Trump

vaggar99

^^what do you mean? I could understand her okay

Best line:

"I tried to polite but now I just dont give a damn. Because let's be honest, we don't live in polite America. We live in grab em by the pussy America now. So thank you for that."

i almost fell on the floor after she said that.

PJfanwillneverleave1

It just occurred to me that the next State of the Union Address will be from President-elect Trump.

vaggar99

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

It just occurred to me that the next State of the Union Address will be from President-elect Trump.

keep laughing Canada. Your time will come.

vogonpoetbythelake

DESIDERATA or something like that thanks...

JC29856

$25M tax write off.
Of course, the real cost to Mr. Trump is after tax, not before it. And most business settlements are fully tax deductible. The only part that arguably may not be here is the $1 million in penalties. But barring express non-deductibility commitments, many penalties can be deducted, too. In general, fines and penalties paid to the government are not deductible. Section 162(f) of the tax code prohibits deducting ‘‘any fine or similar penalty paid to a government for the violation of any law.’’

benjs

vaggar99 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

It just occurred to me that the next State of the Union Address will be from President-elect Trump.

keep laughing Canada. Your time will come.

Many of us up here aren't laughing for precisely that reason. We are not impervious to fear, influence from inner demons like racism, or unsubstantiated promises of a politician to carry out our desires.

vaggar99

is everyone on this thread from Canada?!?!?!. Am I debating the validity of this president with a bunch of Canadians? Not surprising considering the complete indifference of Americans.

JC29856

vaggar99 said:

is everyone on this thread from Canada?!?!?!. Am I debating the validity of this president with a bunch of Canadians? Not surprising considering the complete indifference of Americans.

Eh... Hosehead, once you get there you can have all the free beer and sausages you want.

mickeyrat

HughFreakingDillon said:

befuddled. lol

right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this apparently ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?

vaggar99

^^yeah

HughFreakingDillon

vaggar99 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

It just occurred to me that the next State of the Union Address will be from President-elect Trump.

keep laughing Canada. Your time will come.

aw, how sweet. thanks!

Gern Blansten

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-hillary-clinton-receives-higher-post-election-grades-than-donald-trump/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab6a&linkId=31390769

A historical first....

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

befuddled. lol

right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this appatent ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?

Do you think many never bothered voting because they assumed Rump had no chance and they didn't need to?

Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?

Gern Blansten

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306990-trump-appeared-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

befuddled. lol

right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this appatent ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?

Do you think many never bothered voting because they assumed Rump had no chance and they didn't need to?

Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?

I think many didn't vote on BOTH sides because they assumed Hillary was going to win in a landslide. had the media projections of Clinton's victory would have been a lot closer, we could have seen a much different result. then again, we may not have. it's really impossible to say. especially with how usless polls have shown to be.

JC29856

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/306989-trump-to-meet-with-dem-rep-tulsi-gabbard

UN ambassador!

vaggar99

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

befuddled. lol

right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this appatent ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?

Do you think many never bothered voting because they assumed Rump had no chance and they didn't need to?

Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?

I think many didn't vote on BOTH sides because they assumed Hillary was going to win in a landslide. had the media projections of Clinton's victory would have been a lot closer, we could have seen a much different result. then again, we may not have. it's really impossible to say. especially with how usless polls have shown to be.

^^^probably so

mickeyrat

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

befuddled. lol

right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this appatent ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?

Do you think many never bothered voting because they assumed Rump had no chance and they didn't need to?

Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?

wasnt just this election. slightly lower turnout than 2012 and well below 2008. 40-45% nonparticipation in presidential years and 60% or better nonparticipation years during midterms and much less for local (at least near me).

so please , tell me again how not voting serves us? Seems to me not voting in large part brought us to this point now.

oftenreading

Interesting article about the concept of fake news that, surprise surprise, includes many of the fake news stories discussed on AMT over the past few weeks.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/the-problem-with-fake-news-is-not-supply-its-demand/article32924694/

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mickeyrat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

befuddled. lol

right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this appatent ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?

Do you think many never bothered voting because they assumed Rump had no chance and they didn't need to?

Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?

wasnt just this election. slightly lower turnout than 2012 and well below 2008. 40-45% nonparticipation in presidential years and 60% or better nonparticipation years during midterms and much less for local (at least near me).

so please , tell me again how not voting serves us? Seems to me not voting in large part brought us to this point now.

I ask because I'm wondering if people might reassess their levels of apathy given the reality of what has happened.

In the event the non-voting base was in the same proportion as those who voted... my question would be moot.

In the past, I haven't been a big fan of the current systems and looked at my vote as somewhat meaningless; however, I did vote in our last federal election (we had a donkey we needed to rid ourselves of)... and your election result speaks to the value of a vote.