Your vote should be selfish? Yikes. I think that attitude is exactly what is wrong with the world today. Looking out for the common good is looking out for yourself too IMO, and especially for your kids' futures.
Actually the beauty is you can vote however you like based on any criteria you want.
The bad part is the same exact thing!!!
Sure, but my comment doesn't really have anything to do with the freedom to vote for whomever you want. I'm just talking about attitudes, and how a selfish attitude is bad for the world.
If 100 people vote on one issue.. 51 vote one way 49 the other.... The 51 get their way. The 49 don't. Unfortunatly and fortunately that's how it is.... Its selfish but its democracy...
Sure, but that also has nothing to do with what I'm saying (btw, this democracy you're talking about isn't even happening in the USA anyhow).
Its not? How so?
I am talking about attitudes, not voting or democracy. I'm basically saying that I think the "look out for #1" attitude that is prevalent these days is bad for the world. Sure, some people vote a certain way because they have that attitude, which sucks, but I'm talking about the mindset behind it.
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I still feel there is an element of racism even with our illegals. Nobody says deport the thousands of illegal Irish who come to the US every year.
That's true. There are TONS of white illegals in the US and no one seems to mind.
The same people do mind. It is your assumption that this is only about Latin American illegals is what is so off base.
Oh yeah? What makes you say that? Where is the evidence that that is really true? I've never really seen any. You aren't seriously trying to suggest that the same sentiments are being applied towards white illegals and Mexican or Muslim illegals, are you?? If you are, you're in la la land, or just making shit up.
Yes I am seriously trying to suggest that. It is the open borders crowd that wants to make this about race in order to avoid a discussion on illegal immigration altogether. That game is over. Yelling racism has lost the power it once had.
No it hasn't the way Trump presented himself onto the main stage was by saying racist crap or did you already forget it or it really doesn't matter anymore to you !
BS doesn't see racism, apparently it doesn't exist. Trump assumes some Mexicans are good people so he clearly isn't a racist...
This just shows how completely disingenious you are in these discussions.
Hsha ha ha now he's referring to Hillary as " a low life " and Elizabeth warren as Pocahontas damn there is nothing he won't say everything is on the table , what a lunatic ...
Hsha ha ha now he's referring to Hillary as " a low life " and Elizabeth warren as Pocahontas damn there is nothing he won't say everything is on the table , what a lunatic ...
At least he put effort in his insults before. He's just being lazy now. Carrot Top could do better than him ffs.
I still feel there is an element of racism even with our illegals. Nobody says deport the thousands of illegal Irish who come to the US every year.
That's true. There are TONS of white illegals in the US and no one seems to mind.
The same people do mind. It is your assumption that this is only about Latin American illegals is what is so off base.
Oh yeah? What makes you say that? Where is the evidence that that is really true? I've never really seen any. You aren't seriously trying to suggest that the same sentiments are being applied towards white illegals and Mexican or Muslim illegals, are you?? If you are, you're in la la land, or just making shit up.
Yes I am seriously trying to suggest that. It is the open borders crowd that wants to make this about race in order to avoid a discussion on illegal immigration altogether. That game is over. Yelling racism has lost the power it once had.
No it hasn't the way Trump presented himself onto the main stage was by saying racist crap or did you already forget it or it really doesn't matter anymore to you !
BS doesn't see racism, apparently it doesn't exist. Trump assumes some Mexicans are good people so he clearly isn't a racist...
This just shows how completely disingenious you are in these discussions.
Disingenuous? The evidence has been presented over and over, and you have literally outright refused to acknowledge it. I'm talking about Trump, not life in general. If I said, "I assume BS must have some good qualities", you wouldn't be offended by the implicit insult?
I agree he will be POTUS this country and all his followers will fallow him all the way down the toilet along with this country ..President Trump ha ha ha ha
I wonder if there is a "grassy knoll" contingency plan in the GOP handbook?
I wonder as well...it's a really interesting situation. The people are obviously there to support him for the most part. Gary Johnson is currently polling pretty high so that will likely take some of Trump's support away.
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I wonder if there is a "grassy knoll" contingency plan in the GOP handbook?
I wonder as well...it's a really interesting situation. The people are obviously there to support him for the most part. Gary Johnson is currently polling pretty high so that will likely take some of Trump's support away.
Johnson has my vote. He got it in 2012 as well
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I like Johnson and I'm a Hillary supporter. I'm not sure if the Libertarian crowd is naturally a Trump supporter. I think it may depend on if your libertarian leanings are social or economic.
you guy's really didn't see this coming ? my support for Trump is really simple, who the heck else is there to vote for ? the way I see it Hell'ary is a dirty politician and Burney is no different than Obama (softer than a sneaker full of shit) and Trump....he's just bat shit crazy and is willing to stand up to all enemies domestic and foreign and I'm not sure how that will work out ??? but I do agree with many of his idea's for our country, I don't know where he stands with unions and everybody has their 2 cents on that but really I haven't seen or heard anything from HIM on unions. the other two clowns Rubio and Cruz...my gut tells me they are bad news. so now it will surly come down to Trump or Clinton and she is the ultimate professional politician and that worries me but not as much as the dufus bro's Rubio and Cruz but with Clinton's dirty laundry thrown all over the media I don't think she has a chance. I'm hoping for the best if Trump win's the election but believe me I have concerns as well.
I wonder if there is a "grassy knoll" contingency plan in the GOP handbook?
I wonder as well...it's a really interesting situation. The people are obviously there to support him for the most part. Gary Johnson is currently polling pretty high so that will likely take some of Trump's support away.
Johnson has my vote. He got it in 2012 as well
He had my vote in 2012 as well and will have my vote again this time around.
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you guy's really didn't see this coming ? my support for Trump is really simple, who the heck else is there to vote for ? the way I see it Hell'ary is a dirty politician and Burney is no different than Obama (softer than a sneaker full of shit) and Trump....he's just bat shit crazy and is willing to stand up to all enemies domestic and foreign and I'm not sure how that will work out ??? but I do agree with many of his idea's for our country, I don't know where he stands with unions and everybody has their 2 cents on that but really I haven't seen or heard anything from HIM on unions. the other two clowns Rubio and Cruz...my gut tells me they are bad news. so now it will surly come down to Trump or Clinton and she is the ultimate professional politician and that worries me but not as much as the dufus bro's Rubio and Cruz but with Clinton's dirty laundry thrown all over the media I don't think she has a chance. I'm hoping for the best if Trump win's the election but believe me I have concerns as well.
Godfather.
See what that this country would stand behind a baffoon who could care less about diplomacy or what comes out of his mouth , yeah I never saw this coming I thought the collective mentality of this country would not put up with such vitriol venom coming from the nominee of the Republican Party ...but apparently you and his fallowers are ok with him as your president !!
Did somebody say "Gary Johnson"?? That's a politician that I would support. I'm surprised that democrats and hard right republicans would go a libertarian route though. Johnson is a loud voice for the very least governmental intervention possible. He is a very close comparative to Ron Paul.
you guy's really didn't see this coming ? my support for Trump is really simple, who the heck else is there to vote for ? the way I see it Hell'ary is a dirty politician and Burney is no different than Obama (softer than a sneaker full of shit) and Trump....he's just bat shit crazy and is willing to stand up to all enemies domestic and foreign and I'm not sure how that will work out ??? but I do agree with many of his idea's for our country, I don't know where he stands with unions and everybody has their 2 cents on that but really I haven't seen or heard anything from HIM on unions. the other two clowns Rubio and Cruz...my gut tells me they are bad news. so now it will surly come down to Trump or Clinton and she is the ultimate professional politician and that worries me but not as much as the dufus bro's Rubio and Cruz but with Clinton's dirty laundry thrown all over the media I don't think she has a chance. I'm hoping for the best if Trump win's the election but believe me I have concerns as well.
Godfather.
See what that this country would stand behind a baffoon who could care less about diplomacy or what comes out of his mouth , yeah I never saw this coming I thought the collective mentality of this country would not put up with such vitriol venom coming from the nominee of the Republican Party ...but apparently you and his fallowers are ok with him as your president !!
are you just angry because of his stance on illegal immigration ? no I'm not being a wise guy. that is one the thing's that seems to be your biggest complaint, the train has already hashed and re-hashed the topic of illegal immigration but now that somebody running for president says he want's to stop it and speaks up about it some folks are going crazy over it because it my become a reality and in my opinion he is the better choice of what we have.
you guy's really didn't see this coming ? my support for Trump is really simple, who the heck else is there to vote for ? the way I see it Hell'ary is a dirty politician and Burney is no different than Obama (softer than a sneaker full of shit) and Trump....he's just bat shit crazy and is willing to stand up to all enemies domestic and foreign and I'm not sure how that will work out ??? but I do agree with many of his idea's for our country, I don't know where he stands with unions and everybody has their 2 cents on that but really I haven't seen or heard anything from HIM on unions. the other two clowns Rubio and Cruz...my gut tells me they are bad news. so now it will surly come down to Trump or Clinton and she is the ultimate professional politician and that worries me but not as much as the dufus bro's Rubio and Cruz but with Clinton's dirty laundry thrown all over the media I don't think she has a chance. I'm hoping for the best if Trump win's the election but believe me I have concerns as well.
Godfather.
See what that this country would stand behind a baffoon who could care less about diplomacy or what comes out of his mouth , yeah I never saw this coming I thought the collective mentality of this country would not put up with such vitriol venom coming from the nominee of the Republican Party ...but apparently you and his fallowers are ok with him as your president !!
are you just angry because of his stance on illegal immigration ? no I'm not being a wise guy. that is one the thing's that seems to be your biggest complaint, the train has already hashed and re-hashed the topic of illegal immigration but now that somebody running for president says he want's to stop it and speaks up about it some folks are going crazy over it because it my become a reality and in my opinion he is the better choice of what we have.
Godfather.
No I'm not mad at all but there is no way you can say that his better than what we have you are dead wrong on it imo !!
One thing I gotta give Trump is he's opened the door for non-politicians to have success in presidential elections. Ross Perot had a modicum of success running as a third-party candidate. But for Trump to flat-out win the Republican nomination fair and square? That changes everything going forward. It'll be interesting four years from now when Martin O'Malley and Snoop Dogg are battling it out for the Democratic nod lol
One thing I gotta give Trump is he's opened the door for non-politicians to have success in presidential elections. Ross Perot had a modicum of success running as a third-party candidate. But for Trump to flat-out win the Republican nomination fair and square? That changes everything going forward. It'll be interesting four years from now when Martin O'Malley and Snoop Dogg are battling it out for the Democratic nod lol
He's pro pot so he's got my vote. Speaking of him and Trump.
Did somebody say "Gary Johnson"?? That's a politician that I would support. I'm surprised that democrats and hard right republicans would go a libertarian route though. Johnson is a loud voice for the very least governmental intervention possible. He is a very close comparative to Ron Paul.
The libertarians are on the right side of abortion rights and LBGT rights so that alone will sway some Dems.
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you guy's really didn't see this coming ? my support for Trump is really simple, who the heck else is there to vote for ? the way I see it Hell'ary is a dirty politician and Burney is no different than Obama (softer than a sneaker full of shit) and Trump....he's just bat shit crazy and is willing to stand up to all enemies domestic and foreign and I'm not sure how that will work out ??? but I do agree with many of his idea's for our country, I don't know where he stands with unions and everybody has their 2 cents on that but really I haven't seen or heard anything from HIM on unions. the other two clowns Rubio and Cruz...my gut tells me they are bad news. so now it will surly come down to Trump or Clinton and she is the ultimate professional politician and that worries me but not as much as the dufus bro's Rubio and Cruz but with Clinton's dirty laundry thrown all over the media I don't think she has a chance. I'm hoping for the best if Trump win's the election but believe me I have concerns as well.
Godfather.
See what that this country would stand behind a baffoon who could care less about diplomacy or what comes out of his mouth , yeah I never saw this coming I thought the collective mentality of this country would not put up with such vitriol venom coming from the nominee of the Republican Party ...but apparently you and his fallowers are ok with him as your president !!
are you just angry because of his stance on illegal immigration ? no I'm not being a wise guy. that is one the thing's that seems to be your biggest complaint, the train has already hashed and re-hashed the topic of illegal immigration but now that somebody running for president says he want's to stop it and speaks up about it some folks are going crazy over it because it my become a reality and in my opinion he is the better choice of what we have.
Godfather.
there's nothing wrong with trying to curb illegal immigration (unless you care about the economy). but the way he's gone about talking about it has taken race relations in the US back 75 years.
you guy's really didn't see this coming ? my support for Trump is really simple, who the heck else is there to vote for ? the way I see it Hell'ary is a dirty politician and Burney is no different than Obama (softer than a sneaker full of shit) and Trump....he's just bat shit crazy and is willing to stand up to all enemies domestic and foreign and I'm not sure how that will work out ??? but I do agree with many of his idea's for our country, I don't know where he stands with unions and everybody has their 2 cents on that but really I haven't seen or heard anything from HIM on unions. the other two clowns Rubio and Cruz...my gut tells me they are bad news. so now it will surly come down to Trump or Clinton and she is the ultimate professional politician and that worries me but not as much as the dufus bro's Rubio and Cruz but with Clinton's dirty laundry thrown all over the media I don't think she has a chance. I'm hoping for the best if Trump win's the election but believe me I have concerns as well.
Godfather.
See what that this country would stand behind a baffoon who could care less about diplomacy or what comes out of his mouth , yeah I never saw this coming I thought the collective mentality of this country would not put up with such vitriol venom coming from the nominee of the Republican Party ...but apparently you and his fallowers are ok with him as your president !!
are you just angry because of his stance on illegal immigration ? no I'm not being a wise guy. that is one the thing's that seems to be your biggest complaint, the train has already hashed and re-hashed the topic of illegal immigration but now that somebody running for president says he want's to stop it and speaks up about it some folks are going crazy over it because it my become a reality and in my opinion he is the better choice of what we have.
Godfather.
there's nothing wrong with trying to curb illegal immigration (unless you care about the economy). but the way he's gone about talking about it has taken race relations in the US back 75 years.
Deportation is impossible. If he wanted to get real and not pander to the least sophisticated person, he would talk about a pathway to citizenship.
Did somebody say "Gary Johnson"?? That's a politician that I would support. I'm surprised that democrats and hard right republicans would go a libertarian route though. Johnson is a loud voice for the very least governmental intervention possible. He is a very close comparative to Ron Paul.
The libertarians are on the right side of abortion rights and LBGT rights so that alone will sway some Dems.
A libertarian stance has been to leave laws at the local level. Abortion laws and laws such as LBGT would be decided on a state or local level.
you guy's really didn't see this coming ? my support for Trump is really simple, who the heck else is there to vote for ? the way I see it Hell'ary is a dirty politician and Burney is no different than Obama (softer than a sneaker full of shit) and Trump....he's just bat shit crazy and is willing to stand up to all enemies domestic and foreign and I'm not sure how that will work out ??? but I do agree with many of his idea's for our country, I don't know where he stands with unions and everybody has their 2 cents on that but really I haven't seen or heard anything from HIM on unions. the other two clowns Rubio and Cruz...my gut tells me they are bad news. so now it will surly come down to Trump or Clinton and she is the ultimate professional politician and that worries me but not as much as the dufus bro's Rubio and Cruz but with Clinton's dirty laundry thrown all over the media I don't think she has a chance. I'm hoping for the best if Trump win's the election but believe me I have concerns as well.
Godfather.
See what that this country would stand behind a baffoon who could care less about diplomacy or what comes out of his mouth , yeah I never saw this coming I thought the collective mentality of this country would not put up with such vitriol venom coming from the nominee of the Republican Party ...but apparently you and his fallowers are ok with him as your president !!
are you just angry because of his stance on illegal immigration ? no I'm not being a wise guy. that is one the thing's that seems to be your biggest complaint, the train has already hashed and re-hashed the topic of illegal immigration but now that somebody running for president says he want's to stop it and speaks up about it some folks are going crazy over it because it my become a reality and in my opinion he is the better choice of what we have.
Godfather.
there's nothing wrong with trying to curb illegal immigration (unless you care about the economy). but the way he's gone about talking about it has taken race relations in the US back 75 years.
Deportation is impossible. If he wanted to get real and not pander to the least sophisticated person, he would talk about a pathway to citizenship.
That's the one thing I've wondered about Trump. He has never spoken about the problems with attaining citizenship in this country.
Did somebody say "Gary Johnson"?? That's a politician that I would support. I'm surprised that democrats and hard right republicans would go a libertarian route though. Johnson is a loud voice for the very least governmental intervention possible. He is a very close comparative to Ron Paul.
The libertarians are on the right side of abortion rights and LBGT rights so that alone will sway some Dems.
A libertarian stance has been to leave laws at the local level. Abortion laws and laws such as LBGT would be decided on a state or local level.
I have to say that I disagree with this statement. You are advocating small government and weak federal system. Libertarians believe all government intervention in the markets and people's lives are the issue. The doctrine if Free Will should not be encumbered by local interventionists either.
As a socialist, I would personally not even vote before voting libertarian. I do appreciate some of their viewpoints and at least understand where they're coming from with the viewpoints I don't appreciate, but obviously I strongly support provincial and/or federal government regulation and intervention when it comes to banks, healthcare, certain social programs, and several other things. I think libertarianism would be a complete disaster overall.
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Hilarious...this morning Trump was reporting that Ryan was going to endorse
He runs his campaign like his bankrupt casinos
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Disingenuous?
The evidence has been presented over and over, and you have literally outright refused to acknowledge it. I'm talking about Trump, not life in general.
If I said, "I assume BS must have some good qualities", you wouldn't be offended by the implicit insult?
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my support for Trump is really simple, who the heck else is there to vote for ? the way I see it Hell'ary is a dirty politician and Burney is no different than Obama (softer than a sneaker full of shit) and Trump....he's just bat shit crazy and is willing to stand up to all enemies domestic and foreign and I'm not sure how that will work out ??? but I do agree with many of his idea's for our country, I don't know where he stands with unions and everybody has their 2 cents on that but really I haven't seen or heard anything from HIM on unions.
the other two clowns Rubio and Cruz...my gut tells me they are bad news. so now it will surly come down to Trump or Clinton and she is the ultimate professional politician and that worries me but not as much as the dufus bro's Rubio and Cruz but with Clinton's dirty laundry thrown all over the media I don't think she has a chance.
I'm hoping for the best if Trump win's the election but believe me I have concerns as well.
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That's a politician that I would support. I'm surprised that democrats and hard right republicans would go a libertarian route though. Johnson is a loud voice for the very least governmental intervention possible. He is a very close comparative to Ron Paul.
that is one the thing's that seems to be your biggest complaint, the train has already hashed and re-hashed the topic of illegal immigration but now that somebody running for president says he want's to stop it and speaks up about it some folks are going crazy over it because it my become a reality and in my opinion he is the better choice of what we have.
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2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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