegiance to ISIS" while he spoke on the phone in Arabic? You think an actual terrorist would be that stupid?

At least the mayor and police department acknowledged screwing up.

And this clerk and any other dumbfuck here knows fluent arabic to know that "pledge allegiance to isis" garbage?

You can pledge allegiance to ISIS out loud with two words.
Many Islamic terrorists are on record of having said two words before committing atrocities.

Unless you live under a rock you know what two words those are.

Allahu akbar? Go fuck yourself douchebag.

Geezuz man.

Way to kick it up a couple notches.

If it walks like a duck...

gimmesometruth27

i said allahu akbar when i almost wrecked my jeep yesterday.

does that mean i unknowlingly pledged allegiance to isis?

apparently we fear what we don't understand.

jnimhaoileoin

gimmesometruth27 said:

i said allahu akbar when i almost wrecked my jeep yesterday.

does that mean i unknowlingly pledged allegiance to isis?

apparently we fear what we don't understand.

That....and what the media tells us to fear

tempo_n_groove

lukin2006 said:

It's possible the whole situation could have been handled better ... but really he was detained for 10 minutes, I suspect the police detain and question people all day everyday, that I assume is part of their job, be proactive before bad happens. As for the hotel clerk she or he is only doing what the media and politicians have been preaching for the last 15 years ... report anything suspicious ... was this guy suspicious? Only the clerk knows. Both the mayor and chief of police both apologized. Sometimes you take your apology and move on. Even though the thousands of other people detained daily don't get personnel apology.

The cops were acting accordingly. They can only go by what the dispatcher tells them and have no way of knowing if he's an average Joe or a terrorist. Cops get a pass from me.
The apologies from officials were nice, won't happen often though.

I really hope that we end up living in fear, I really don't...

Bentleyspop

gimmesometruth27 said:

i said allahu akbar when i almost wrecked my jeep yesterday.

does that mean i unknowlingly pledged allegiance to isis?

apparently we fear what we don't understand.

Exactly
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal to a christian saying glory be to god
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal to a christian saying thank you lord

So much damn fear, hate, and ignorance in this world.

gimmesometruth27

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i said allahu akbar when i almost wrecked my jeep yesterday.

does that mean i unknowlingly pledged allegiance to isis?

apparently we fear what we don't understand.

Exactly
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal to a christian saying glory be to god
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal yo a christian saying thank you lord

So much damn fear, hate, and ignorance in this world.

with so much ignorance in our society and in our world sometimes i am ashamed to be a human being.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i said allahu akbar when i almost wrecked my jeep yesterday.

does that mean i unknowlingly pledged allegiance to isis?

apparently we fear what we don't understand.

Exactly
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal to a christian saying glory be to god
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal yo a christian saying thank you lord

So much damn fear, hate, and ignorance in this world.

with so much ignorance in our society and in our world sometimes i am ashamed to be a human being.

Melodramatic.

I'd be more ashamed after reading of mass murder than I would be hearing of some guy detained a bit for acting suspiciously- even though he wasn't from what we have read. There's much greater ignorance out there that doesn't draw as much more ire from many here.

People on this board and elsewhere were questioning why neighbours of that twat in California that shot up his work place in the name of Allah hadn't reported his suspiciousness.

A person simply cannot win under the circumstances we have. It's probably best to say nothing and accept mass murder as it happens lest you be called an intolerant fool.

Don't get me wrong... it's shitty this guy was detained, but this event is international news? Really?

jnimhaoileoin

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i said allahu akbar when i almost wrecked my jeep yesterday.

does that mean i unknowlingly pledged allegiance to isis?

apparently we fear what we don't understand.

Exactly
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal to a christian saying glory be to god
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal yo a christian saying thank you lord

So much damn fear, hate, and ignorance in this world.

with so much ignorance in our society and in our world sometimes i am ashamed to be a human being.

Melodramatic.

I'd be more ashamed after reading of mass murder than I would be hearing of some guy detained a bit for acting suspiciously- even though he wasn't from what we have read. There's much greater ignorance out there that doesn't draw as much more ire from many here.

People on this board and elsewhere were questioning why neighbours of that twat in California that shot up his work place in the name of Allah hadn't reported his suspiciousness.

A person simply cannot win under the circumstances we have. It's probably best to say nothing and accept mass murder as it happens lest you be called an intolerant fool.

Don't get me wrong... it's shitty this guy was detained, but this event is international news? Really?

I suppose it's deemed an important story as it represents a growing trend of the persecution of innocent Muslims?

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i said allahu akbar when i almost wrecked my jeep yesterday.

does that mean i unknowlingly pledged allegiance to isis?

apparently we fear what we don't understand.

Exactly
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal to a christian saying glory be to god
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal yo a christian saying thank you lord

So much damn fear, hate, and ignorance in this world.

with so much ignorance in our society and in our world sometimes i am ashamed to be a human being.

Melodramatic.

I'd be more ashamed after reading of mass murder than I would be hearing of some guy detained a bit for acting suspiciously- even though he wasn't from what we have read. There's much greater ignorance out there that doesn't draw as much more ire from many here.

People on this board and elsewhere were questioning why neighbours of that twat in California that shot up his work place in the name of Allah hadn't reported his suspiciousness.

A person simply cannot win under the circumstances we have. It's probably best to say nothing and accept mass murder as it happens lest you be called an intolerant fool.

Don't get me wrong... it's shitty this guy was detained, but this event is international news? Really?

it wouldn't be melodramatic if this was a black person who had been detained for "acting suspciously". why should it be swept under the rug when the person is arabic?

everyone needs to calm the fuck down and stop listening to glen beck.

I honestly have felt the same as gimme sometimes. I think, if there are actually aliens out there, and they can monitor our behaviour, can you imagine how fucking stupid we look to a third party?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

jnimhaoileoin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i said allahu akbar when i almost wrecked my jeep yesterday.

does that mean i unknowlingly pledged allegiance to isis?

apparently we fear what we don't understand.

Exactly
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal to a christian saying glory be to god
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal yo a christian saying thank you lord

So much damn fear, hate, and ignorance in this world.

with so much ignorance in our society and in our world sometimes i am ashamed to be a human being.

Melodramatic.

I'd be more ashamed after reading of mass murder than I would be hearing of some guy detained a bit for acting suspiciously- even though he wasn't from what we have read. There's much greater ignorance out there that doesn't draw as much more ire from many here.

People on this board and elsewhere were questioning why neighbours of that twat in California that shot up his work place in the name of Allah hadn't reported his suspiciousness.

A person simply cannot win under the circumstances we have. It's probably best to say nothing and accept mass murder as it happens lest you be called an intolerant fool.

Don't get me wrong... it's shitty this guy was detained, but this event is international news? Really?

I suppose it's deemed an important story as it represents a growing trend of the persecution of innocent Muslims?

Yah maybe.

The Istanbul thread has three pages and is set to slip into the MT abyss. This detainment already has two pages.

Edit: forget aliens... do you think anyone in Turkey- including its Muslim population- is looking at this blunder as a shocking event?

jnimhaoileoin

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i said allahu akbar when i almost wrecked my jeep yesterday.

does that mean i unknowlingly pledged allegiance to isis?

apparently we fear what we don't understand.

Exactly
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal to a christian saying glory be to god
A muslim saying Allahu Akbar is equal yo a christian saying thank you lord

So much damn fear, hate, and ignorance in this world.

with so much ignorance in our society and in our world sometimes i am ashamed to be a human being.

Melodramatic.

I'd be more ashamed after reading of mass murder than I would be hearing of some guy detained a bit for acting suspiciously- even though he wasn't from what we have read. There's much greater ignorance out there that doesn't draw as much more ire from many here.

People on this board and elsewhere were questioning why neighbours of that twat in California that shot up his work place in the name of Allah hadn't reported his suspiciousness.

A person simply cannot win under the circumstances we have. It's probably best to say nothing and accept mass murder as it happens lest you be called an intolerant fool.

Don't get me wrong... it's shitty this guy was detained, but this event is international news? Really?

I suppose it's deemed an important story as it represents a growing trend of the persecution of innocent Muslims?

Yah maybe.

The Istanbul thread has three pages and is set to slip into the MT abyss. This detainment already has two pages.

Edit: forget aliens... do you think anyone in Turkey- including its Muslim population- is looking at this blunder as a shocking event?

To be fair, I doubt Turkish news comments on American domestic incidents like this. I wouldn't have heard about it in Ireland if I didn't happen to be on this very US-centric forum

Who Princess

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Don't get me wrong... it's shitty this guy was detained, but this event is international news? Really?

The United Arab Emirates issued a travel warning to its citizens as a result of the incident. That's the international news story.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Who Princess said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Don't get me wrong... it's shitty this guy was detained, but this event is international news? Really?

The United Arab Emirates issued a travel warning to its citizens as a result of the incident. That's the international news story.

That's interesting.

And in all honesty, I can see why. I'm not so sure Arabic travelers would experience physical harm, but I'm pretty sure the US isn't the most welcoming place for them right now.

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Who Princess said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Don't get me wrong... it's shitty this guy was detained, but this event is international news? Really?

The United Arab Emirates issued a travel warning to its citizens as a result of the incident. That's the international news story.

That's interesting.

And in all honesty, I can see why. I'm not so sure Arabic travelers would experience physical harm, but I'm pretty sure the US isn't the most welcoming place for them right now.

I wouldn't go to the states if I even fucking LOOKED arabic. it's the equivalent of a black man moving to the southern states in the early 1900's.

HesCalledDyer

Who Princess said:

I guess you're not aware that Allahu akbar means "God is great," not "I pledge support to ISIS." You're a lot more likely to hear an Arabic speaker say it when they get good news, they congratulate someone, or their favorite team scores a goal. In another life, I taught English to Arabic students and they said it all the time, including when they got a good grade or were talking about everyday things.

Exactly. Imagine white folks having the police called on them and tackled, having their lives put in danger, & arrested every time someone heard them say "Thank God!"