That video speaks for itself in both video and audio lol If they killed the hair bands, they did it by being the best hair band around.
Yep, hard to argue with that when you see the hair in that video. But they were way way harder than hair band music to me. Remember "get in the ring?" Lol, that's no where near hair band, that's just straight aggressive as hell. Hair bands were softer and less distortion to my ears. To me not a hair band but I totally see if you were 2 at the time you'd lump them into that group
GNR and Metallica were considered Heavy Metal back in the late 80's and early 90's. Bands like Poison, Def Leppard, Motley Crew and Whitesnake were the Hair Bands. GNR would play in a garage and pass out from drinking gasoline. Poison would play at fitness club and drink mimosas. I can't wait to see GNR at least once this summer.
Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. Sorry, Ted, that's a dumb question... skip that.
GNR and Metallica were considered Heavy Metal back in the late 80's and early 90's. Bands like Poison, Def Leppard, Motley Crew and Whitesnake were the Hair Bands. GNR would play in a garage and pass out from drinking gasoline. Poison would play at fitness club and drink mimosas. I can't wait to see GNR at least once this summer.
Yah, GNR got me out of Hair Metal. I listed to alot of Def Leppard as a kid, but GNR was like setting fire to gasoline. I guess people think GNR is hair metal because of how they are dressed in the welcome to the jungle video, but they were far from the poppy hair metal genre. GNR felt like rock music on fire. It was raw. Definitely a bridge to the grunge music that followed them a few years later.
That video speaks for itself in both video and audio lol If they killed the hair bands, they did it by being the best hair band around.
Yep, hard to argue with that when you see the hair in that video.
Judging the band by their looks is silly. That video is the one and only time you see Axl with his hair all teased out like that, after that always just straight (until the corn rows kicked in after he lost his marbles). Said in an interview back then that it wasn't his choice and after seeing it decided never again.
If you define them as a hair band because they had long hair, well then isn't Led Zeppelin a hair band:
In fact weren't The Beatles at one point a hair band...
Hair band is the stupidest moniker the media ever came up with, much dumber than grunge.
GNR and Metallica were considered Heavy Metal back in the late 80's and early 90's. Bands like Poison, Def Leppard, Motley Crew and Whitesnake were the Hair Bands. GNR would play in a garage and pass out from drinking gasoline. Poison would play at fitness club and drink mimosas. I can't wait to see GNR at least once this summer.
Yah, GNR got me out of Hair Metal. I listed to alot of Def Leppard as a kid, but GNR was like setting fire to gasoline. I guess people think GNR is hair metal because of how they are dressed in the welcome to the jungle video, but they were far from the poppy hair metal genre. GNR felt like rock music on fire. It was raw. Definitely a bridge to the grunge music that followed them a few years later.
It was definitely more raw and explosive, very heavy stuff. To argue against that would make no sense, the point I have been failing to make is that stylistically they fall into the same category.
That video speaks for itself in both video and audio lol If they killed the hair bands, they did it by being the best hair band around.
Yep, hard to argue with that when you see the hair in that video.
Judging the band by their looks is silly. That video is the one and only time you see Axl with his hair all teased out like that, after that always just straight (until the corn rows kicked in after he lost his marbles). Said in an interview back then that it wasn't his choice and after seeing it decided never again.
If you define them as a hair band because they had long hair, well then isn't Led Zeppelin a hair band:
In fact weren't The Beatles at one point a hair band...
Hair band is the stupidest moniker the media ever came up with, much dumber than grunge.
It isn't just a judgement on looks though, the basic makeup and sound of the band is the exact same archetype as the hair bands. As I mentioned before, a screeching falsetto singer, a heavy but uncelebrated rhythm section, and soaring, powerful lead guitar. Don't get me wrong, some of the greatest bands ever share some of all of those characteristics (even Zep and Pearl Jam) but the formula was getting stale. Did GNR rip it open and tear it down with raw explosiveness? Sure, maybe they did, but it isn't realistic to credit them as a new sound or style.
If you've only seen bits and pieces (such as footage from Friday's show that was a $10 warm up at a small club), I would highly recommend checking out footage/setlist from Vancouver 2011, and some of the last setlists from Vegas in 2014. Axl sounds great, the band was playing 3 hour+ shows, and they were revitalized.
While it's easy to slag on them now, I would be more interested in seeing their Vegas setlists/footage from this coming weekend (the first real shows) as an indicator of what to expect for this tour.
$1700 great???
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If you didn't live through it, I too can see how you would consider GNR a hair band.
If you were around for it though, you would know they were different. People knew the second they heard GNR, that they were different from everything else out there.
Look at early pictures of Alice & Chains, they had the big hair & spandex outfits too, but no one ever mistook them for a hair band.
GNR and Metallica were considered Heavy Metal back in the late 80's and early 90's. Bands like Poison, Def Leppard, Motley Crew and Whitesnake were the Hair Bands. GNR would play in a garage and pass out from drinking gasoline. Poison would play at fitness club and drink mimosas. I can't wait to see GNR at least once this summer.
Yeah absolutely. I have never ever heard GnR referred to as a hair band before. I definitely don't think they ever were, and I know that that wasn't how people in general saw them at the time.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
If you didn't live through it, I too can see how you would consider GNR a hair band.
If you were around for it though, you would know they were different. People knew the second they heard GNR, that they were different from everything else out there.
Look at early pictures of Alice & Chains, they had the big hair & spandex outfits too, but no one ever mistook them for a hair band.
People shouldn't criticize someone for paying that much band! These guys have not toured in 23 years! Nobody thought they would get back together! I can honestly say if Pearl Jam broke up for 23 years and then decided to tour I would pay that kind of cash in a heartbeat to see them! It's a good deal of money but it's a chance to see them if you couldn't back in the day. Look at AC/DC! They might be done as a band because Brian Johnson is going deaf! Glad to say I saw them a few times! Have to enjoy these band while you have a chance!
Whether you love them or hate them (or somewhere in between), as thread gets longer and longer, the fact that GNR is/was a big deal only becomes more apparent.
I checked TM for pit tickets $1746 face, from venue.
That's ridiculous. I don't understand why anyone would pay that at this point. They must be people who haven't seen his more recent performances/trainwrecks on youtube.
I pulled GA Pit tickets in Seattle today using the citi presale. $250.00 plus fees. The $1746.00 is a VIP package that comes with a hoodie and some other crapola. Still crazy expensive, but it is possible to get pit seats without forking $1700+ over.
Whether you love them or hate them (or somewhere in between), as thread gets longer and longer, the fact that GNR is/was a big deal only becomes more apparent.
Yes. I believe they still have the record for biggest selling debut album ever. Slash was so fucking good at a young age.
I checked TM for pit tickets $1746 face, from venue.
That's ridiculous. I don't understand why anyone would pay that at this point. They must be people who haven't seen his more recent performances/trainwrecks on youtube.
I pulled GA Pit tickets in Seattle today using the citi presale. $250.00 plus fees. The $1746.00 is a VIP package that comes with a hoodie and some other crapola. Still crazy expensive, but it is possible to get pit seats without forking $1700+ over.
I didn't get it, because the Riser at the back of the floor makes little sense, but does 2nd line of what package include change folks (that drink) minds? What about the collectors among us and the VIP Book? What about being able to secure the ticket and not have to stress about an open sale/Club lottery?
I think some of this stuff that bands do would be very well received around these parts if folks thought about how much they are spending on merch, drinks, ticket stress, etc. The higher ones also come with paid parking which at some of these stadiums can be $50. Just sayin'. (Though $1,700 just to step on stage when it clearly says no band members does seem a bit loony, but who am I to judge? I'm sure there's folks around here that would do that in hopes of Ed poking his head out if it were offered.)
CIVIL WAR VIP RISER PACKAGE Package includes: One general admission standing ticket in the VIP Riser near the mixing board! Private access to your own open bar with beer and wine!* Official Guns N Roses VIP Riser laminate Limited edition Guns N Roses VIP book in custom packaging! VIP commemorative concert ticket Private VIP check in location with red carpet entrance VIP Concierge team on site *Subject to local liquor laws. Bar times will vary by venue.
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Three Fish
July 1996 San Francisco
June 1999 Chicago
If they killed the hair bands, they did it by being the best hair band around.
this guy is to heavy metal...
google images Axl big hair...hours of fun.
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and if its merch sales keeping our PJ tickets affordable, long live dog collars
Three Fish
July 1996 San Francisco
June 1999 Chicago
That video is the one and only time you see Axl with his hair all teased out like that, after that always just straight (until the corn rows kicked in after he lost his marbles). Said in an interview back then that it wasn't his choice and after seeing it decided never again.
If you define them as a hair band because they had long hair, well then
isn't Led Zeppelin a hair band:
In fact weren't The Beatles at one point a hair band...
Hair band is the stupidest moniker the media ever came up with, much dumber than grunge.
Don't get me wrong, some of the greatest bands ever share some of all of those characteristics (even Zep and Pearl Jam) but the formula was getting stale.
Did GNR rip it open and tear it down with raw explosiveness? Sure, maybe they did, but it isn't realistic to credit them as a new sound or style.
If you were around for it though, you would know they were different. People knew the second they heard GNR, that they were different from everything else out there.
Look at early pictures of Alice & Chains, they had the big hair & spandex outfits too, but no one ever mistook them for a hair band.
I'm saving that money for a dream Roger Waters and David Gilmour tour.
Three Fish
July 1996 San Francisco
June 1999 Chicago
http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2016/03/28/david-gilmour-hollywood-bowl/
Three Fish
July 1996 San Francisco
June 1999 Chicago
Yeah don't mistake me, I never thought gnr was a hair band. They were guns n f'n roses. Badass rock to the core
I think some of this stuff that bands do would be very well received around these parts if folks thought about how much they are spending on merch, drinks, ticket stress, etc. The higher ones also come with paid parking which at some of these stadiums can be $50. Just sayin'. (Though $1,700 just to step on stage when it clearly says no band members does seem a bit loony, but who am I to judge? I'm sure there's folks around here that would do that in hopes of Ed poking his head out if it were offered.)
CIVIL WAR VIP RISER PACKAGE
Package includes:
One general admission standing ticket in the VIP Riser near the mixing board!
Private access to your own open bar with beer and wine!*
Official Guns N Roses VIP Riser laminate
Limited edition Guns N Roses VIP book in custom packaging!
VIP commemorative concert ticket
Private VIP check in location with red carpet entrance
VIP Concierge team on site
*Subject to local liquor laws. Bar times will vary by venue.
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Trend setters and $12.50 in 1982. VIP’s didn’t pay.
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June 1999 Chicago
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