Did anyone comment on the view of 10C presale vs normal shop purchases? Like, could the 10C releases have some feature (colored vinyl like LB etc) vs standard black vinyl in shops.
For LB, or the Mad Season live album, or the Fixer 7", They have never told us in any case if there was a variant. So it's possible. But they didn't do it for the other reissues, so maybe not these. I guess we'll find out by midAugust.
For LB, or the Mad Season live album, or the Fixer 7", They have never told us in any case if there was a variant. So it's possible. But they didn't do it for the other reissues, so maybe not these. I guess we'll find out by midAugust.
Was there a presale for the other reissues? I bought in, but really there's no reason to if its just the same release that my local record store will have. (Unless it's limited for some reason)
I got back 12" albums. I don't expect a deluxe reissue for these, but more importantly, are these remastered? I haven't seem any info on that yet. It may be mentioned somewhere in this threat, I just haven't see it.
For LB, or the Mad Season live album, or the Fixer 7", They have never told us in any case if there was a variant. So it's possible. But they didn't do it for the other reissues, so maybe not these. I guess we'll find out by midAugust.
Was there a presale for the other reissues? I bought in, but really there's no reason to if its just the same release that my local record store will have. (Unless it's limited for some reason)
The way I see it, if you are planning on buying these reissued albums anyway, it's best to buy them here from the band's web store. That way, they can gauge the tremendous (hopefully) demand for these reissues and put out more of them.
For LB, or the Mad Season live album, or the Fixer 7", They have never told us in any case if there was a variant. So it's possible. But they didn't do it for the other reissues, so maybe not these. I guess we'll find out by midAugust.
Was there a presale for the other reissues? I bought in, but really there's no reason to if its just the same release that my local record store will have. (Unless it's limited for some reason)
The way I see it, if you are planning on buying these reissued albums anyway, it's best to buy them here from the band's web store. That way, they can gauge the tremendous (hopefully) demand for these reissues and put out more of them.
Yeah, maybe they get a bigger cut if it's all in house... I gotta add that the anticipation of an already preordered item is fun as well. I'm not expecting anything but a standard reissue, although the idea of something special is always cool.
All they said is "mastered for vinyl" which can mean anything. But it most likely starts with the original master (as a tape or, a hi rez digital file).
I have pasted the post below from a vinyl collector's forum where I hang out sometimes. This person has some interesting thoughts:
------ The OP of Ten blows away the new reissue, which shouldn't EVER happen if a band of PJ's stature actually cares about the quality of their vinyl pressings. The last few releases (Backspacer, LB) haven't been great from an audio standpoint. I'm still hunting an OP of Vs. for a cheap price, rather than wasting $$ on what I know from countless sources is a bad reissue. It is a shame that the one band championing vinyl during the dark days of the 90's doesn't seem to care about quality now that we're in a resurgence.
To offer a more accurate counterpoint than DMB (who actually put out BTCS in 1998, definitely a widespread vinyl release for the time).... Nirvana's catalog on ORG sounds pretty fantastic. And those were recent reissues... But all-analog and done with care. On the flipside, Soundgarden's reissues haven't been anything to write home about. Alice In Chains is all MOV, with mixed results. The Black Crowes reissues (which coincide with the same era of PJ reissues) missed the boat too. Pearl Jam isn't the only band putting out half-assed reissues... But they seem like the one that SHOULD care more.
I would love to see an analog specialty label get a crack at PJ's back catalog. I'm fine with paying $30 for a record with top-notch sound, versus $20 for another reissue that sounds like the CD on vinyl. But I don't see it happening anytime soon. -------
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I saw that comment. An awesome poster had a great response.
Im just saying, I don't think quality is something they ever really cared about when it came to their vinyl. They just fetishized the nostalgia of the artifact. But their contrary to the popular culture support of the format has somehow evolved, in many fans minds, as them leading the charge for audiophiles. And now they are held up to some standard that they never really intentionally met.
I saw that comment. An awesome poster had a great response.
Im just saying, I don't think quality is something they ever really cared about when it came to their vinyl. They just fetishized the nostalgia of the artifact. But their contrary to the popular culture support of the format has somehow evolved, in many fans minds, as them leading the charge for audiophiles. And now they are held up to some standard that they never really intentionally met.
Agree.
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Stockholm 2014-06-28
If you have a good soundsystem there are things on Yield that are wonderful. Little nuances that you may have passed up.
If they can enhance that ever so slightly I think it may be even more enjoyable.
This is a great point, but the thing I struggle with in regard to vinyl is: if I have a great sound system (which I don't), I wonder if I would pick up those same nuances from the CD?
Either way, I'll be shelling out for these reissues if only for the nostalgia of it, bigger artwork and because they're relatively inexpensive compared to other new vinyl. If the sound is great, then it's a bonus and I'll have something to look forward to when I upgrade my system.
If you have a good soundsystem there are things on Yield that are wonderful. Little nuances that you may have passed up.
If they can enhance that ever so slightly I think it may be even more enjoyable.
This is a great point, but the thing I struggle with in regard to vinyl is: if I have a great sound system (which I don't), I wonder if I would pick up those same nuances from the CD?
Either way, I'll be shelling out for these reissues if only for the nostalgia of it, bigger artwork and because they're relatively inexpensive compared to other new vinyl. If the sound is great, then it's a bonus and I'll have something to look forward to when I upgrade my system.
Nah, CD is still best fidelity in my opinion - this after upgrading my own system with a high quality CD player. As someone who owns all the PJ works on vinyl (Ten, Benny, etc., etc.,), the nuances you are after I don't hear on vinyl, but with a high quality set up and headphones.
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I bought in, but really there's no reason to if its just the same release that my local record store will have. (Unless it's limited for some reason)
Would love to see colored vinyl on the 7" reissues.
I'm not expecting anything but a standard reissue, although the idea of something special is always cool.
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The OP of Ten blows away the new reissue, which shouldn't EVER happen if a band of PJ's stature actually cares about the quality of their vinyl pressings. The last few releases (Backspacer, LB) haven't been great from an audio standpoint. I'm still hunting an OP of Vs. for a cheap price, rather than wasting $$ on what I know from countless sources is a bad reissue. It is a shame that the one band championing vinyl during the dark days of the 90's doesn't seem to care about quality now that we're in a resurgence.
To offer a more accurate counterpoint than DMB (who actually put out BTCS in 1998, definitely a widespread vinyl release for the time).... Nirvana's catalog on ORG sounds pretty fantastic. And those were recent reissues... But all-analog and done with care.
On the flipside, Soundgarden's reissues haven't been anything to write home about. Alice In Chains is all MOV, with mixed results. The Black Crowes reissues (which coincide with the same era of PJ reissues) missed the boat too. Pearl Jam isn't the only band putting out half-assed reissues... But they seem like the one that SHOULD care more.
I would love to see an analog specialty label get a crack at PJ's back catalog. I'm fine with paying $30 for a record with top-notch sound, versus $20 for another reissue that sounds like the CD on vinyl. But I don't see it happening anytime soon.
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Stockholm 2012-07-07
Stockholm 2014-06-28
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If they can enhance that ever so slightly I think it may be even more enjoyable.
Either way, I'll be shelling out for these reissues if only for the nostalgia of it, bigger artwork and because they're relatively inexpensive compared to other new vinyl. If the sound is great, then it's a bonus and I'll have something to look forward to when I upgrade my system.
agree....
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17