Why the hell did you wait so long to cancel?

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  • PJForceofNature
    PJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    adamg5 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJForceofNature said:

    adamg5 said:

    This is thread pretty much sums up exactly how I feel. I really hope the law changes because it's BS, but PJ really screwed a lot of fans by waiting so long to cancel IMHO. I don't get it and I totally understand how the cancellation, ruined the Hampton show for some. I do not feel I'm quite ready to have fun at a show yet knowing so many fans got the rug pulled out from underneath them....

    I feel the same way. I was so looking forward to the Philly 1 show, but now my enthusiasm has dimmed due to how sorry I am feeling for the fans who were only given 2 days notice about the Raleigh cancellation.
    Go to Lost Dogs and sell your tix.
    FV of course.
    Someone will be very happy and will bring it to the show.
    Who said the ones at the moment feel dimmed because so many fans lost time, money, etc won't still bring it when the time comes?
    That's they way a lot of us feel and others don't think it ain't no big deal that others lost out. I for one didn't buy tix to the show, take time off work, plan a schedule for someone to watch my kids while I'm out of my home state, lose money on a hotel. But a lot of people did and it's brought down moral.

    If we decide to sell our tix to upcoming shows its up to the ones who purchased them with their hard earned money.
    Exactly. I don't plan to sell my tickets, and will still attend Philly 1. However, at this point in time I don't feel as excited about the show as I normally would. I'm just feeling kind of sad.
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  • dogtown
    dogtown Posts: 118
    edited January 2018
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,027
    dogtown said:

    I appreciate the empathy from those of you who can see what a disappointment this is for people with tickets. You'd feel even worse if you could see the Raleigh Ramada. I'm not happy to be here for no reason, but I did get a chance to speak to a local at a bar last night about HB2. When she casually mentioned that she's transgender, I asked her opinion on bands canceling shows. She said that she'd rather see them play the shows they had scheduled and donate the money so that local workers and fans don't get screwed over. She also explained just how discriminatory the law is, and not just towards LGBT people. It's a shitty law and I stand behind opposing it, just would have loved a week or two to get over this cancellation.

    Is it empty? I was supposed to stay there, luckily still had 6 hours to cancel after the announcement was made
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    JimmyV said:

    If we're taking Eddie at his word I think we already know. For a while they thought they could play the show and make some donations, but as it drew closer the band decided it couldn't go through with that. I'm fine with accepting that as the explanation but will always believe the indecisiveness impacted fans unnecessarily.

    Yeah, seems the question was answered.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    edited April 2016
    If things are non refundable that means those flights/hotels/etc were paid for in advance. Instead of losing that money why not just go to Raleigh and make the best of it?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    mcgruff10 said:

    If things are non refundable that means those flights/hotels/etc were paid for in advance. Instead of losing that money why not just go to Raleigh and make the best of it?

    Yeah, it couldn't be that bad a place, could it?? Crazy that some would apparently rather lose a bunch of money than visit Raleigh, lol.
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  • camsjam
    camsjam Posts: 375
    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    If things are non refundable that means those flights/hotels/etc were paid for in advance. Instead of losing that money why not just go to Raleigh and make the best of it?

    Yeah, it couldn't be that bad a place, could it?? Crazy that some would apparently rather lose a bunch of money than visit Raleigh, lol.
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  • camsjam
    camsjam Posts: 375
    camsjam said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    If things are non refundable that means those flights/hotels/etc were paid for in advance. Instead of losing that money why not just go to Raleigh and make the best of it?

    Yeah, it couldn't be that bad a place, could it?? Crazy that some would apparently rather lose a bunch of money than visit Raleigh, lol.
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  • dogtown
    dogtown Posts: 118
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    mcgruff10 said:

    If things are non refundable that means those flights/hotels/etc were paid for in advance. Instead of losing that money why not just go to Raleigh and make the best of it?

    Trying to cut losses perhaps on a trip they never would have taken if not for PJ. Maybe they got the hotel refunded, or saved on the rental car/uber trips. Maybe they saved on not needing a babysitter.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    bootlegger10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    If things are non refundable that means those flights/hotels/etc were paid for in advance. Instead of losing that money why not just go to Raleigh and make the best of it?

    Trying to cut losses perhaps on a trip they never would have taken if not for PJ. Maybe they got the hotel refunded, or saved on the rental car/uber trips. Maybe they saved on not needing a babysitter.
    so you'd fly to a city you wouldn't go to if not for pj playing there? that just seems really odd to me. and yeah i've been to raleigh and it's good to visit for 1/2 nights. (no more)
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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,092
    mcgruff10 said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    If things are non refundable that means those flights/hotels/etc were paid for in advance. Instead of losing that money why not just go to Raleigh and make the best of it?

    Trying to cut losses perhaps on a trip they never would have taken if not for PJ. Maybe they got the hotel refunded, or saved on the rental car/uber trips. Maybe they saved on not needing a babysitter.
    so you'd fly to a city you wouldn't go to if not for pj playing there? that just seems really odd to me. and yeah i've been to raleigh and it's good to visit for 1/2 nights. (no more)
    A lot of us do that. I've been to plenty of towns I wouldn't otherwise go to. Some were cool and some were absolute shitholes. When they play your hometown once a decade you don't have a choice if you want to see them.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    ComeToTX said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    If things are non refundable that means those flights/hotels/etc were paid for in advance. Instead of losing that money why not just go to Raleigh and make the best of it?

    Trying to cut losses perhaps on a trip they never would have taken if not for PJ. Maybe they got the hotel refunded, or saved on the rental car/uber trips. Maybe they saved on not needing a babysitter.
    so you'd fly to a city you wouldn't go to if not for pj playing there? that just seems really odd to me. and yeah i've been to raleigh and it's good to visit for 1/2 nights. (no more)
    A lot of us do that. I've been to plenty of towns I wouldn't otherwise go to. Some were cool and some were absolute shitholes. When they play your hometown once a decade you don't have a choice if you want to see them.
    very true my friend. i'm still waiting to visit texas. remind me which cities to avoid just in case they cancel!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    mcgruff10 said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    If things are non refundable that means those flights/hotels/etc were paid for in advance. Instead of losing that money why not just go to Raleigh and make the best of it?

    Trying to cut losses perhaps on a trip they never would have taken if not for PJ. Maybe they got the hotel refunded, or saved on the rental car/uber trips. Maybe they saved on not needing a babysitter.
    so you'd fly to a city you wouldn't go to if not for pj playing there? that just seems really odd to me. and yeah i've been to raleigh and it's good to visit for 1/2 nights. (no more)
    I would. If not for PJ I would probably just take some golf trips for my vacations instead, or visit some more interesting places/countries. I didn't cancel a flight, but I did cut short my vacation four days early and skipped Columbia on Thursday. I was planning to work from the hotel and go to the shows. A lot of people only see the pre-party venue and venue parking lot for the GA / merch line when they go see PJ.
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,092
    mcgruff10 said:

    ComeToTX said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    If things are non refundable that means those flights/hotels/etc were paid for in advance. Instead of losing that money why not just go to Raleigh and make the best of it?

    Trying to cut losses perhaps on a trip they never would have taken if not for PJ. Maybe they got the hotel refunded, or saved on the rental car/uber trips. Maybe they saved on not needing a babysitter.
    so you'd fly to a city you wouldn't go to if not for pj playing there? that just seems really odd to me. and yeah i've been to raleigh and it's good to visit for 1/2 nights. (no more)
    A lot of us do that. I've been to plenty of towns I wouldn't otherwise go to. Some were cool and some were absolute shitholes. When they play your hometown once a decade you don't have a choice if you want to see them.
    very true my friend. i'm still waiting to visit texas. remind me which cities to avoid just in case they cancel!
    Nowhere is safe here if they're canceling shows over state laws.
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  • scornlander
    scornlander Colorado Posts: 98
    edited April 2016
    High Fidelity 2000 said:


    It makes me wonder if the band even realizes what travel schedules are like for people. They've had their 5 star hotels booked for them and private travel for years. They maybe don't realize there are things like "non-refundable reservations" that come down to a day or two notice or no notice at all, they're just non refundable and already paid.

    I really think you may be correct. The band members probably haven't booked their own travel in decades. Maybe they think two days notice is plenty of advance warning. Their world is so different than ours. They might have no clue about change fees, non-refundable tickets etc. It is an interesting theory at least.
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  • scornlander
    scornlander Colorado Posts: 98
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,967
    scornlander said:

    High Fidelity 2000 said:


    It makes me wonder if the band even realizes what travel schedules are like for people. They've had their 5 star hotels booked for them and private travel for years. They maybe don't realize there are things like "non-refundable reservations" that come down to a day or two notice or no notice at all, they're just non refundable and already paid.

    I really think you may be correct. The band members probably haven't booked their own travel in decades. Maybe they think two days notice is plenty of advance warning. Their world is so different than ours. They might have no clue about change fees, non-refundable tickets etc. It is an interesting theory at least.
    They don't live on another planet. I'm pretty sure they know what cancellation fees are. Just like they know what curfew fees are.

  • scornlander
    scornlander Colorado Posts: 98
    eddiec said:


    They don't live on another planet. I'm pretty sure they know what cancellation fees are. Just like they know what curfew fees are.

    Maybe in a general sense. They know people were inconvenienced but I doubt they fully understand to what degree. In any case Eddie's net worth is $80 million. I doubt that he can empathize with the average fan who got screwed by this.

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