Trump

Thirty Bills Unpaid

wndowpayne said:

Laughable. And really laughable when, arguably, the most intelligent Trump supporters on this board try to sell a weary and wise public voted for Trump to shake up the establishment. How is this shaking up the establishment? This is a private party reserved for the firmly established. There's been no change and in my mind... situations like this make the entire debacle even more grotesque.

I'll say it again in the event it was missed: Trump was elected because half of the population are simple fools and they were more enthusiastic physically voting. The wiser half of the population could never have imagined such a reality and now... they have to sit there and go, "Fuck."

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
You forgot to mention the 1% that voted the next POTUS in.
You mention half and half, what are you?

JC29856

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

wndowpayne said:

Laughable. And really laughable when, arguably, the most intelligent Trump supporters on this board try to sell a weary and wise public voted for Trump to shake up the establishment. How is this shaking up the establishment? This is a private party reserved for the firmly established. There's been no change and in my mind... situations like this make the entire debacle even more grotesque.

I'll say it again in the event it was missed: Trump was elected because half of the population are simple fools and they were more enthusiastic physically voting. The wiser half of the population could never have imagined such a reality and now... they have to sit there and go, "Fuck."

Yes sir.

https://youtu.be/qD9PmDF2ZfY

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
Fuck JC you come through in the clutch.
So glad this explains why President-elect Trump won.

Degeneratefk

JC29856 said:

Degeneratefk said:

JC29856 said:

CNN fired black woman Donna Brazile for colluding with the Clinton campaign, but still employs white male Wolf Blitzer for doing the same thing.
RACISM AND SEXISM AT CNN

That woman was part of the Clinton campaign. Was wolfe?

I love your use of "that woman"!


https://youtu.be/KiIP_KDQmXs

Really? Your point was pointless and you come back with more pointless information?

JC29856

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Fuck JC you come through in the clutch.
So glad this explains why President-elect Trump won.

THE ANTHEM
Don't watch that before bed, I made that mistake last night and was so inspired, I was up until 430am building my kid a tree house. Once I finish watching my mate on below deck tonight, I'll head to the man cave, crank the speakers and rewatch that video.

JC29856

Degeneratefk said:

JC29856 said:

Degeneratefk said:

JC29856 said:

CNN fired black woman Donna Brazile for colluding with the Clinton campaign, but still employs white male Wolf Blitzer for doing the same thing.
RACISM AND SEXISM AT CNN

That woman was part of the Clinton campaign. Was wolfe?

I love your use of "that woman"!


https://youtu.be/KiIP_KDQmXs

Really? Your point was pointless and you come back with more pointless information?

If a CNN "personality" were colluding with the Clinton campaign by feeding them debate questions hosted by CNN, would you suspect the one working directly with the campaign or the one not working with the campaign?
Which of the CNN personalies should be held to the higher standard, a guest commentator or the network everyday anchor that is the face of CNN?

JC29856

PjfanWNL1...how about this one? These are the out of touch leaders of the Dem party the Hollywood stars and fake news pushers.

https://youtu.be/PyEXshBOwEU

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
You forgot to mention the 1% that voted the next POTUS in.
You mention half and half, what are you?

I'm not anything.

I'm a neutral observer. I'm just sitting back saying "Wow. That dipshit actually got elected." And then I typically laugh and shake my head. Maybe make a Cletus joke or two.

You're a neutral observer as well too, eh? People around here probably don't know that given the way you seem to salivate over the idea of him and his orangeness.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Sorry... Fan...

For the record: has this been one long running monologue of yours with the intent to mock Trump and his supporters...

... or are you actually this smitten with him?

It's hard to tell.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Sorry... Fan...
For the record: has this been one long running monologue of yours with the intent to mock Trump and his supporters...
... or are you actually this smitten with him?
It's hard to tell.

Don't be sorry it's a sign of weakness for the record.
I am smitten w/ President-elect Trump only when he gets my vote.

dignin

JC29856 said:

Degeneratefk said:

JC29856 said:

Degeneratefk said:

JC29856 said:

CNN fired black woman Donna Brazile for colluding with the Clinton campaign, but still employs white male Wolf Blitzer for doing the same thing.
RACISM AND SEXISM AT CNN

That woman was part of the Clinton campaign. Was wolfe?

I love your use of "that woman"!


https://youtu.be/KiIP_KDQmXs

Really? Your point was pointless and you come back with more pointless information?

If a CNN "personality" were colluding with the Clinton campaign by feeding them debate questions hosted by CNN, would you suspect the one working directly with the campaign or the one not working with the campaign?
Which of the CNN personalies should be held to the higher standard, a guest commentator or the network everyday anchor that is the face of CNN?

You've been duped that this matters.

When the forward thinking are focusing their attention on the person who is going to the white house and changing their lives, here you are worrying about one person passing a debate question to a failed campaign.

You're living in the past, that will have no relevance on your future.

tbergs

The whole transition process is being treated like an episode of celebrity apprentice. Trump tosses out random names and purposely incites people just for the hell of it. Somebody mentioned it earlier, but he does these things to get a rise out of the left and media and then acts like he never actually was going to do what was implied. He's treating it all like a reality show. I have no doubt that the whole Conway/Romney/Giulianni disagreement was a stunt to see how people reacted. It's sickening to see a president act in such a juvenile manner.

JC29856

dignin said:

JC29856 said:

Degeneratefk said:

JC29856 said:

Degeneratefk said:

JC29856 said:

CNN fired black woman Donna Brazile for colluding with the Clinton campaign, but still employs white male Wolf Blitzer for doing the same thing.
RACISM AND SEXISM AT CNN

That woman was part of the Clinton campaign. Was wolfe?

I love your use of "that woman"!


https://youtu.be/KiIP_KDQmXs

Really? Your point was pointless and you come back with more pointless information?

If a CNN "personality" were colluding with the Clinton campaign by feeding them debate questions hosted by CNN, would you suspect the one working directly with the campaign or the one not working with the campaign?
Which of the CNN personalies should be held to the higher standard, a guest commentator or the network everyday anchor that is the face of CNN?

You've been duped that this matters.

When the forward thinking are focusing their attention on the person who is going to the white house and changing their lives, here you are worrying about one person passing a debate question to a failed campaign.

You're living in the past, that will have no relevance on your future.

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BS44325

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Only a neocon like BS would try to convince you that progress hasn't been made by withdrawing US troops from Iraq and subsequently going back in with support of a much lighter US footprint, in the form of special forces and trainers and encouraging the Iraqi's to fight for their country than his proclaimed hard and heavy occupation of 170,000+ that he's advocated for. Question is, will Trump invade Iraq? Iran? and/or Syria to eradicate ISIS and radical Islam as he promised to do? If not, how will he keep his campaign promise?

Comparing Iraqi civilian deaths in the 6 years of the Bush Administration to the 6 and 8 years of the Obama Administration, we can see that progress was made:

2003-2008 Bush: 105,934
2009-2014 Obama: 48,341. Add 2015 and 2016 under Obama: 81,007. Still a difference of 24,927.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/269729/documented-civilian-deaths-in-iraq-war-since-2003/

IMHO, even one Iraqi death is too many for a war that wasn't necessary, started under false pretenses and was poorly executed.

Lets take a look at US casualties while were at it:

2003-2008 Bush: 4,222
2009-2012 Obama: 264

And the drain on the US Treasury:

2003-2008 Bush: $589.3 Billion
2009-2012 Obama: $218.1 Billion

https://www.statista.com/statistics/269827/iraq-war-spending-and-number-us-soldier-fatalities/

Remove either the first two or last two years from the Bush years and the casualties and cost to the treasury are still more under Bush.

Now, who's decision came with more terrible consequences both immediate and in the aftermath? And who opened Pandora's Box or started the "controlled burn" as you so pleasantly referred to waging war on innocents?

Did you include Syrian and Libyan deaths in these numbers?

Feel free to provide them and then make the case why the US should either be involved in preventing them or why they are Obama's responsibility. Remember, who opened Pandora's Box?

Ha. So you didn't include them. That makes your comparison data meaningless. Way to turn in the assignment incomplete. F+. Click.

vaggar99

HughFreakingDillon said:

he trolled the right, and handily. it got him elected on promises he can never deliver on.

the more ESP lies the more his people love him. Its like they think he's speaking in some special code to them.

JC29856

vaggar99 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

he trolled the right, and handily. it got him elected on promises he can never deliver on.

the more ESP lies the more his people love him. Its like they think he's speaking in some special code to them.

Special code:

“hotdog” = boy

“pizza” = girl

“cheese” = little girl

“pasta” = little boy

“ice cream” = male prostitute

“walnut” = person of colour

“map” = semen

“sauce” = orgy

vaggar99

you basically have millions thumbing there nose at those who seek the facts. bad situation here in the US.

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Only a neocon like BS would try to convince you that progress hasn't been made by withdrawing US troops from Iraq and subsequently going back in with support of a much lighter US footprint, in the form of special forces and trainers and encouraging the Iraqi's to fight for their country than his proclaimed hard and heavy occupation of 170,000+ that he's advocated for. Question is, will Trump invade Iraq? Iran? and/or Syria to eradicate ISIS and radical Islam as he promised to do? If not, how will he keep his campaign promise?

Comparing Iraqi civilian deaths in the 6 years of the Bush Administration to the 6 and 8 years of the Obama Administration, we can see that progress was made:

2003-2008 Bush: 105,934
2009-2014 Obama: 48,341. Add 2015 and 2016 under Obama: 81,007. Still a difference of 24,927.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/269729/documented-civilian-deaths-in-iraq-war-since-2003/

IMHO, even one Iraqi death is too many for a war that wasn't necessary, started under false pretenses and was poorly executed.

Lets take a look at US casualties while were at it:

2003-2008 Bush: 4,222
2009-2012 Obama: 264

And the drain on the US Treasury:

2003-2008 Bush: $589.3 Billion
2009-2012 Obama: $218.1 Billion

https://www.statista.com/statistics/269827/iraq-war-spending-and-number-us-soldier-fatalities/

Remove either the first two or last two years from the Bush years and the casualties and cost to the treasury are still more under Bush.

Now, who's decision came with more terrible consequences both immediate and in the aftermath? And who opened Pandora's Box or started the "controlled burn" as you so pleasantly referred to waging war on innocents?

Did you include Syrian and Libyan deaths in these numbers?

Feel free to provide them and then make the case why the US should either be involved in preventing them or why they are Obama's responsibility. Remember, who opened Pandora's Box?

Ha. So you didn't include them. That makes your comparison data meaningless. Way to turn in the assignment incomplete. F+. Click.

Care to climb down from your elitist ivory tower and mingle with the little people or are you certain, like GWB, in your neocon ideology's perfection? "Peace through strength" and "compassionate conservatism" my ass. Intellectual dishonesty, absolutely.

It's all okay because Trump is going to fix it all.

CM189191

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Only a neocon like BS would try to convince you that progress hasn't been made by withdrawing US troops from Iraq and subsequently going back in with support of a much lighter US footprint, in the form of special forces and trainers and encouraging the Iraqi's to fight for their country than his proclaimed hard and heavy occupation of 170,000+ that he's advocated for. Question is, will Trump invade Iraq? Iran? and/or Syria to eradicate ISIS and radical Islam as he promised to do? If not, how will he keep his campaign promise?

Comparing Iraqi civilian deaths in the 6 years of the Bush Administration to the 6 and 8 years of the Obama Administration, we can see that progress was made:

2003-2008 Bush: 105,934
2009-2014 Obama: 48,341. Add 2015 and 2016 under Obama: 81,007. Still a difference of 24,927.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/269729/documented-civilian-deaths-in-iraq-war-since-2003/

IMHO, even one Iraqi death is too many for a war that wasn't necessary, started under false pretenses and was poorly executed.

Lets take a look at US casualties while were at it:

2003-2008 Bush: 4,222
2009-2012 Obama: 264

And the drain on the US Treasury:

2003-2008 Bush: $589.3 Billion
2009-2012 Obama: $218.1 Billion

https://www.statista.com/statistics/269827/iraq-war-spending-and-number-us-soldier-fatalities/

Remove either the first two or last two years from the Bush years and the casualties and cost to the treasury are still more under Bush.

Now, who's decision came with more terrible consequences both immediate and in the aftermath? And who opened Pandora's Box or started the "controlled burn" as you so pleasantly referred to waging war on innocents?

Did you include Syrian and Libyan deaths in these numbers?

Feel free to provide them and then make the case why the US should either be involved in preventing them or why they are Obama's responsibility. Remember, who opened Pandora's Box?

Ha. So you didn't include them. That makes your comparison data meaningless. Way to turn in the assignment incomplete. F+. Click.

Care to climb down from your elitist ivory tower and mingle with the little people or are you certain, like GWB, in your neocon ideology's perfection? "Peace through strength" and "compassionate conservatism" my ass. Intellectual dishonesty, absolutely.

It's all okay because Trump is going to fix it all.

I feel like it oscillates between intellectual dishonesty and willful ignorance.