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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    edited March 2016
    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    And you may be right. But what about trying to put an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate?

    I don't know much about DiMassimo or his prowess at utilizing strategy but it seems to me that he did a good job of using the media (McCluhanism at its best) to make a point that reached a lot of ears and minds.

    brian, the sooner you accept that as long as mankind is alive there will never be an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate, the better off you'll be. there has never been peace and there never will be. its human nature.. and so long as humans walk the earth there always will be conflict and discontent. its a sad indictment on us as a species but i believe no matter how big our brain is and how much we'd like to think we're above animalistic actions, we're not. though having said that it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I just think we need to redirect our efforts into ending the root causes of those conflicts ie lack of food and water security, poverty, inaccess to education etc...
    These are very good points, Cate. Viewed from that perspective, my own belief is that to go to the root cause of all our problems we need to start working very soon and very hard on cleaning up our oceans and protecting marine life. Everything hinges on that. If we did that and secured our viability as a species, then solving problems of lack of food and water etc would come next in priorities, for sure. It's just that besides these things, I have a really, really big problem with hatred against groups of humans for whatever reason.
    hate requires so much negative energy I don't know how anyone can be bothered with it. what the hells the point of hate anyway???

    as a species I dint think humans are viable long term. we are our own worst enemy and the biggest threat to ourselves. sadly the turnaround required to extend our longevity on this planet is beyond us... and that's okay in the big scheme of things cause perhaps we weren't meant to last that long anyways. everything has a used by date.. except crocodiles, those magnificent beings have been around for so much longer than we could ever hope to be. and that in itself is a valuable lesson for the so called most intelligent creature on earth. why have crocs lasted so long? they are perfect biologically and have adapted to their environment in kind... something mankind seems incapable of doing. we're so intent on bending everything in our environment to our will we dont stop and think that perhaps a more symbiotic relationship is needed for survival. but as I said before perhaps we as a species just aren't meant to last all that long. we surely cant be the epitome of primate evolution... or then again maybe we are; which is a sad thought indeed. so much potential wasted... such a big brain wasted on destruction of self and environment.

    Post edited by catefrances on
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    And you may be right. But what about trying to put an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate?

    I don't know much about DiMassimo or his prowess at utilizing strategy but it seems to me that he did a good job of using the media (McCluhanism at its best) to make a point that reached a lot of ears and minds.

    brian, the sooner you accept that as long as mankind is alive there will never be an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate, the better off you'll be. there has never been peace and there never will be. its human nature.. and so long as humans walk the earth there always will be conflict and discontent. its a sad indictment on us as a species but i believe no matter how big our brain is and how much we'd like to think we're above animalistic actions, we're not. though having said that it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I just think we need to redirect our efforts into ending the root causes of those conflicts ie lack of food and water security, poverty, inaccess to education etc...
    These are very good points, Cate. Viewed from that perspective, my own belief is that to go to the root cause of all our problems we need to start working very soon and very hard on cleaning up our oceans and protecting marine life. Everything hinges on that. If we did that and secured our viability as a species, then solving problems of lack of food and water etc would come next in priorities, for sure. It's just that besides these things, I have a really, really big problem with hatred against groups of humans for whatever reason.
    hate requires so much negative energy I don't know how anyone can be bothered with it. what the hells the point of hate anyway???

    as a species I dint think humans are viable long term. we are our own worst enemy and the biggest threat to ourselves. sadly the turnaround required to extend our longevity on this planet is beyond us... and that's okay in the big scheme of things cause perhaps we weren't meant to last that long anyways. everything has a used by date.. except crocodiles, those magnificent beings have been around for so much longer than we could ever hope to be. and that in itself is a valuable lesson for the so called most intelligent creature on earth. why have crocs lasted so long? they are perfect biologically and have adapted to their environment in kind... something mankind seems incapable of doing. we're so intent on bending everything in our environment to our will we dont stop and think that perhaps a more symbiotic relationship is needed for survival. but as I said before perhaps we as a species just aren't meant to last all that long. we surely cant be the epitome of primate evolution... or then again maybe we are; which is a sad thought indeed. so much potential wasted... such a big brain wasted on destruction of self and environment.

    So true!

    "Love and Only Love will break it down
    Hate is everything you think it is."
    -Neil Young
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited March 2016
    Trump reaction reminded me of a scared cop.
    Poor planning on the guys part. Should have had an accomplice create a diversion.
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    And you may be right. But what about trying to put an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate?

    I don't know much about DiMassimo or his prowess at utilizing strategy but it seems to me that he did a good job of using the media (McCluhanism at its best) to make a point that reached a lot of ears and minds.

    brian, the sooner you accept that as long as mankind is alive there will never be an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate, the better off you'll be. there has never been peace and there never will be. its human nature.. and so long as humans walk the earth there always will be conflict and discontent. its a sad indictment on us as a species but i believe no matter how big our brain is and how much we'd like to think we're above animalistic actions, we're not. though having said that it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I just think we need to redirect our efforts into ending the root causes of those conflicts ie lack of food and water security, poverty, inaccess to education etc...
    These are very good points, Cate. Viewed from that perspective, my own belief is that to go to the root cause of all our problems we need to start working very soon and very hard on cleaning up our oceans and protecting marine life. Everything hinges on that. If we did that and secured our viability as a species, then solving problems of lack of food and water etc would come next in priorities, for sure. It's just that besides these things, I have a really, really big problem with hatred against groups of humans for whatever reason.
    hate requires so much negative energy I don't know how anyone can be bothered with it. what the hells the point of hate anyway???

    as a species I dint think humans are viable long term. we are our own worst enemy and the biggest threat to ourselves. sadly the turnaround required to extend our longevity on this planet is beyond us... and that's okay in the big scheme of things cause perhaps we weren't meant to last that long anyways. everything has a used by date.. except crocodiles, those magnificent beings have been around for so much longer than we could ever hope to be. and that in itself is a valuable lesson for the so called most intelligent creature on earth. why have crocs lasted so long? they are perfect biologically and have adapted to their environment in kind... something mankind seems incapable of doing. we're so intent on bending everything in our environment to our will we dont stop and think that perhaps a more symbiotic relationship is needed for survival. but as I said before perhaps we as a species just aren't meant to last all that long. we surely cant be the epitome of primate evolution... or then again maybe we are; which is a sad thought indeed. so much potential wasted... such a big brain wasted on destruction of self and environment.

    So true!

    "Love and Only Love will break it down
    Hate is everything you think it is."
    -Neil Young
    Except you hate Trump.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    And you may be right. But what about trying to put an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate?

    I don't know much about DiMassimo or his prowess at utilizing strategy but it seems to me that he did a good job of using the media (McCluhanism at its best) to make a point that reached a lot of ears and minds.

    brian, the sooner you accept that as long as mankind is alive there will never be an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate, the better off you'll be. there has never been peace and there never will be. its human nature.. and so long as humans walk the earth there always will be conflict and discontent. its a sad indictment on us as a species but i believe no matter how big our brain is and how much we'd like to think we're above animalistic actions, we're not. though having said that it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I just think we need to redirect our efforts into ending the root causes of those conflicts ie lack of food and water security, poverty, inaccess to education etc...
    These are very good points, Cate. Viewed from that perspective, my own belief is that to go to the root cause of all our problems we need to start working very soon and very hard on cleaning up our oceans and protecting marine life. Everything hinges on that. If we did that and secured our viability as a species, then solving problems of lack of food and water etc would come next in priorities, for sure. It's just that besides these things, I have a really, really big problem with hatred against groups of humans for whatever reason.
    hate requires so much negative energy I don't know how anyone can be bothered with it. what the hells the point of hate anyway???

    as a species I dint think humans are viable long term. we are our own worst enemy and the biggest threat to ourselves. sadly the turnaround required to extend our longevity on this planet is beyond us... and that's okay in the big scheme of things cause perhaps we weren't meant to last that long anyways. everything has a used by date.. except crocodiles, those magnificent beings have been around for so much longer than we could ever hope to be. and that in itself is a valuable lesson for the so called most intelligent creature on earth. why have crocs lasted so long? they are perfect biologically and have adapted to their environment in kind... something mankind seems incapable of doing. we're so intent on bending everything in our environment to our will we dont stop and think that perhaps a more symbiotic relationship is needed for survival. but as I said before perhaps we as a species just aren't meant to last all that long. we surely cant be the epitome of primate evolution... or then again maybe we are; which is a sad thought indeed. so much potential wasted... such a big brain wasted on destruction of self and environment.

    So true!

    "Love and Only Love will break it down
    Hate is everything you think it is."
    -Neil Young
    Except you hate Trump.
    trump is such a hateable individual... im just disappointed in the shit he espouses. how does one come to the opinions he has? does he truly believe the divisive rhetoric he spews or is he simply putting on a show?

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    If he couldn't get an accomplice then use a flash bang grenade or couple M80s. Trumps reaction would have been hilarious.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    catefrances said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    And you may be right. But what about trying to put an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate?

    I don't know much about DiMassimo or his prowess at utilizing strategy but it seems to me that he did a good job of using the media (McCluhanism at its best) to make a point that reached a lot of ears and minds.

    brian, the sooner you accept that as long as mankind is alive there will never be an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate, the better off you'll be. there has never been peace and there never will be. its human nature.. and so long as humans walk the earth there always will be conflict and discontent. its a sad indictment on us as a species but i believe no matter how big our brain is and how much we'd like to think we're above animalistic actions, we're not. though having said that it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I just think we need to redirect our efforts into ending the root causes of those conflicts ie lack of food and water security, poverty, inaccess to education etc...
    These are very good points, Cate. Viewed from that perspective, my own belief is that to go to the root cause of all our problems we need to start working very soon and very hard on cleaning up our oceans and protecting marine life. Everything hinges on that. If we did that and secured our viability as a species, then solving problems of lack of food and water etc would come next in priorities, for sure. It's just that besides these things, I have a really, really big problem with hatred against groups of humans for whatever reason.
    hate requires so much negative energy I don't know how anyone can be bothered with it. what the hells the point of hate anyway???

    as a species I dint think humans are viable long term. we are our own worst enemy and the biggest threat to ourselves. sadly the turnaround required to extend our longevity on this planet is beyond us... and that's okay in the big scheme of things cause perhaps we weren't meant to last that long anyways. everything has a used by date.. except crocodiles, those magnificent beings have been around for so much longer than we could ever hope to be. and that in itself is a valuable lesson for the so called most intelligent creature on earth. why have crocs lasted so long? they are perfect biologically and have adapted to their environment in kind... something mankind seems incapable of doing. we're so intent on bending everything in our environment to our will we dont stop and think that perhaps a more symbiotic relationship is needed for survival. but as I said before perhaps we as a species just aren't meant to last all that long. we surely cant be the epitome of primate evolution... or then again maybe we are; which is a sad thought indeed. so much potential wasted... such a big brain wasted on destruction of self and environment.

    So true!

    "Love and Only Love will break it down
    Hate is everything you think it is."
    -Neil Young
    Except you hate Trump.
    trump is such a hateable individual... im just disappointed in the shit he espouses. how does one come to the opinions he has? does he truly believe the divisive rhetoric he spews or is he simply putting on a show?

    Interesting.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,821
    Def not smart move to rush the podium ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    catefrances said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    And you may be right. But what about trying to put an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate?

    I don't know much about DiMassimo or his prowess at utilizing strategy but it seems to me that he did a good job of using the media (McCluhanism at its best) to make a point that reached a lot of ears and minds.

    brian, the sooner you accept that as long as mankind is alive there will never be an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate, the better off you'll be. there has never been peace and there never will be. its human nature.. and so long as humans walk the earth there always will be conflict and discontent. its a sad indictment on us as a species but i believe no matter how big our brain is and how much we'd like to think we're above animalistic actions, we're not. though having said that it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I just think we need to redirect our efforts into ending the root causes of those conflicts ie lack of food and water security, poverty, inaccess to education etc...
    These are very good points, Cate. Viewed from that perspective, my own belief is that to go to the root cause of all our problems we need to start working very soon and very hard on cleaning up our oceans and protecting marine life. Everything hinges on that. If we did that and secured our viability as a species, then solving problems of lack of food and water etc would come next in priorities, for sure. It's just that besides these things, I have a really, really big problem with hatred against groups of humans for whatever reason.
    hate requires so much negative energy I don't know how anyone can be bothered with it. what the hells the point of hate anyway???

    as a species I dint think humans are viable long term. we are our own worst enemy and the biggest threat to ourselves. sadly the turnaround required to extend our longevity on this planet is beyond us... and that's okay in the big scheme of things cause perhaps we weren't meant to last that long anyways. everything has a used by date.. except crocodiles, those magnificent beings have been around for so much longer than we could ever hope to be. and that in itself is a valuable lesson for the so called most intelligent creature on earth. why have crocs lasted so long? they are perfect biologically and have adapted to their environment in kind... something mankind seems incapable of doing. we're so intent on bending everything in our environment to our will we dont stop and think that perhaps a more symbiotic relationship is needed for survival. but as I said before perhaps we as a species just aren't meant to last all that long. we surely cant be the epitome of primate evolution... or then again maybe we are; which is a sad thought indeed. so much potential wasted... such a big brain wasted on destruction of self and environment.

    So true!

    "Love and Only Love will break it down
    Hate is everything you think it is."
    -Neil Young
    Except you hate Trump.
    trump is such a hateable individual... im just disappointed in the shit he espouses. how does one come to the opinions he has? does he truly believe the divisive rhetoric he spews or is he simply putting on a show?

    Interesting.
    how so?
    hear my name
    take a good look
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    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    And you may be right. But what about trying to put an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate?

    I don't know much about DiMassimo or his prowess at utilizing strategy but it seems to me that he did a good job of using the media (McCluhanism at its best) to make a point that reached a lot of ears and minds.

    brian, the sooner you accept that as long as mankind is alive there will never be an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate, the better off you'll be. there has never been peace and there never will be. its human nature.. and so long as humans walk the earth there always will be conflict and discontent. its a sad indictment on us as a species but i believe no matter how big our brain is and how much we'd like to think we're above animalistic actions, we're not. though having said that it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I just think we need to redirect our efforts into ending the root causes of those conflicts ie lack of food and water security, poverty, inaccess to education etc...
    These are very good points, Cate. Viewed from that perspective, my own belief is that to go to the root cause of all our problems we need to start working very soon and very hard on cleaning up our oceans and protecting marine life. Everything hinges on that. If we did that and secured our viability as a species, then solving problems of lack of food and water etc would come next in priorities, for sure. It's just that besides these things, I have a really, really big problem with hatred against groups of humans for whatever reason.
    hate requires so much negative energy I don't know how anyone can be bothered with it. what the hells the point of hate anyway???

    as a species I dint think humans are viable long term. we are our own worst enemy and the biggest threat to ourselves. sadly the turnaround required to extend our longevity on this planet is beyond us... and that's okay in the big scheme of things cause perhaps we weren't meant to last that long anyways. everything has a used by date.. except crocodiles, those magnificent beings have been around for so much longer than we could ever hope to be. and that in itself is a valuable lesson for the so called most intelligent creature on earth. why have crocs lasted so long? they are perfect biologically and have adapted to their environment in kind... something mankind seems incapable of doing. we're so intent on bending everything in our environment to our will we dont stop and think that perhaps a more symbiotic relationship is needed for survival. but as I said before perhaps we as a species just aren't meant to last all that long. we surely cant be the epitome of primate evolution... or then again maybe we are; which is a sad thought indeed. so much potential wasted... such a big brain wasted on destruction of self and environment.

    So true!

    "Love and Only Love will break it down
    Hate is everything you think it is."
    -Neil Young
    Except you hate Trump.
    I do? When did I say I hate Trump? I am greatly disturbed by what he stands for and I'm very concerned that so many people fall for his crap but why would I hate Donald Trump? That's like saying I hate venomous snakes or tsunamis that kill people or falling rocks that give people concussions. Donald Trump is a piece of the living earth as are snakes, tsunamis and rocks. You cannot hate a part of the planet without hating the whole and I do not hate our planet. I love our planet so in a strange way, I love Donald Trump. But do I love what he stands for and the hatred he promotes. No way! You may think I'm being facetious, but I am not.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    catefrances said:



    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    catefrances said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    And you may be right. But what about trying to put an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate?

    I don't know much about DiMassimo or his prowess at utilizing strategy but it seems to me that he did a good job of using the media (McCluhanism at its best) to make a point that reached a lot of ears and minds.

    brian, the sooner you accept that as long as mankind is alive there will never be an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate, the better off you'll be. there has never been peace and there never will be. its human nature.. and so long as humans walk the earth there always will be conflict and discontent. its a sad indictment on us as a species but i believe no matter how big our brain is and how much we'd like to think we're above animalistic actions, we're not. though having said that it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I just think we need to redirect our efforts into ending the root causes of those conflicts ie lack of food and water security, poverty, inaccess to education etc...
    These are very good points, Cate. Viewed from that perspective, my own belief is that to go to the root cause of all our problems we need to start working very soon and very hard on cleaning up our oceans and protecting marine life. Everything hinges on that. If we did that and secured our viability as a species, then solving problems of lack of food and water etc would come next in priorities, for sure. It's just that besides these things, I have a really, really big problem with hatred against groups of humans for whatever reason.
    hate requires so much negative energy I don't know how anyone can be bothered with it. what the hells the point of hate anyway???

    as a species I dint think humans are viable long term. we are our own worst enemy and the biggest threat to ourselves. sadly the turnaround required to extend our longevity on this planet is beyond us... and that's okay in the big scheme of things cause perhaps we weren't meant to last that long anyways. everything has a used by date.. except crocodiles, those magnificent beings have been around for so much longer than we could ever hope to be. and that in itself is a valuable lesson for the so called most intelligent creature on earth. why have crocs lasted so long? they are perfect biologically and have adapted to their environment in kind... something mankind seems incapable of doing. we're so intent on bending everything in our environment to our will we dont stop and think that perhaps a more symbiotic relationship is needed for survival. but as I said before perhaps we as a species just aren't meant to last all that long. we surely cant be the epitome of primate evolution... or then again maybe we are; which is a sad thought indeed. so much potential wasted... such a big brain wasted on destruction of self and environment.

    So true!

    "Love and Only Love will break it down
    Hate is everything you think it is."
    -Neil Young
    Except you hate Trump.
    trump is such a hateable individual... im just disappointed in the shit he espouses. how does one come to the opinions he has? does he truly believe the divisive rhetoric he spews or is he simply putting on a show?

    Interesting.
    how so?
    You espouse a calm soul yet can recognize hate.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    You espouse a calm soul yet can recognize hate.

    its the buddhist in me. ;)

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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    jumping the fence & rushing the trump stage was not a good idea. if he had done this to the president he very easily could have been shot. who in their right mind wants to play games with the secret service? that idea is a poor decision.
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    I am tired; my heart is
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    no more forever."
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    donald needs a keith richards guitar, mick & 15 thousand balloons

    https://youtu.be/dv1bM0pp_o4

    https://youtu.be/GODaPVTvYKs
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    chadwick said:

    donald needs a keith richards guitar, mick & 15 thousand balloons

    Fucking right.
    Sometimes music speaks louder than words.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    This is what Trump wants, WWE style politics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbHH7n1laxA
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    brianlux said:

    This is what Trump wants, WWE style politics.

    To be fair though.
    WWE is highly rated amongst you muricans.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,442
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    brianlux said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    And you may be right. But what about trying to put an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate?

    I don't know much about DiMassimo or his prowess at utilizing strategy but it seems to me that he did a good job of using the media (McCluhanism at its best) to make a point that reached a lot of ears and minds.

    brian, the sooner you accept that as long as mankind is alive there will never be an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate, the better off you'll be. there has never been peace and there never will be. its human nature.. and so long as humans walk the earth there always will be conflict and discontent. its a sad indictment on us as a species but i believe no matter how big our brain is and how much we'd like to think we're above animalistic actions, we're not. though having said that it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I just think we need to redirect our efforts into ending the root causes of those conflicts ie lack of food and water security, poverty, inaccess to education etc...
    These are very good points, Cate. Viewed from that perspective, my own belief is that to go to the root cause of all our problems we need to start working very soon and very hard on cleaning up our oceans and protecting marine life. Everything hinges on that. If we did that and secured our viability as a species, then solving problems of lack of food and water etc would come next in priorities, for sure. It's just that besides these things, I have a really, really big problem with hatred against groups of humans for whatever reason.
    hate requires so much negative energy I don't know how anyone can be bothered with it. what the hells the point of hate anyway???

    as a species I dint think humans are viable long term. we are our own worst enemy and the biggest threat to ourselves. sadly the turnaround required to extend our longevity on this planet is beyond us... and that's okay in the big scheme of things cause perhaps we weren't meant to last that long anyways. everything has a used by date.. except crocodiles, those magnificent beings have been around for so much longer than we could ever hope to be. and that in itself is a valuable lesson for the so called most intelligent creature on earth. why have crocs lasted so long? they are perfect biologically and have adapted to their environment in kind... something mankind seems incapable of doing. we're so intent on bending everything in our environment to our will we dont stop and think that perhaps a more symbiotic relationship is needed for survival. but as I said before perhaps we as a species just aren't meant to last all that long. we surely cant be the epitome of primate evolution... or then again maybe we are; which is a sad thought indeed. so much potential wasted... such a big brain wasted on destruction of self and environment.

    So true!

    "Love and Only Love will break it down
    Hate is everything you think it is."
    -Neil Young
    Except you hate Trump.
    I do? When did I say I hate Trump? I am greatly disturbed by what he stands for and I'm very concerned that so many people fall for his crap but why would I hate Donald Trump? That's like saying I hate venomous snakes or tsunamis that kill people or falling rocks that give people concussions. Donald Trump is a piece of the living earth as are snakes, tsunamis and rocks. You cannot hate a part of the planet without hating the whole and I do not hate our planet. I love our planet so in a strange way, I love Donald Trump. But do I love what he stands for and the hatred he promotes. No way! You may think I'm being facetious, but I am not.
    Oh. My bad I guess. Confusing your calling of Trump "Hitler" to be hate. I see now how one can be mistaken. Like when people state that Trump "hates" mexicans...wait...does he hate them? They are pieces of the living earth. Maybe he loves them as well?
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    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    catefrances said:

    brianlux said:

    And you may be right. But what about trying to put an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate?

    I don't know much about DiMassimo or his prowess at utilizing strategy but it seems to me that he did a good job of using the media (McCluhanism at its best) to make a point that reached a lot of ears and minds.

    brian, the sooner you accept that as long as mankind is alive there will never be an end to racism, misogyny, xenophobia and hate, the better off you'll be. there has never been peace and there never will be. its human nature.. and so long as humans walk the earth there always will be conflict and discontent. its a sad indictment on us as a species but i believe no matter how big our brain is and how much we'd like to think we're above animalistic actions, we're not. though having said that it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I just think we need to redirect our efforts into ending the root causes of those conflicts ie lack of food and water security, poverty, inaccess to education etc...
    These are very good points, Cate. Viewed from that perspective, my own belief is that to go to the root cause of all our problems we need to start working very soon and very hard on cleaning up our oceans and protecting marine life. Everything hinges on that. If we did that and secured our viability as a species, then solving problems of lack of food and water etc would come next in priorities, for sure. It's just that besides these things, I have a really, really big problem with hatred against groups of humans for whatever reason.
    hate requires so much negative energy I don't know how anyone can be bothered with it. what the hells the point of hate anyway???

    as a species I dint think humans are viable long term. we are our own worst enemy and the biggest threat to ourselves. sadly the turnaround required to extend our longevity on this planet is beyond us... and that's okay in the big scheme of things cause perhaps we weren't meant to last that long anyways. everything has a used by date.. except crocodiles, those magnificent beings have been around for so much longer than we could ever hope to be. and that in itself is a valuable lesson for the so called most intelligent creature on earth. why have crocs lasted so long? they are perfect biologically and have adapted to their environment in kind... something mankind seems incapable of doing. we're so intent on bending everything in our environment to our will we dont stop and think that perhaps a more symbiotic relationship is needed for survival. but as I said before perhaps we as a species just aren't meant to last all that long. we surely cant be the epitome of primate evolution... or then again maybe we are; which is a sad thought indeed. so much potential wasted... such a big brain wasted on destruction of self and environment.

    So true!

    "Love and Only Love will break it down
    Hate is everything you think it is."
    -Neil Young
    Except you hate Trump.
    I do? When did I say I hate Trump? I am greatly disturbed by what he stands for and I'm very concerned that so many people fall for his crap but why would I hate Donald Trump? That's like saying I hate venomous snakes or tsunamis that kill people or falling rocks that give people concussions. Donald Trump is a piece of the living earth as are snakes, tsunamis and rocks. You cannot hate a part of the planet without hating the whole and I do not hate our planet. I love our planet so in a strange way, I love Donald Trump. But do I love what he stands for and the hatred he promotes. No way! You may think I'm being facetious, but I am not.
    Oh. My bad I guess. Confusing your calling of Trump "Hitler" to be hate. I see now how one can be mistaken. Like when people state that Trump "hates" mexicans...wait...does he hate them? They are pieces of the living earth. Maybe he loves them as well?
    i don't think anybody is calling trump hitler.

    but they are comparing his rise to hitler's rise. not just liberals, but actual historians. scholars who have studied nazi germany their whole lives are citing similarities. watch a documentary on hitler's rise and the similarities are striking.

    you can't be full hitler until you start blaming jews for your problems.

    trump blames illegal immigrants for our problems.

    he blames people on welfare or unemployed for our problems.

    he blames muslims for our problems.

    he blames protesters for his problems.

    he has blamed sanders for his problems. but blaming one jewish person does not make him hitler.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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