I received 4 of 5 single on Saturday. They were packaged together. Why Who You Are is shipping separately is odd, but it should be here tomorrow. Saturday's delivery was unexpected. I randomly selected one tracking number and was showing no updates. Turns out I picked the wrong single. They chose to use the number for Hail, Hail as tracking for the entire package. I have no idea why.
Also, the Who You Are 7" has the alternate lyrics.
The UK 7s from Yield have thicker sleeves but agreed heavier stock is nice. I have the original Who You Are 7". What are the alternate lyrics you speak of? Was this always the case with the single, never really noticed.
RVM, this new No Code and now the WYA single have one line changed from the original CD/LP/Cass/DL. "Circumstance, Clapping Hands" is now "Avalanche, Falling Fast"
My guess is they have this version marked as Master so when it's been pulled for RVM, or these reissues, they pulled the Avalanche version. I'm guessing the Circumstance version from 1996 was a last minute switch and it wasn't noted as being the master.
RVM, this new No Code and now the WYA single have one line changed from the original CD/LP/Cass/DL. "Circumstance, Clapping Hands" is now "Avalanche, Falling Fast"
My guess is they have this version marked as Master so when it's been pulled for RVM, or these reissues, they pulled the Avalanche version. I'm guessing the Circumstance version from 1996 was a last minute switch and it wasn't noted as being the master.
Would love to get an answer to this. A quirky little mix up.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Yeah, I'm always curious as to how this stuff happens (in regards to digging through an archive and pulling the tapes out), and after Lost Dogs, I'm interested about whether it was intentional or not.
amateur question: Why is Who You Are different on RVM... how many other songs on RVM are different versions? All the "TEN" songs are the remixed ones, right?
Other than WHO (alt lyric) and the Ten remixes (Alive, Black and Once), I think SOLAT is the only other song thats different from what we have heard. Its got a different mix than the one on Singles. E Flo is different but they just used the single mix. That was already out in the world.
I noticed the avalanche line on the 1st listen of the LP. I honestly thought I was just being exposed to the so called "clarity" of the vinyl as if it had always said that. sorry...wrong again MOST of RVM sounds like alternate mixes and alternate takes to me, but WTF do I know?
I'm ashamed to say my RVM is still sealed, never it opened it at the time and then the price soared so wasn't going to after that.
I have the new No Code but might need to pick up the new Who you are 7" as well now. I love quirky little things like this. "Circumstance, Clapping Hands" are the lyrics sung live so it seems like the wrong version was maybe used for RVM and everything since.
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
this is getting ridiculous. No Code is still at warehouse as well as singles. should have spent the extra 3 dollars and bought everything on Amazon . they don't hesitate to ship to texas.
this is getting ridiculous. No Code is still at warehouse as well as singles. should have spent the extra 3 dollars and bought everything on Amazon . they don't hesitate to ship to texas.
and I was sure that Santos was supporting Ted Cruz for President.
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
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this is getting ridiculous. No Code is still at warehouse as well as singles. should have spent the extra 3 dollars and bought everything on Amazon . they don't hesitate to ship to texas.
Exactly. Wish there was a way to just tell 10c to forget about my order.
Chicago, Aug 24, 2009 Noblesville, May 7, 2010 PJ20 Night 1, 2011 Cincinnati, Oct. 1, 2014 Milwaukee, Oct. 20, 2014 Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2016 Wrigley Field, Aug 22, 2016 Wrigley Field, Aug 18, 2018 Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2018 St. Louis, Sept. 18, 2022 Chicago, Sept. 5, 2023 Chicago, Sept. 7, 2023
Still waiting on No Code from 10C...In an effort to try and get all of the inserts i ordered a couple of copies from Amazon on Saturday and they are being delivered tomorrow; both 10C and Amazon orders shipped from Washington State. 10C needs a new shipping partner!
Still waiting on No Code from 10C...In an effort to try and get all of the inserts i ordered a couple of copies from Amazon on Saturday and they are being delivered tomorrow; both 10C and Amazon orders shipped from Washington State. 10C needs a new shipping partner!
I ordered a set from Amazon, got it on release day, and just received the 10C order today.
Ok guys, take it easy. He may be a fellow 10c guy.
Agreed....I just read through some of these responses. Disappointing to say the least. This is the same kind of mean-spirited, school yard crap that I warn my 8-year old daughter to stay clear of.
This guy is just giving his opinion..... comments about him, physically, are completely low class. Would you want your children behaving this way?
Stay positive people!
If a person puts videos of him or herself on the internet, attempting to speak authoritatively about anything, they will eventually face some criticism. The video is hardly positive, it's SUPER critical, and just my opinion, I don't care for his tone or the parade of product. I'm not trolling the guy on his YouTube page or making his life miserable...
He has every right to say what ever he wants critically, every right to voice his opinion. I also have every right to quietly, quickly, and comically disagree with his presentation (as a visual artist) and what he's saying (as a Pearl Jam fan who recognized NO CODE as a masterpiece when it was effing released).
carry on
Criticism and/or disagreeing with his comments, or the method by which he presents it, is totally fair game and should be expected if you put it out there.....I agree with you there.
I have issue with people commenting on this guy's looks and appearance.....that's all.
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buck502000
Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
I didn't bother trying to get these reissues through the Ten Club, as I kinda knew living here in New Zealand they'd take forever to arrive, plus we have a very good local store that gets everything upon its releases dates. I have original's of No Code and Yield on vinyl and decided today to pick up a No Code reissue to compare it to the original.
First of all the packaging is great, it's the same size as the OG, just the spine is wider and more defined. My new copy is an EU version and the vinyl itself looks great, no scratches or bits of fluff on it. Once on the turntable and spinning I noticed a slight warp, but minor and fairly normal with records I've found so no big deal. The OG is very flat, but a slightly thinner plastic, maybe 120grams. Labels are centered well on the reissue.
The recent reissue, once listening through Monitor Audio floor-standing speakers sounds pretty good, quiet in the space between songs and little to no clicks or pops. Although not quite as loud as the OG once music is playing, about 4-5 notchs on the volume to get it to the same loudness, but does sound decent. Personally I always liked how the OG sounded, was never mind-blowingly amazing, but definitely well above average. In saying that there is definitely a difference in how the reissue compares sound wise, it's seems the newer version has each instrument at the same level, quite full, whereas the OG has more punch with some of the guitar and drum parts, meaning it seem's more dynamic. Example: Hail Hail sounds much better and raw on the OG, though the quieter songs possibly sound better on the reissue, Off He Goes' guitar strums sounding better here.
Overall not a hell of I lot of difference as far as I could tell on my equipment, but the reissue is a very enjoyable listen, just I'd rather go with the original in all honesty..
I didn't bother trying to get these reissues through the Ten Club, as I kinda knew living here in New Zealand they'd take forever to arrive, plus we have a very good local store that gets everything upon its releases dates. I have original's of No Code and Yield on vinyl and decided today to pick up a No Code reissue to compare it to the original.
First of all the packaging is great, it's the same size as the OG, just the spine is wider and more defined. My new copy is an EU version and the vinyl itself looks great, no scratches or bits of fluff on it. Once on the turntable and spinning I noticed a slight warp, but minor and fairly normal with records I've found so no big deal. The OG is very flat, but a slightly thinner plastic, maybe 120grams. Labels are centered well on the reissue.
The recent reissue, once listening through Monitor Audio floor-standing speakers sounds pretty good, quiet in the space between songs and little to no clicks or pops. Although not quite as loud as the OG once music is playing, about 4-5 notchs on the volume to get it to the same loudness, but does sound decent. Personally I always liked how the OG sounded, was never mind-blowingly amazing, but definitely well above average. In saying that there is definitely a difference in how the reissue compares sound wise, it's seems the newer version has each instrument at the same level, quite full, whereas the OG has more punch with some of the guitar and drum parts, meaning it seem's more dynamic. Example: Hail Hail sounds much better and raw on the OG, though the quieter songs possibly sound better on the reissue, Off He Goes' guitar strums sounding better here.
Overall not a hell of I lot of difference as far as I could tell on my equipment, but the reissue is a very enjoyable listen, just I'd rather go with the original in all honesty..
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
Bill Graham Civic Auditorium - Jul 15, 2006
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
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All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
Like i said before i know 10c is a small organization. I can wait. Their choices are interesting tho.
I have the original Who You Are 7". What are the alternate lyrics you speak of? Was this always the case with the single, never really noticed.
My guess is they have this version marked as Master so when it's been pulled for RVM, or these reissues, they pulled the Avalanche version. I'm guessing the Circumstance version from 1996 was a last minute switch and it wasn't noted as being the master.
Why is Who You Are different on RVM... how many other songs on RVM are different versions? All the "TEN" songs are the remixed ones, right?
I think thats everything.
MOST of RVM sounds like alternate mixes and alternate takes to me, but WTF do I know?
I have the new No Code but might need to pick up the new Who you are 7" as well now. I love quirky little things like this. "Circumstance, Clapping Hands" are the lyrics sung live so it seems like the wrong version was maybe used for RVM and everything since.
So now I have Yield, No Code, All (5) Singles, Third Man....just waiting for the Vault to go out
Just preordered New Metallica....fuckin never ends.
maybe we have a PJ example.
livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
Noblesville, May 7, 2010
PJ20 Night 1, 2011
Cincinnati, Oct. 1, 2014
Milwaukee, Oct. 20, 2014
Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field, Aug 22, 2016
Wrigley Field, Aug 18, 2018
Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2018
St. Louis, Sept. 18, 2022
Chicago, Sept. 5, 2023
Chicago, Sept. 7, 2023
I have issue with people commenting on this guy's looks and appearance.....that's all.
First of all the packaging is great, it's the same size as the OG, just the spine is wider and more defined. My new copy is an EU version and the vinyl itself looks great, no scratches or bits of fluff on it. Once on the turntable and spinning I noticed a slight warp, but minor and fairly normal with records I've found so no big deal. The OG is very flat, but a slightly thinner plastic, maybe 120grams. Labels are centered well on the reissue.
The recent reissue, once listening through Monitor Audio floor-standing speakers sounds pretty good, quiet in the space between songs and little to no clicks or pops. Although not quite as loud as the OG once music is playing, about 4-5 notchs on the volume to get it to the same loudness, but does sound decent. Personally I always liked how the OG sounded, was never mind-blowingly amazing, but definitely well above average. In saying that there is definitely a difference in how the reissue compares sound wise, it's seems the newer version has each instrument at the same level, quite full, whereas the OG has more punch with some of the guitar and drum parts, meaning it seem's more dynamic. Example: Hail Hail sounds much better and raw on the OG, though the quieter songs possibly sound better on the reissue, Off He Goes' guitar strums sounding better here.
Overall not a hell of I lot of difference as far as I could tell on my equipment, but the reissue is a very enjoyable listen, just I'd rather go with the original in all honesty..
Original: 8/10
Reissue 7/10.
livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
Still nothing...
It sounds good though.