2016 Pearl Jam Lookwright 7 & 12 Inch Vinyl Record Crates

Jammalambo

When I read the march mail newsletter, I thought to myself "well, cool, I'll gladly spend about 20$ for the 7" one so I can store the holiday singles all together.. clicked on the link, saw the price, said "Porca troia, col cazzo!" (translation: "Holy fuckin shit, no way!") Then I had dinner.
That's all I have to say about this, except I still remember when PJ was more about the music than this ridiculous stuff.

F Me In The Brain

Porca troia, col cazzo!

Tim Simmons

Jammalambo said:

That's all I have to say about this, except I still remember when PJ was more about the music than this ridiculous stuff.

I think its more of an indictment of the fanbase than the band.

PJ_Soul

Jammalambo said:

When I read the march mail newsletter, I thought to myself "well, cool, I'll gladly spend about 20$ for the 7" one so I can store the holiday singles all together.. clicked on the link, saw the price, said "Porca troia, col cazzo!" (translation: "Holy fuckin shit, no way!") Then I had dinner.
That's all I have to say about this, except I still remember when PJ was more about the music than this ridiculous stuff.

Yeah, it would be really nice to have an affordable 7" PJ vinyl storage solution. I understand that 10C wants to use high quality materials and stuff made in the US and handcrafted and all that, but this is over the top, and IMO shows a bit of a lack of understanding of and empathy for the fans. They seem to be choosing items that Eddie Vedder and his famous friends might buy, because he's stinking rich and can afford high end everything, including tiny hand-painted camping mugs and $100 wooden boxes, rather than choosing what their normal, mostly middle class fan base would buy. Surely there is a middle ground, where it's not crap from China, but also not completely out of 90% of the fans' price range. I mean, sure there are some people who are fanatical enough to throw too much money at any item with a PJ logo on it... but is offering a lot of high end, very expensive band merch to a very loyal fan base the right thing to do? I would say no.
Of course it is our right not to buy it, and many of us won't.... But the lack of normal, affordable options for the best merch ideas, like vinyl crates and coffee mugs, just doesn't quite seem fair. The affordable stuff is always garbage, and the nice stuff is way too pricey.

I'm saying this as someone who has no interest at all in vinyl crates btw, no matter what they cost. I'm just talking about the general principle of it.

Zod

I agree with most of the comments. It's cool they listened and put out some vinyl boxes. They are expensive. I have other ways to store vinyl so I can live without them. I think most of the comments are fairly polite. They like that the band came out with them, but would of liked to have seen a more cost effective version.

I don't think there's any problem with those arguments. I might consider buying one if they came out with a cheaper version. It's just PJ merch and I don't have to buy it. Good on the people that really wanted this and are willing to buy them. Better than not making them?

PJ_Soul

Oh and btw, Santos's snarky replies make me snicker, and TBH, I think he shows a lot of restraint. I don't feel iike we should be comparing the 10C and its employees to normal businesses anyhow. I want the 10C staff to be casual with the fans so that maybe we can get personalized updates and info. I don't want Santos to start acting like a fucking customer service operator.

lolobugg

Jammalambo said:

When I read the march mail newsletter, I thought to myself "well, cool, I'll gladly spend about 20$ for the 7" one so I can store the holiday singles all together.. clicked on the link, saw the price, said "Porca troia, col cazzo!" (translation: "Holy fuckin shit, no way!") Then I had dinner.
That's all I have to say about this, except I still remember when PJ was more about the music than this ridiculous stuff.

PJ_Soul said:

Jammalambo said:

When I read the march mail newsletter, I thought to myself "well, cool, I'll gladly spend about 20$ for the 7" one so I can store the holiday singles all together.. clicked on the link, saw the price, said "Porca troia, col cazzo!" (translation: "Holy fuckin shit, no way!") Then I had dinner.
That's all I have to say about this, except I still remember when PJ was more about the music than this ridiculous stuff.

Yeah, it would be really nice to have an affordable 7" PJ vinyl storage solution. I understand that 10C wants to use high quality materials and stuff made in the US and handcrafted and all that, but this is over the top, and IMO shows a bit of a lack of understanding of and empathy for the fans. They seem to be choosing items that Eddie Vedder and his famous friends might buy, because he's stinking rich and can afford high end everything, including tiny hand-painted camping mugs and $100 wooden boxes, rather than choosing what their normal, mostly middle class fan base would buy. Surely there is a middle ground, where it's not crap from China, but also not completely out of 90% of the fans' price range. I mean, sure there are some people who are fanatical enough to throw too much money at any item with a PJ logo on it... but is offering a lot of high end, very expensive band merch to a very loyal fan base the right thing to do? I would say no.
Of course it is our right not to buy it, and many of us won't.... But the lack of normal, affordable options for the best merch ideas, like vinyl crates and coffee mugs, just doesn't quite seem fair. The affordable stuff is always garbage, and the nice stuff is way too pricey.

I'm saying this as someone who has no interest at all in vinyl crates btw, no matter what they cost. I'm just talking about the general principle of it.

Zod said:

I agree with most of the comments. It's cool they listened and out some vinyl boxes. They are expensive. I have other ways to store vinyl so I can live without them. I think most of the comments are fairly polite. They like that the band came out with them, but would of liked to have seen a more cost effect version.

I don't think there's any problem with those arguments. I might consider buying one if they came out with a cheaper version. It's just PJ merch I don't have to buy it. Good on the people that really wanted this and are willing to buy them. Better than not making them?

I agree with all these post. I appreciate what they're trying to do but Jack White has definitely beat them to the gold standard. I don't think we're asking for wooden crates. Just a nice box to put all the PJ singles in or Christmas singles in that we have. Strangely enough already made my own from a vintage case and I finally had a reason to use the Day of the Dead stickers. all over it. Support your local manufacturer but goddammit support yr working fans too. Not all of us are Rolling in it. Shout out to Fme. Santos what's that RNDM gig paying?

StevieG

Maybe they should make these an Analog members renewal gift instead of stickers, luggage tags or a crappy shirt. We could assemble them ourselves, even pay for shipping.

Considering the thousands of $ if not more that most members have spent over the years on tix, music, merch, it certainly would be a nice gesture. Probably only cost 10c a few dollars a piece to have them made. Thoughts?

F Me In The Brain

Yeah I don't think you need to be friends with Ed to buy one.
That's it, now I'm buying one Lolo!

F Me In The Brain

BTW I like my mugs, four beautiful little gems.

lolobugg

F Me In The Brain said:

Yeah I don't think you need to be friends with Ed to buy one.
That's it, now I'm buying one Lolo!

Right on your blackness

BS44325

The fans on here never cease to amaze me. Here we have a collective of people who almost universally support a living and/or minimum wage and demand for things to made locally. Yet when it comes to payment time to support "6 local businesses and it's employees" most of you scream bloody murder. These boxes are craftsmanship and take a small team to produce. If you want things made in america and a living wage for those who produce these things then recognize/accept what it costs. This is someone's livelihood.

PJ_Soul

BS44325 said:

The fans on here never cease to amaze me. Here we have a collective of people who almost universally support a living and/or minimum wage and demand for things to made locally. Yet when it comes to payment time to support "6 local businesses and it's employees" most of you scream bloody murder. These boxes are craftsmanship and take a small team to produce. If you want things made in america and a living wage for those who produce these things then recognize/accept what it costs. This is someone's livelihood.

I'd actually advocate for everything being made in Canada.

nm219369

These crates are very nice and very expensive especially being Canadian. the part that got to me was the mention of the Ikea shelf. Wouldn't it be the equivalent of putting solid gold accents on a Ford Fiesta?

Suziemay

nm219369 said:

These crates are very nice and very expensive especially being Canadian. the part that got to me was the mention of the Ikea shelf. Wouldn't it be the equivalent of putting solid gold accents on a Ford Fiesta?

The crates are designed for people who need to tote their records around. The company founder is a DJ (Mitch Manchild, no I did not make up that name). So it makes sense to me that the manufacturer is just giving a useful tidbit based on the most prevalent shelving choice. I don't think these crates are meant as your permanent record storage and it really doesn't make sense to buy them to then put them into shelves unless you're gonna be pulling them in and out to carry them some place.

Or you get them because of the novelty. If you need record storage for your home these wouldn't be what I turn to unless you have a very small collection and just need a crate or two.

Not5

Easy buy for this guy!!

BS44325

nm219369 said:

These crates are very nice and very expensive especially being Canadian. the part that got to me was the mention of the Ikea shelf. Wouldn't it be the equivalent of putting solid gold accents on a Ford Fiesta?

Except we all use a Kallax don't we? It's pretty much the vinyl storage gold standard. I just bought a new one from ikea last week as my old one is at capacity.

PJ_Soul

BS44325 said:

nm219369 said:

These crates are very nice and very expensive especially being Canadian. the part that got to me was the mention of the Ikea shelf. Wouldn't it be the equivalent of putting solid gold accents on a Ford Fiesta?

Except we all use a Kallax don't we? It's pretty much the vinyl storage gold standard. I just bought a new one from ikea last week as my old one is at capacity.

Yeah, I agree. The expedit and the kallax are pretty much the best you can get at any price after custom-built IMO. Not everything good has to be expensive!

giventofly69

I don't collect vinyl. And other than 2 posters, 4 t-shirts and CDs/10C singles, I don't have any other PJ merch. IMHO, I think the wood crates look nice. And I like that they are made locally by real people and that the material is wood, (as opposed to some mass manufactured plastic stuff, imported from overseas).
If you want to support small local business and have quality materials, you've gotta pay a bit more. Just my 2 cents.

Hobbes

^^^^ more like 10,000 cents.