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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    https://youtu.be/QOaFsIe9YO0
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    the media didn't elect Donald Trump. He played the people who voted for him like a fiddle. he sold them a myth and they bought it lock stock and barrel.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Media getting what they wanted!
    https://youtu.be/UtJvYdX4GKM
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
    Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
    Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
    Foolish idiot to not overspend Hilliary!

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/trump-spent-about-half-of-what-clinton-did-on-his-way-to-the-presidency.html
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
    Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
    That's on the Donald voter. Just because he won doesn't mean he's smart, for proof look to the American public electing Bush Jr, twice.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
    Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
    That's on the Donald voter. Just because he won doesn't mean he's smart, for proof look to the American public electing Bush Jr, twice.
    Trump and W, no comparison, if McCain elected then I could buy your argument.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
    Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
    That's on the Donald voter. Just because he won doesn't mean he's smart, for proof look to the American public electing Bush Jr, twice.
    Trump and W, no comparison, if McCain elected then I could buy your argument.
    I may be having a Trump voter moment here, I don't understand your point.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
    attention whores are smart like that. he is an attention whore so.......
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
    Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
    That's on the Donald voter. Just because he won doesn't mean he's smart, for proof look to the American public electing Bush Jr, twice.
    Trump and W, no comparison, if McCain elected then I could buy your argument.
    I may be having a Trump voter moment here, I don't understand your point.
    You're comparing voting for W, who was part of a political dynasty, with 22 years of public office experience, former governor who was appointed POTUS by the SC with 271 electoral votes in 2000 and then was re-elected in a post 911 world against a sacrificial lamb John Kerry to Trump with zero political experience who amassed more than 300 electoral votes against the "Clinton's".
    Is that a fair comparison? Or weren't you making the comparison?
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/megyn-kelly-pro-trump-fox-hosts-acting-hannity-says-not-me
    Fox News host Megyn Kelly claimed that some journalists who supported Donald Trump would pre-arrange difficult questions with the real estate mogul to preserve some appearance of neutrality.

    Fox’s Howard Kurtz asked Kelly about the charge, which she laid out in her book “Settle For More,” that hosts on Fox and other networks relied on this arrangement to maintain credibility without putting any actual pressure on Trump’s campaign.

    “Are you suggesting they were play-acting?” Kurtz asked.

    “Yes. It was acting,” she replied, claiming that this information was “confirmed to me by more than one television executive.”


    Kelly, who tangled with Trump repeatedly during the campaign, also wrote in her book that the President-elect routinely offered journalists gifts of free airfare and stays at Trump hotels in exchange for favorable coverage.

    Though Kelly declined to name names, one particularly Trump-friendly Fox host apparently felt he was being called out.

    In a string of tweets on Sunday, Sean Hannity said he had “no idea” who Kelly was referring to, but that he always wanted “real answers” about Trump’s policy proposals.

    Hannity also claimed he “was never offered a thing” from Trump. The “Hannity” star appeared in a pro-Trump campaign video without Fox’s permission and conducted countless softball interviews with him, saying he was allowed to display blatant favoritism towards Trump since he is “not a journalist.”
    Yeah....so this
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  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    JC29856 said:

    Media getting what they wanted!
    https://youtu.be/UtJvYdX4GKM

    man that was some pure comedy gold by the doomsday preppers known as the liberal media
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/megyn-kelly-pro-trump-fox-hosts-acting-hannity-says-not-me

    Fox News host Megyn Kelly claimed that some journalists who supported Donald Trump would pre-arrange difficult questions with the real estate mogul to preserve some appearance of neutrality.

    Fox’s Howard Kurtz asked Kelly about the charge, which she laid out in her book “Settle For More,” that hosts on Fox and other networks relied on this arrangement to maintain credibility without putting any actual pressure on Trump’s campaign.

    “Are you suggesting they were play-acting?” Kurtz asked.

    “Yes. It was acting,” she replied, claiming that this information was “confirmed to me by more than one television executive.”


    Kelly, who tangled with Trump repeatedly during the campaign, also wrote in her book that the President-elect routinely offered journalists gifts of free airfare and stays at Trump hotels in exchange for favorable coverage.

    Though Kelly declined to name names, one particularly Trump-friendly Fox host apparently felt he was being called out.

    In a string of tweets on Sunday, Sean Hannity said he had “no idea” who Kelly was referring to, but that he always wanted “real answers” about Trump’s policy proposals.

    Hannity also claimed he “was never offered a thing” from Trump. The “Hannity” star appeared in a pro-Trump campaign video without Fox’s permission and conducted countless softball interviews with him, saying he was allowed to display blatant favoritism towards Trump since he is “not a journalist.”
    Yeah....so this

    Im guessing Megyn suspected Trump would lose and the timing of her book release would increase sales. I'm not sure if trump winning helps or hurts her book sales?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
    Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
    That's on the Donald voter. Just because he won doesn't mean he's smart, for proof look to the American public electing Bush Jr, twice.
    Trump and W, no comparison, if McCain elected then I could buy your argument.
    I may be having a Trump voter moment here, I don't understand your point.
    You're comparing voting for W, who was part of a political dynasty, with 22 years of public office experience, former governor who was appointed POTUS by the SC with 271 electoral votes in 2000 and then was re-elected in a post 911 world against a sacrificial lamb John Kerry to Trump with zero political experience who amassed more than 300 electoral votes against the "Clinton's".
    Is that a fair comparison? Or weren't you making the comparison?
    Since we were talking about electing dummies I thought my point was clear. Bush Jr = not smart, elected twice. Trump = not smart, elected once...so far. There is no correlation between intelligence and being elected president, Bush Jr proved that.

    Never underestimate an electorate that could elect Bush Jr.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.

    We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.

    Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.

    The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.

    If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
    correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
    Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
    That's on the Donald voter. Just because he won doesn't mean he's smart, for proof look to the American public electing Bush Jr, twice.
    Trump and W, no comparison, if McCain elected then I could buy your argument.
    I may be having a Trump voter moment here, I don't understand your point.
    You're comparing voting for W, who was part of a political dynasty, with 22 years of public office experience, former governor who was appointed POTUS by the SC with 271 electoral votes in 2000 and then was re-elected in a post 911 world against a sacrificial lamb John Kerry to Trump with zero political experience who amassed more than 300 electoral votes against the "Clinton's".
    Is that a fair comparison? Or weren't you making the comparison?
    Since we were talking about electing dummies I thought my point was clear. Bush Jr = not smart, elected twice. Trump = not smart, elected once...so far. There is no correlation between intelligence and being elected president, Bush Jr proved that.

    Never underestimate an electorate that could elect Bush Jr.
    What about other presidents elected, smart or dummies?

    Obama
    Clinton
    Bush Sr
    Reagan
    Carter
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/cashing-in-bigly-in-argentina

    This is the kind of shit that I am afraid of. Why isn't the "liberal" media lighting itself on fire over this?
    Over the weekend, there were a flurry of stories about how Donald Trump and his family are already using the presidency to leverage his overseas businesses as well as his new DC hotel. Well, now there's more. This time in Argentina.

    Here's the background.

    For a number of years, Trump and his Argentine partners have been trying to build a major office building in Buenos Aires. The project has been held up by a series of complications tied to financing, importation of building materials and various permitting requirements.

    According to a report out of Argentina, when Argentine President Mauricio Macri called President-Elect Trump to congratulate him on his election, Trump asked Macri to deal with the permitting issues that are currently holding up the project.

    This comes from one of Argentina's most prominent journalists, Jorge Lanata, in a recent TV appearance. Lanata is quoted here in La Nacion, one of Argentina's most prestigious dailies. Said Lanata: “Macri called him. This still hasn’t emerged but Trump asked for them to authorize a building he’s constructing in Buenos Aires, it wasn’t just a geopolitical chat."

    (For Spanish speakers, here's the original Spanish we've translated: "Macri llo llamó. Todavía no se contó pero Trump le pidió que autorizaran un edificio que él está construyendo en Buenos Aires, no fue solo una charla geo política.")

    Separately, Trump's business partner on the project, Felipe Yaryura, was there on election night at the Trump celebration in New York City.

    Why aren't we hearing about this in the American press?

    Well, remember, no one knew anything about the visit from Trump's Indian business partners until it appeared in the Indian press either. It seems like this is likely happening on many fronts. It's just being hidden from the American press. We only hear about it when it bubbles to the surface in the countries where Trump is pushing his business deals.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Questions, who do you think had more autonomy and control over his campaign, W or Trump? What about campaign staff expertise and experience, who had more, W or Trump?
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