Trump

vaggar99

^^^there was no threat. just a group of people who woke up. I give Pence for maintaining poise as always has and letting ESP be the child.

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
Starts w/ one group calling him out here, one there, one over there, etc.
Next thing you know it's everywhere unchecked and only a matter of time before it turns violent.
Pence and his security detail knew this and he got out of dodge.
The speech wasn't exactly a commendation.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

This is still funny as hell to me.

Wesley Snipes starred in a futuristic movie (Demolition Man) with Sandra Bullock and Stallone where Taco Bell was the fine dining choice. If it had made Donald Rump the president as well...the silly storyline would have been complete.

For the record... I just call 'me as I see 'em. Canada has had a few gaffes as well (well... not on the national scale mind you). Rob Ford gave me a lot of enjoyment as well: fumbling on the football field, running into cameras, acting like an idiot... good times! Good good times.

I guess the difference is that this comedy stems from the common folk- you know... the good 'ol boys that elected this guy. Trump isn't funny outside of the fact he's orange and he doesn't do silly things other than offend (if one finds such offensiveness humorous). Way to go, Cletus. Way to go!

BS44325

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vaggar99 said:

^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.

BS. If you thought this was an attack on you it wasnt. more of a generalize into how I believe Trumpism has come about.

Oh I understood. You have previous argued against the idea of elitism but you are downplaying people's "deeply needy need". You admit you were asleep and didn't think Trump could win but you have learnt zero lessons. If you want to beat Trump in 2020 then try understand people's needs, develop a platform and win an election. Right now you are committed to impeachment and that plan will not only go nowhere but will be completely self-defeating. Your approach is infantile. You're still asleep.

I think you're giving too much credit to Trump voters.

While on one hand many voters did so to thumb their noses at the establishment... many, if not most, voted for the idiot for very poor reasons.

It is not for anyone to give or not give 60 million people too much credit. It is not for anyone to say that most of 60 million people voted for very poor reasons. When one's brain cannot process the fact that 60 million people voted in what is deemed an unacceptable way it is far easier to denigrate then to look inward. It is a natural human coping mechanism. But it is a mechanism one must resist if they truly want to win an election again. If you really believe people voted for poor reasons then it is encumbent upon you or someone to offer these people a better reason. As of now none is being offered. These people who we "should not give too much credit" are being treated with scorn.

I can armchair quarterback as much as I want (you do it all the time yourself).

I'm right and you know it.

Of course you can armchair quarterback...nobody is stopping you. But I'm not sure what exactly you think you are/were right about. Clearly you and many others got the whole outcome of the election wrong. Resist the coping mechanisms.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

BS44325 said:

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BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.

BS. If you thought this was an attack on you it wasnt. more of a generalize into how I believe Trumpism has come about.

Oh I understood. You have previous argued against the idea of elitism but you are downplaying people's "deeply needy need". You admit you were asleep and didn't think Trump could win but you have learnt zero lessons. If you want to beat Trump in 2020 then try understand people's needs, develop a platform and win an election. Right now you are committed to impeachment and that plan will not only go nowhere but will be completely self-defeating. Your approach is infantile. You're still asleep.

I think you're giving too much credit to Trump voters.

While on one hand many voters did so to thumb their noses at the establishment... many, if not most, voted for the idiot for very poor reasons.

It is not for anyone to give or not give 60 million people too much credit. It is not for anyone to say that most of 60 million people voted for very poor reasons. When one's brain cannot process the fact that 60 million people voted in what is deemed an unacceptable way it is far easier to denigrate then to look inward. It is a natural human coping mechanism. But it is a mechanism one must resist if they truly want to win an election again. If you really believe people voted for poor reasons then it is encumbent upon you or someone to offer these people a better reason. As of now none is being offered. These people who we "should not give too much credit" are being treated with scorn.

I can armchair quarterback as much as I want (you do it all the time yourself).

I'm right and you know it.

Of course you can armchair quarterback...nobody is stopping you. But I'm not sure what exactly you think you are/were right about. Clearly you and many others got the whole outcome of the election wrong. Resist the coping mechanisms.

You're speculating that a knowledgeable and angry US general public came out in droves and pushed the establishment out by electing a 'man for the people'.

I'm saying you are wrong. Not entirely, but wrong nonetheless. I'm saying that the result of the election is more precisely based on simple things: a campaign appealing to racists... a campaign appealing to dreams without any substance... and a campaign based on smear and fear tactics.

In other words, Trump recognized half the population were simple in nature and won their vote as horrific as it was for anyone remotely intelligent to stomach. At this point, I'd have to tip my hat to him for that. Gutsy to actually think you could placate the befuddled herd and pull something like this off.

Scary that this might serve as the model for future elections everywhere. Democracies have problems.

HughFreakingDillon

I know plenty of very intelligent and not racist people who were trump supporters, 30, and several other bigotted assholes who weren't . You cant possibly believe everyone who voted for him is a slack jawed yokel.

rgambs

HughFreakingDillon said:

I know plenty of very intelligent and not racist people who were trump supporters, 30, and several other bigotted assholes who weren't . You cant possibly believe everyone who voted for him is a slack jawed yokel.

Really? I don't know a single one out of dozens of Trump voters.

vaggar99

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Starts w/ one group calling him out here, one there, one over there, etc.
Next thing you know it's everywhere unchecked and only a matter of time before it turns violent.
Pence and his security detail knew this and he got out of dodge.
The speech wasn't exactly a commendation.

something needs to said. if individuals choose to be idiots its on them. the resistance is mobilizing. We are stockpiling granola and frozen kale juice. we are in it for the long haul

Thirty Bills Unpaid

HughFreakingDillon said:

I know plenty of very intelligent and not racist people who were trump supporters, 30, and several other bigotted assholes who weren't . You cant possibly believe everyone who voted for him is a slack jawed yokel.

The slack jawed yokel variety of Trump voters was merely one significant demographic voting bloc that had an impact. Of course there were other sorts.

vaggar99

^^^i live in a household with a die hard ESP supporter. He's way smarter and more ambitious than i am, but that's where it stops. i'll let you all figure out the rest.

vaggar99

in case you missed these. We at least have some of the best comedy of all time right now:
SNL:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JUWSLlz0Fdo
Trevor Noah
https://youtu.be/obRAYBt70SE
https://youtu.be/f0KLJoh5-Os
https://youtu.be/5tKOV0KqPlg

more to come

oftenreading

vaggar99 said:

^^^i live in a household with a die hard ESP supporter. He's way smarter and more ambitious than i am, but that's where it stops. i'll let you all figure out the rest.

This is getting funnier and funnier. I particularly liked the kale juice touch.

BS44325

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

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BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.

BS. If you thought this was an attack on you it wasnt. more of a generalize into how I believe Trumpism has come about.

Oh I understood. You have previous argued against the idea of elitism but you are downplaying people's "deeply needy need". You admit you were asleep and didn't think Trump could win but you have learnt zero lessons. If you want to beat Trump in 2020 then try understand people's needs, develop a platform and win an election. Right now you are committed to impeachment and that plan will not only go nowhere but will be completely self-defeating. Your approach is infantile. You're still asleep.

I think you're giving too much credit to Trump voters.

While on one hand many voters did so to thumb their noses at the establishment... many, if not most, voted for the idiot for very poor reasons.

It is not for anyone to give or not give 60 million people too much credit. It is not for anyone to say that most of 60 million people voted for very poor reasons. When one's brain cannot process the fact that 60 million people voted in what is deemed an unacceptable way it is far easier to denigrate then to look inward. It is a natural human coping mechanism. But it is a mechanism one must resist if they truly want to win an election again. If you really believe people voted for poor reasons then it is encumbent upon you or someone to offer these people a better reason. As of now none is being offered. These people who we "should not give too much credit" are being treated with scorn.

I can armchair quarterback as much as I want (you do it all the time yourself).

I'm right and you know it.

Of course you can armchair quarterback...nobody is stopping you. But I'm not sure what exactly you think you are/were right about. Clearly you and many others got the whole outcome of the election wrong. Resist the coping mechanisms.

You're speculating that a knowledgeable and angry US general public came out in droves and pushed the establishment out by electing a 'man for the people'.

I'm saying you are wrong. Not entirely, but wrong nonetheless. I'm saying that the result of the election is more precisely based on simple things: a campaign appealing to racists... a campaign appealing to dreams without any substance... and a campaign based on smear and fear tactics.

In other words, Trump recognized half the population were simple in nature and won their vote as horrific as it was for anyone remotely intelligent to stomach. At this point, I'd have to tip my hat to him for that. Gutsy to actually think you could placate the befuddled herd and pull something like this off.

Scary that this might serve as the model for future elections everywhere. Democracies have problems.

I've never promoted the "man of the people" theory. Your analysis top to bottom is just wrong and if it is shared by the democratic party then electoral defeats will continue for years to come.

PJfanwillneverleave1

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.

BS. If you thought this was an attack on you it wasnt. more of a generalize into how I believe Trumpism has come about.

Oh I understood. You have previous argued against the idea of elitism but you are downplaying people's "deeply needy need". You admit you were asleep and didn't think Trump could win but you have learnt zero lessons. If you want to beat Trump in 2020 then try understand people's needs, develop a platform and win an election. Right now you are committed to impeachment and that plan will not only go nowhere but will be completely self-defeating. Your approach is infantile. You're still asleep.

I think you're giving too much credit to Trump voters.

While on one hand many voters did so to thumb their noses at the establishment... many, if not most, voted for the idiot for very poor reasons.

It is not for anyone to give or not give 60 million people too much credit. It is not for anyone to say that most of 60 million people voted for very poor reasons. When one's brain cannot process the fact that 60 million people voted in what is deemed an unacceptable way it is far easier to denigrate then to look inward. It is a natural human coping mechanism. But it is a mechanism one must resist if they truly want to win an election again. If you really believe people voted for poor reasons then it is encumbent upon you or someone to offer these people a better reason. As of now none is being offered. These people who we "should not give too much credit" are being treated with scorn.

I can armchair quarterback as much as I want (you do it all the time yourself).

I'm right and you know it.

Of course you can armchair quarterback...nobody is stopping you. But I'm not sure what exactly you think you are/were right about. Clearly you and many others got the whole outcome of the election wrong. Resist the coping mechanisms.

You're speculating that a knowledgeable and angry US general public came out in droves and pushed the establishment out by electing a 'man for the people'.

I'm saying you are wrong. Not entirely, but wrong nonetheless. I'm saying that the result of the election is more precisely based on simple things: a campaign appealing to racists... a campaign appealing to dreams without any substance... and a campaign based on smear and fear tactics.

In other words, Trump recognized half the population were simple in nature and won their vote as horrific as it was for anyone remotely intelligent to stomach. At this point, I'd have to tip my hat to him for that. Gutsy to actually think you could placate the befuddled herd and pull something like this off.

Scary that this might serve as the model for future elections everywhere. Democracies have problems.

I've never promoted the "man of the people" theory. Your analysis top to bottom is just wrong and if it is shared by the democratic party then electoral defeats will continue for years to come.

I don't know TB, I read your post 2or3 times to try and pull out some sense and a point.
I couldn't.
I believe the only befuddled people are the ones left wondering how they woke up with President-elect Trump.

HughFreakingDillon

befuddled. lol

The Juggler

vaggar99 said:

in case you missed these. We at least have some of the best comedy of all time right now:
SNL:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JUWSLlz0Fdo
Trevor Noah
https://youtu.be/obRAYBt70SE
https://youtu.be/f0KLJoh5-Os
https://youtu.be/5tKOV0KqPlg

more to come

Funny stuff. The president elect is not pleased...that's when you know it's good.

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
Is there another link to these videos?
The user has not made them available to view in my country it says.

vaggar99

^^^try going on youtube and search....not sure if you'll have luck there though

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

^^don't worry about it. There are people for whom nothing is serious but themselves and their deeply needy needs. Its a very troubling reality when you think about it. These people have kids and these kids grow up to vote and here we are now.

Yes. Very troubling that people vote on "their deeply needy needs". Very troubling. Unless you think about it.

BS. If you thought this was an attack on you it wasnt. more of a generalize into how I believe Trumpism has come about.

Oh I understood. You have previous argued against the idea of elitism but you are downplaying people's "deeply needy need". You admit you were asleep and didn't think Trump could win but you have learnt zero lessons. If you want to beat Trump in 2020 then try understand people's needs, develop a platform and win an election. Right now you are committed to impeachment and that plan will not only go nowhere but will be completely self-defeating. Your approach is infantile. You're still asleep.

I think you're giving too much credit to Trump voters.

While on one hand many voters did so to thumb their noses at the establishment... many, if not most, voted for the idiot for very poor reasons.

It is not for anyone to give or not give 60 million people too much credit. It is not for anyone to say that most of 60 million people voted for very poor reasons. When one's brain cannot process the fact that 60 million people voted in what is deemed an unacceptable way it is far easier to denigrate then to look inward. It is a natural human coping mechanism. But it is a mechanism one must resist if they truly want to win an election again. If you really believe people voted for poor reasons then it is encumbent upon you or someone to offer these people a better reason. As of now none is being offered. These people who we "should not give too much credit" are being treated with scorn.

I can armchair quarterback as much as I want (you do it all the time yourself).

I'm right and you know it.

Of course you can armchair quarterback...nobody is stopping you. But I'm not sure what exactly you think you are/were right about. Clearly you and many others got the whole outcome of the election wrong. Resist the coping mechanisms.

You're speculating that a knowledgeable and angry US general public came out in droves and pushed the establishment out by electing a 'man for the people'.

I'm saying you are wrong. Not entirely, but wrong nonetheless. I'm saying that the result of the election is more precisely based on simple things: a campaign appealing to racists... a campaign appealing to dreams without any substance... and a campaign based on smear and fear tactics.

In other words, Trump recognized half the population were simple in nature and won their vote as horrific as it was for anyone remotely intelligent to stomach. At this point, I'd have to tip my hat to him for that. Gutsy to actually think you could placate the befuddled herd and pull something like this off.

Scary that this might serve as the model for future elections everywhere. Democracies have problems.

I've never promoted the "man of the people" theory. Your analysis top to bottom is just wrong and if it is shared by the democratic party then electoral defeats will continue for years to come.

I don't know TB, I read your post 2or3 times to try and pull out some sense and a point.
I couldn't.
I believe the only befuddled people are the ones left wondering how they woke up with President-elect Trump.

You're one of the befuddled herd. You wouldn't be able to understand it.

Don't try to over analyze anything Fan. Stick with pestering people in a childlike manner. That is what you do best.

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
You said Gutsy to actually think you could placate the befuddled herd and pull something like this off.

If the liberals/dems were a bit more gutsy they could've won.
Instead they just wandered around like a lost herd expecting another leader.
I am not befuddled sir,
No way.