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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited November 2016
    ^^^
    The we?
    Are we not responsible enough to teach our children to vote?
    Don't blame anyone but yourself the President-elect Trump will be taking the whitehouse.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    ^^^oh trust me...i do blame myself. i fell asleep. never thought this psycho could win
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    So what are you and others who feel this way going to do to ensure the next POTUS is not Trump?
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    vaggar99 said:

    ^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

    Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^oh trust me...i do blame myself. i fell asleep. never thought this psycho could win

    Some believe eliminationist rhetoric is psycho.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    edited November 2016
    ^^^good question. too early to give a detailed answer. i can tell you that i have every intention of following through on my plans to join the impeachment movement (if there is one and unnervingly there does not seem to be).
    We are going to have to dig deep for the next 'good guy'. We thought we had it with Obama. But apparently not. There seems to be a very large section of the population that will never like him. But, theres also a good number who did like him but feel betrayed by him. And those are the ones I want to know more about.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited November 2016
    ^^^
    There used to be a poster on here called give me something truth or truth give me I can't remember.
    But anyhow, President-elect Trump has defied all odds and I'm not a betting man.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

    Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.
    BS. If you thought this was an attack on you it wasnt. more of a generalize into how I believe Trumpism has come about.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

    Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.
    BS. If you thought this was an attack on you it wasnt. more of a generalize into how I believe Trumpism has come about.
    Oh I understood. You have previous argued against the idea of elitism but you are downplaying people's "deeply needy need". You admit you were asleep and didn't think Trump could win but you have learnt zero lessons. If you want to beat Trump in 2020 then try understand people's needs, develop a platform and win an election. Right now you are committed to impeachment and that plan will not only go nowhere but will be completely self-defeating. Your approach is infantile. You're still asleep.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    edited November 2016
    ^^^I used the 'deeply needy need' phrase to describe T. in an earlier post. Not sure how you think I have learnt zero lessons. You are right, I am trying to understand people's needs. I am not a politician. I can't even run. I'm scheduled to be deported soon. Impeachment will move forward. Awake but in need of some uppers

    Seriously don't mean to sound condescending even though I probably did. Its frustrating you know. I just want to see society moving forward. Not just in a way that takes some boring chart to quantify but in a way that we all feel. it is possible

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

    Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.
    BS. If you thought this was an attack on you it wasnt. more of a generalize into how I believe Trumpism has come about.
    Oh I understood. You have previous argued against the idea of elitism but you are downplaying people's "deeply needy need". You admit you were asleep and didn't think Trump could win but you have learnt zero lessons. If you want to beat Trump in 2020 then try understand people's needs, develop a platform and win an election. Right now you are committed to impeachment and that plan will not only go nowhere but will be completely self-defeating. Your approach is infantile. You're still asleep.
    I think you're giving too much credit to Trump voters.

    While on one hand many voters did so to thumb their noses at the establishment... many, if not most, voted for the idiot for very poor reasons.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

    Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.
    BS. If you thought this was an attack on you it wasnt. more of a generalize into how I believe Trumpism has come about.
    Oh I understood. You have previous argued against the idea of elitism but you are downplaying people's "deeply needy need". You admit you were asleep and didn't think Trump could win but you have learnt zero lessons. If you want to beat Trump in 2020 then try understand people's needs, develop a platform and win an election. Right now you are committed to impeachment and that plan will not only go nowhere but will be completely self-defeating. Your approach is infantile. You're still asleep.
    I think you're giving too much credit to Trump voters.

    While on one hand many voters did so to thumb their noses at the establishment... many, if not most, voted for the idiot for very poor reasons.
    It is not for anyone to give or not give 60 million people too much credit. It is not for anyone to say that most of 60 million people voted for very poor reasons. When one's brain cannot process the fact that 60 million people voted in what is deemed an unacceptable way it is far easier to denigrate then to look inward. It is a natural human coping mechanism. But it is a mechanism one must resist if they truly want to win an election again. If you really believe people voted for poor reasons then it is encumbent upon you or someone to offer these people a better reason. As of now none is being offered. These people who we "should not give too much credit" are being treated with scorn.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    ^^same happened with Bush. Strange phenomenon that i'm still trying to understand.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^I used the 'deeply needy need' phrase to describe T. in an earlier post. Not sure how you think I have learnt zero lessons. You are right, I am trying to understand people's needs. I am not a politician. I can't even run. I'm scheduled to be deported soon. Impeachment will move forward. Awake but in need of some uppers

    Seriously don't mean to sound condescending even though I probably did. Its frustrating you know. I just want to see society moving forward. Not just in a way that takes some boring chart to quantify but in a way that we all feel. it is possible

    You're scheduled to be deported?
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    ^^^^no just joking!!!!! hahahahahah...but, its true I can't run for the highest office as I was naturalized as a teenager.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    BS44325 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

    Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.
    BS. If you thought this was an attack on you it wasnt. more of a generalize into how I believe Trumpism has come about.
    Oh I understood. You have previous argued against the idea of elitism but you are downplaying people's "deeply needy need". You admit you were asleep and didn't think Trump could win but you have learnt zero lessons. If you want to beat Trump in 2020 then try understand people's needs, develop a platform and win an election. Right now you are committed to impeachment and that plan will not only go nowhere but will be completely self-defeating. Your approach is infantile. You're still asleep.
    I think you're giving too much credit to Trump voters.

    While on one hand many voters did so to thumb their noses at the establishment... many, if not most, voted for the idiot for very poor reasons.
    It is not for anyone to give or not give 60 million people too much credit. It is not for anyone to say that most of 60 million people voted for very poor reasons. When one's brain cannot process the fact that 60 million people voted in what is deemed an unacceptable way it is far easier to denigrate then to look inward. It is a natural human coping mechanism. But it is a mechanism one must resist if they truly want to win an election again. If you really believe people voted for poor reasons then it is encumbent upon you or someone to offer these people a better reason. As of now none is being offered. These people who we "should not give too much credit" are being treated with scorn.
    I can armchair quarterback as much as I want (you do it all the time yourself).

    I'm right and you know it.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    edited November 2016
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    There used to be a poster on here called give me something truth or truth give me I can't remember.
    But anyhow, President-elect Trump has defied all odds and I'm not a betting man.

    he won the election fair and square. and even he cheated, it doesn't matter. his past actions are so heinous that anything he's done in the past 10 years will have to prosecuted while he's in prison.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Now Trump wants safe spaces for Pence lol

    :lol:
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    rgambs said:

    Now Trump wants safe spaces for Pence lol

    :lol:

    ESP is a coward. its pathetic how he tries to use his army of psychos to enforce his authoritarian ways.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    vaggar99 said:

    rgambs said:

    Now Trump wants safe spaces for Pence lol
    :lol:

    ESP is a coward. its pathetic how he tries to use his army of psychos to enforce his authoritarian ways.
    The POTUS has a duty to protect all citizens.
    Why would President-elect Trump not nip the harassment in the bud .
    The sour grape dems and radlibs are so upset that they are just itching to be violent and that shit has to stop.
    There is no reason why President-elect Trump or his staff should feel threatened or harassed in public.
    The outrage from the dems and radlibs is disgusting.
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