Got thrown in the same pile with all the other insignificant filler tracks that overstayed their welcome during the album's tour and the couple of tours following it.
filler tracks? obviously much different tastes in music, that sounds like a standard canned response, according to your logic, they view the whole Binaural album as filler tracks, that's beyond dumb
Hank... You seem to be really argumentative with people in this thread. Which kind of follows the pattern of your visits here. You start off mellow, then start a bunch of threads where you get frustrated with people and then you post that you're done with the boards for good. Why not ease off the accelerator a little and pace yourself here. Stick around awhile and enjoy this place.
whatever dude, name me one song on Binaural that gets played regularly anymore?
Light Years has 3 plays this tour. That's probably it.
It does seem that shows have been LESS political this tour (aside from the NC boycott). It's an election year and you'd think that would be the perfect excuse to be MORE political. Remember the Vote for Change tour and the hared for NeoCons? Isn't what the GOP is considering now worse? Not making any judgements, just an observation...
Got thrown in the same pile with all the other insignificant filler tracks that overstayed their welcome during the album's tour and the couple of tours following it.
filler tracks? obviously much different tastes in music, that sounds like a standard canned response, according to your logic, they view the whole Binaural album as filler tracks, that's beyond dumb
Hank... You seem to be really argumentative with people in this thread. Which kind of follows the pattern of your visits here. You start off mellow, then start a bunch of threads where you get frustrated with people and then you post that you're done with the boards for good. Why not ease off the accelerator a little and pace yourself here. Stick around awhile and enjoy this place.
whatever dude, name me one song on Binaural that gets played regularly anymore?
Light Years has 3 plays this tour. That's probably it.
Good old Light Years, that's it, Riot Act & Avocado get fucked too by the way while we are on the subject
It does seem that shows have been LESS political this tour (aside from the NC boycott). It's an election year and you'd think that would be the perfect excuse to be MORE political. Remember the Vote for Change tour and the hared for NeoCons? Isn't what the GOP is considering now worse? Not making any judgements, just an observation...
^This, I am a Socialist too, so I am for equality and I care about all human lives, and Insignificance always resonated with me for that reason, maybe Binaural & Riot Act aren't played because they weren't made with their current producers, Ten they kind of have to play due to it's popularity
It does seem that shows have been LESS political this tour (aside from the NC boycott). It's an election year and you'd think that would be the perfect excuse to be MORE political. Remember the Vote for Change tour and the hared for NeoCons? Isn't what the GOP is considering now worse? Not making any judgements, just an observation...
They used to get a lot of pushback when they talked a lot of politics. I remember plenty on this board. I've been to 2 shows this tour -used to go to more (4-8), but it seems like Ed works in a couple comments maybe 1 time during the show and that's it. Maybe trying to seek a balance between those of us who are fine with the political commentary, and those who'd prefer none at all. (I'm fine with it, tend to lean in the same direction, but not everyone does)
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It does seem that shows have been LESS political this tour (aside from the NC boycott). It's an election year and you'd think that would be the perfect excuse to be MORE political. Remember the Vote for Change tour and the hared for NeoCons? Isn't what the GOP is considering now worse? Not making any judgements, just an observation...
They used to get a lot of pushback when they talked a lot of politics. I remember plenty on this board. I've been to 2 shows this tour -used to go to more (4-8), but it seems like Ed works in a couple comments maybe 1 time during the show and that's it. Maybe trying to seek a balance between those of us who are fine with the political commentary, and those who'd prefer none at all. (I'm fine with it, tend to lean in the same direction, but not everyone does)
i get it, there is some serious stuff happening in the world with lack of freedoms in usa, and major war threats going on. It is so overwhelming how much wrong is in the world, is there more positive than negative in the world? or are all the positives built on the negatives burying tragedy in history and in third worlds. PJ probably got burnt out. I hope they end their break if thats the case. It so easy to feel apathetic in the western world away from problems in the world.
i get it, there is some serious stuff happening in the world with lack of freedoms in usa, and major war threats going on. It is so overwhelming how much wrong is in the world, is there more positive than negative in the world? or are all the positives built on the negatives burying tragedy in history and in third worlds. PJ probably got burnt out. I hope they end their break if thats the case. It so easy to feel apathetic in the western world away from problems in the world.
i get it, there is some serious stuff happening in the world with lack of freedoms in usa, and major war threats going on. It is so overwhelming how much wrong is in the world, is there more positive than negative in the world? or are all the positives built on the negatives burying tragedy in history and in third worlds. PJ probably got burnt out. I hope they end their break if thats the case. It so easy to feel apathetic in the western world away from problems in the world.
I'm not sure apathy is a proper assessment. People live, lose, hurt, change, express themselves differently.
I look at songs like Rise, Amongst the Waves, several others, as hopeful in the midst of this world's shit. And it's beautiful.
It's funny, but this demanding of political talk and songs is as selfish and disrespectful (to me, anyway) as those who scream "just shut up and sing".
i get it, there is some serious stuff happening in the world with lack of freedoms in usa, and major war threats going on. It is so overwhelming how much wrong is in the world, is there more positive than negative in the world? or are all the positives built on the negatives burying tragedy in history and in third worlds. PJ probably got burnt out. I hope they end their break if thats the case. It so easy to feel apathetic in the western world away from problems in the world.
I'm not sure apathy is a proper assessment. People live, lose, hurt, change, express themselves differently.
I look at songs like Rise, Amongst the Waves, several others, as hopeful in the midst of this world's shit. And it's beautiful.
It's funny, but this demanding of political talk and songs is as selfish and disrespectful (to me, anyway) as those who scream "just shut up and sing".
Let 'em be! Let 'em do!
it's not political, that is a cop out, it is about the value of human lives, if you don't value the lives of innocent people getting killed, then I find that disrespectful, so it is all a matter of perspective
Do you guys have any clue about what's been going on in Greece (my country), at least, for the last 6 years? The IMF, in collaboration with the EU, have been slaughtering the whole nation. We're talking about some serious economic war here. I just wanted to offer additional evidence.
War isn't about politics? Is never about politics? Oy.
And, just curious - what makes you think Pearl Jam or those who post in these forums don't appreciate life, and mourn loss? Because a SONG hasn't been played at a concert?
Do you guys have a clue about what's going on in Greece (my country) right now? The IMF, in collaboration with the EU, are slaughtering the whole nation.
War isn't about politics? Is never about politics? Oy.
And, just curious - what makes you think Pearl Jam or those who post in these forums don't appreciate life, and mourn loss? Because a SONG hasn't been played at a concert?
War isn't about politics? Is never about politics? Oy.
And, just curious - what makes you think Pearl Jam or those who post in these forums don't appreciate life, and mourn loss? Because a SONG hasn't been played at a concert?
Dude, you can use your own words, you know.
Passive-aggressive quotes don't carry much weight...especially when attempting to call someone who has another view "stupid".
They clearly decided to change the tone of the live shows since the Bush years ended... I think they decided to focus on making the shows fun and inclusive and made a conscious decision to drop the political banter... why alienate audience members that might disagree with your politics? $20 says this was a real discussion & decision by the band... obviously Ed is going to say something on stage once in a while, like Milton Keynes 2014. but there is a clear difference at the shows in banter and song selection... which is fine because Ed saying something on stage doesn't change a thing... and neither does playing Insignificance or any other song, I just want them to play them because they are great songs, not because I think they will make any difference in the world
They clearly decided to change the tone of the live shows since the Bush years ended... I think they decided to focus on making the shows fun and inclusive and made a conscious decision to drop the political banter... why alienate audience members that might disagree with your politics? $20 says this was a real discussion & decision by the band... obviously Ed is going to say something on stage once in a while, like Milton Keynes 2014. but there is a clear difference at the shows in banter and song selection... which is fine because Ed saying something on stage doesn't change a thing... and neither does playing Insignificance or any other song, I just want them to play them because they are great songs, not because I think they will make any difference in the world
so if Trump gets elected and they go back to the way it was pre-Obama, then that is all bullshit?
A Moving Train, yeah the decision is all political bullshit, being a hypocrite is nothing to be proud of
what? Im lost. He's a hypocrite because he's taking a pic and or hanging with the President? Did you just create a thread saying "Thank you Ed"? Im confused...
A Moving Train, yeah the decision is all political bullshit, being a hypocrite is nothing to be proud of
what? Im lost. He's a hypocrite because he's taking a pic and or hanging with the President? Did you just create a thread saying "Thank you Ed"? Im confused...
yes because he protested the war when the Republicans were in office, now that his buddy is in, he doesn't, and one has nothing to do with the other, you give people props when they do something good, and call them on it when they do something inconsistent. I have never voted Republican either, but the war machine hasn't slowed down, and many of the promises have turned into lies, so it gives the appearance of being extremely hypocritical, because of the inconsistency.
Out of the most played songs by PJ, it ranks 22nd. They probably got burned out playing it which is a common theme with PJ. It will probably come back into rotation when TRUMP is elected POTUS and invades Mexico.
Hillary Clinton arranged the sale of 153 billion in commercial arms sales to countries that donated to the Clinton Foundation, by the way that is double the sales that happened in the same time period in the George W Bush presidency prior to her becoming Secretary of State, I wonder how many $20,000 a plate fundraisers Eddie will be playing this year? And really Eddie, everyone knows she is corrupt, not even sure how in your mind you justify this anymore?
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I'm talking about what I've heard here and there. I don't follow stats.
Still not sure if you're upset over the lack of Binaural in general or the song in particular. Thread's been zigging and zagging.
By the way, one need not be a Socialist to give a shit about equality and their fellow man.
Just FYI.
I look at songs like Rise, Amongst the Waves, several others, as hopeful in the midst of this world's shit. And it's beautiful.
It's funny, but this demanding of political talk and songs is as selfish and disrespectful (to me, anyway) as those who scream "just shut up and sing".
Let 'em be! Let 'em do!
And, just curious - what makes you think Pearl Jam or those who post in these forums don't appreciate life, and mourn loss? Because a SONG hasn't been played at a concert?
Passive-aggressive quotes don't carry much weight...especially when attempting to call someone who has another view "stupid".
Tsk tsk, Hank. No need to be rude.