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  • tjk895
    tjk895 Posts: 237
    ldent42 said:

    How is it cheating?

    I'm not saying that to argue, or be hostile, or anything that warrants me getting called names or receiving the same treatment that Sarava got, I'm legitimately asking the question because I don't understand that opinion and I'd like to hear it explained to me, because it's possible I'm missing something.

    I have no knowledge of the 2009 ticketing episode.

    I don't think it's so much that it's cheating but I do think it gives the person an advantage over everyone else. Its a very small advantage but still an advantage.
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  • weekapaug19
    weekapaug19 Posts: 2,293
    He shouldn't have said he was making them random now. This way people doing this would still be trying it for no reason
  • TA243471
    TA243471 The Great Northwest Posts: 1,250
    He may have just said they are going to be random, and really he is leaving it the same. No way to know unless all of you doing it that way, keep doing it that way!!
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    TA243471 said:

    He may have just said they are going to be random, and really he is leaving it the same. No way to know unless all of you doing it that way, keep doing it that way!!

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    mcgruff10 said:

    ldent42 said:

    Sarava said:

    Eek, I was trying to help the person so they have a chance with the rest if us. Didnt intend to piss anyone off. Sorry.

    If it makes you feel better I don't understand why you're getting attacked for it. I never would've thought to do that, so maybe this is some kind of scammer's tip that I don't know about, but it sounds to me like you just figured out a way to F5 the item page. I'm not sure why that makes you a dick or a douche. Try not to take it personally.
    Listen I have bought zero posters since 2013 so I have no dog in this fight but this is a blatant form of cheating hence me calling it a douche move. I m guessing santos had the same line of thinking. Pretty sure people got banned in 09 for doing the same thing with 10c tickets.
    He found a way that was easier and I'm sure a bunch more did too.

    He then offered this info to the PJ world.

    Ease up Mike, he didn't mean no harm.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111

    mcgruff10 said:

    ldent42 said:

    Sarava said:

    Eek, I was trying to help the person so they have a chance with the rest if us. Didnt intend to piss anyone off. Sorry.

    If it makes you feel better I don't understand why you're getting attacked for it. I never would've thought to do that, so maybe this is some kind of scammer's tip that I don't know about, but it sounds to me like you just figured out a way to F5 the item page. I'm not sure why that makes you a dick or a douche. Try not to take it personally.
    Listen I have bought zero posters since 2013 so I have no dog in this fight but this is a blatant form of cheating hence me calling it a douche move. I m guessing santos had the same line of thinking. Pretty sure people got banned in 09 for doing the same thing with 10c tickets.
    He found a way that was easier and I'm sure a bunch more did too.

    He then offered this info to the PJ world.

    Ease up Mike, he didn't mean no harm.
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  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Don't hate the player.....
  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,061
    edited June 2016
    I didn't find this way myself. I read it here a year or two ago... I believe it was someone trying to find out the new items for sale on the 10th before the newsletter email went out or something. That's why I assumed many or most were already doing it, and I just wanted to help out the person who asked how you compete for these fast selling items.

    But in any event, it's nice to know that I'm a dickish doucebag who cheats and forever deserves bad PJ karma. Thanks for the kind words :)
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    Sarava said:

    I didn't find this way myself. I read it here a year or two ago... I believe it was someone trying to find out the new items for sale on the 10th before the newsletter email went out or something. That's why I assumed many or most were already doing it, and I just wanted to help out the person who asked how you compete for these fast selling items.

    But in any event, it's nice to know that I'm a dickish doucebag who cheats and forever deserves bad PJ karma. Thanks for the kind words :)

    I feel like if you thought / knew what you were doing was underhanded you probably wouldn't have shared it so freely. You weren't the only one using this trick, and if I didn't know better, I would think there's a couple people who commented that were doing the same thing and are pissed you just ruined it for them.

    The name calling is unnecessary and disappointing, but the reaction is also par for the course around here. This forum has more cliques than my high school (which is pathetic considering most people on here are almost certainly of adult age, with a significant percentage in their 30s & 40s).
    Combine that with the sad reality of how seriously we all take these poster sales (I'm as guilty of this as anyone else) and I'm surprised the reaction wasn't worse.

    Like ident42 said, try not to take it personally. You apologized more than once for all the feelings you hurt. That's good enough for me.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,851
    The url trick would have not gained much of an advantage here

    Heard worse on the fb groups
  • Eddieshometown
    Eddieshometown Evanston, IL Posts: 986
    Maybe 10c will mix things up and not use the next available item number. I think this gains a small advantage but it's not like the OP was using a bot.
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  • front spacer
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    Sarava said:

    I legit left my desk at 10:57 to go to the bathroom. Came back and it was up and gone. Rats!

    Are people refreshing the forum to see if Santos posts? Or just refreshing the poster page of the goods page? I feel waste more than a second or two, you're SOL

    I went to the poster page, and clicked on the link for the Philly 1 poster. That poster's item number was 4467. Yesterday's Philly 2 poster was item #4468. So I used the same url as the Philly 1 poster, but changed 4467 to 4469, which was obviously going to be today's item number. I had one screen open on this, next to a different page I was randomly surfing on the internet for fun. Every 10-30 seconds, I would go to the poster page click command-r (I'm on a mac). All of the sudden the Owl showed up, and I bought it.
    Pro. Nice job!
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    I guess my tempered sarcasm didn't translate well. Should have included an emoji. My bad
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  • Brane_of_JFK
    Brane_of_JFK Maryland Posts: 1,901
    NSL said:

    KC138045 said:

    Anyone get their Lexington yet?

    Nope and tracking # brings back nothing.
    My Ft. Lauderdale poster has been sitting dorment somewhere with USPS since 5/31. Was supposed to be delivered 6/3. Just filled out a lost mail form.
    That's because UPS Mail Innovations sucks...
  • NSL
    NSL Nashville, TN Posts: 299

    NSL said:

    KC138045 said:

    Anyone get their Lexington yet?

    Nope and tracking # brings back nothing.
    My Ft. Lauderdale poster has been sitting dorment somewhere with USPS since 5/31. Was supposed to be delivered 6/3. Just filled out a lost mail form.
    That's because UPS Mail Innovations sucks...
    Yes it does. This is the first time i've ever had anything shipped that way. The lady on the phone at USPS couldn't find the package because all they know is a shipping label was printed. Just seems really dumb to ship UPS to USPS. I emailed 10c so hopefully I get my money back.
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  • Brane_of_JFK
    Brane_of_JFK Maryland Posts: 1,901
    NSL said:

    NSL said:

    KC138045 said:

    Anyone get their Lexington yet?

    Nope and tracking # brings back nothing.
    My Ft. Lauderdale poster has been sitting dorment somewhere with USPS since 5/31. Was supposed to be delivered 6/3. Just filled out a lost mail form.
    That's because UPS Mail Innovations sucks...
    Yes it does. This is the first time i've ever had anything shipped that way. The lady on the phone at USPS couldn't find the package because all they know is a shipping label was printed. Just seems really dumb to ship UPS to USPS. I emailed 10c so hopefully I get my money back.
    Hope you do as well. I put in an order back in early May for like 3 posters and a few other things in the shop. Got everything except one poster. Tracking stopped at 5/13, called both UPS and USPS, and both denied having the package. Luckily, 10C reshipped, so hopefully whatever mail carrier has it in the end doesn't flub it up....again...
  • tubes10s
    tubes10s Posts: 543
    tjk895 said:

    ldent42 said:

    How is it cheating?

    I'm not saying that to argue, or be hostile, or anything that warrants me getting called names or receiving the same treatment that Sarava got, I'm legitimately asking the question because I don't understand that opinion and I'd like to hear it explained to me, because it's possible I'm missing something.

    I have no knowledge of the 2009 ticketing episode.

    I don't think it's so much that it's cheating but I do think it gives the person an advantage over everyone else. Its a very small advantage but still an advantage.
    Sarava shared info that was nothing more than BASIC INTERNET SURFING 101. There was absolutely no "advantage over everyone else." We are all capable of paying attention to our surroundings, which is all that Sarava was doing. To pretend that Sarava had ANY sort of unfair advantage is insane. There is no way in hell that this should be called cheating, because EVERYONE had equal access to the information that Sarava shared. If you didn't pay attention or didn't notice, that doesn't mean it's "unfair."
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,947
    I get it if the 10 club wants to randomize skus and I think that's a great idea. But the guy wasn't cheating. It was pretty easy to figure if you looked at the url for more than five seconds. Definitely not cheating. If he hacked the system that would be a different story. Nothing liked that happened here. Sometimes it's like a Salem witch trial around here.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    on2legs said:

    I get it if the 10 club wants to randomize skus and I think that's a great idea. But the guy wasn't cheating. It was pretty easy to figure if you looked at the url for more than five seconds. Definitely not cheating. If he hacked the system that would be a different story. Nothing liked that happened here. Sometimes it's like a Salem witch trial around here.

    Agreed.

    I also don't think this is a flipper trying to make $ on eBay, just a Ten clubber trying to get a poster. (AND shared the trick to help other Ten clubbers get their posters - No good deed goes unpunished, eh?)
  • twhite1221
    twhite1221 here, there, everywhere Posts: 99
    Alright so enough about yesterday, what's the guess on today's drop time??
  • andyfarrimond
    andyfarrimond Posts: 1,974

    Alright so enough about yesterday, what's the guess on today's drop time??

    Later time today, to mix things up?