Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence on the liberal side!
more stupid insults.
Sorry, wasn't pointing to liberals as a whole. Edited my comment. It is my observation, however, that those that feel the need to brag about their intelligence are often those that have the least. It is a typical narcissistic personality trait that correlates with low self-esteem and high need for validation from others. Saw this many times while providing counseling throughout the years. But don't take my word for it, it is just a personal observation.
I don't know. I am fiscally conservative but socially liberal. I vote (in Canada, however) almost always left. i have voted right and Green in the past, but mostly left.
then when the left has destroyed the economy I vote right. which is what I did this time (provincially).
ha...had a discussion last night on FB with some people in which one of my friends who voted T. said the same thing, fiscally conservative but socially liberal. I asked for explanation and he said likes cardio and weights... anyway, don't we all want to be fiscally conservative? What does it mean exactly? Lower taxes? Lower spending?
oh and ha...i read GoBeavers response...obviously us liberals are basically huddling into our bubble
Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence anomaly on the liberal side!
It seems like a valid observation to me. Libertarians only exist in fantasy land. I see most who say they're Libertarian vote republican, but not identifying as a republican gives them an out.
Most libertarians I know are independent minded folks that feel that they can better regulate themselves and their day to day lives by making their own decisions than being overly dependent on government. Although today's republicans are definitely not totally small government minded in every aspect, they are way closer than democrats. I believe that some government oversight is needed in certain areas, but am overall against big brother intrusiveness in as many ways as is possible. Fantasy land is believing that big brother is going to solve all of your problems and has your best interests at mind...because big brother is never corrupt. If a libertarian candidate had a chance in hell of winning, I would have voted for them, but instead I voted for the party with less of the big government pushers...
Most libertarians I've seen commenting, here and elsewhere, simply don't know what a huge chunk of the Libertarian platform stands for. They go for the "stay out of my personal affairs" thing wholeheartedly, but ignore or are completely ignorant to the fact that the party wants the free market to dictate certain things that NEED government regulation. So they like half the platform, but fail to acknowledge how incredibly dangerous the other half of it could be for them.
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I'm always curious what people really mean when they say their fiscally conservative. In the US, most people I hear who say that are voting republican, which fiscally means tax cuts and increased spending which leads to bigger deficit spending. Not really fiscally conservative to me. They seem to imply that liberals are somehow fiscally irresponsible.
in canada, democrats/liberals tend to hike taxes on everyone and spend AF, but no one seems to know where the money goes. most on the right complain it's because of too much government; too many perks for those in government, etc. the democrat I spoke of ran on the promise he would never increase the provincial sales tax, and what did the fucker do? he raised the provincial sales tax by 1%, and before he did that, he changed the goddamn law that allowed him to do so without a public referendum. he had 6 of his own cabinet ministers band together and try to overthrow him. they failed and were dismissed. it was ridiculous.
libs/dems tend to create committees out the ying yang, spend tonnes of money on meeting and travelling and consulting, while the conservatives get shit done. The problem is, I don't always like what that shit is.
my biased opinion is that in the US, the Dems are the only ones who get things done. The Republicans tend to just sit with their arms crossed like sad old ladies. Maybe T. will change that....i actually have a small hope for that believe it or not
I'm always curious what people really mean when they say their fiscally conservative. In the US, most people I hear who say that are voting republican, which fiscally means tax cuts and increased spending which leads to bigger deficit spending. Not really fiscally conservative to me. They seem to imply that liberals are somehow fiscally irresponsible.
in canada, democrats/liberals tend to hike taxes on everyone and spend AF, but no one seems to know where the money goes. most on the right complain it's because of too much government; too many perks for those in government, etc. the democrat I spoke of ran on the promise he would never increase the provincial sales tax, and what did the fucker do? he raised the provincial sales tax by 1%, and before he did that, he changed the goddamn law that allowed him to do so without a public referendum. he had 6 of his own cabinet ministers band together and try to overthrow him. they failed and were dismissed. it was ridiculous.
libs/dems tend to create committees out the ying yang, spend tonnes of money on meeting and travelling and consulting, while the conservatives get shit done. The problem is, I don't always like what that shit is.
A lot of generalizations about Canadian politics in this quote. You may want to clarify here and point out that this one particular government in one province in our country.
In reality, there is no systematic relation, for any of the three governments, between the left-wing or right-wing ideologies of the parties in power and the evolution of public spending as a share of GDP. In all three cases, it is actually left-wing governments that most reduced the relative size of government, and in one of the three cases (the United States), it is a right-wing government that most increased it.
In sum, we cannot presume that a party of the left that gets into power will necessarily increase the relative size of government or that a part of the right will certainly reduce it, nor can we assume that a current or past government has made decisions in accordance with these expectations. This observation allows us to draw two lessons regarding public policy debates.
Trump personally axed Flynn's son for spreading the dumbass Podesta email bullshit.
After that he personally closed the barn door while horses galloped on down the road.
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I'm always curious what people really mean when they say their fiscally conservative. In the US, most people I hear who say that are voting republican, which fiscally means tax cuts and increased spending which leads to bigger deficit spending. Not really fiscally conservative to me. They seem to imply that liberals are somehow fiscally irresponsible.
in canada, democrats/liberals tend to hike taxes on everyone and spend AF, but no one seems to know where the money goes. most on the right complain it's because of too much government; too many perks for those in government, etc. the democrat I spoke of ran on the promise he would never increase the provincial sales tax, and what did the fucker do? he raised the provincial sales tax by 1%, and before he did that, he changed the goddamn law that allowed him to do so without a public referendum. he had 6 of his own cabinet ministers band together and try to overthrow him. they failed and were dismissed. it was ridiculous.
libs/dems tend to create committees out the ying yang, spend tonnes of money on meeting and travelling and consulting, while the conservatives get shit done. The problem is, I don't always like what that shit is.
A lot of generalizations about Canadian politics in this quote. You may want to clarify here and point out that this one particular government in one province in our country.
In reality, there is no systematic relation, for any of the three governments, between the left-wing or right-wing ideologies of the parties in power and the evolution of public spending as a share of GDP. In all three cases, it is actually left-wing governments that most reduced the relative size of government, and in one of the three cases (the United States), it is a right-wing government that most increased it.
In sum, we cannot presume that a party of the left that gets into power will necessarily increase the relative size of government or that a part of the right will certainly reduce it, nor can we assume that a current or past government has made decisions in accordance with these expectations. This observation allows us to draw two lessons regarding public policy debates.
I was explicitly talking about the NDP party in Manitoba. I thought that was clear. if not, my bad.
I'm always curious what people really mean when they say their fiscally conservative. In the US, most people I hear who say that are voting republican, which fiscally means tax cuts and increased spending which leads to bigger deficit spending. Not really fiscally conservative to me. They seem to imply that liberals are somehow fiscally irresponsible.
in canada, democrats/liberals tend to hike taxes on everyone and spend AF, but no one seems to know where the money goes. most on the right complain it's because of too much government; too many perks for those in government, etc. the democrat I spoke of ran on the promise he would never increase the provincial sales tax, and what did the fucker do? he raised the provincial sales tax by 1%, and before he did that, he changed the goddamn law that allowed him to do so without a public referendum. he had 6 of his own cabinet ministers band together and try to overthrow him. they failed and were dismissed. it was ridiculous.
libs/dems tend to create committees out the ying yang, spend tonnes of money on meeting and travelling and consulting, while the conservatives get shit done. The problem is, I don't always like what that shit is.
A lot of generalizations about Canadian politics in this quote. You may want to clarify here and point out that this one particular government in one province in our country.
In reality, there is no systematic relation, for any of the three governments, between the left-wing or right-wing ideologies of the parties in power and the evolution of public spending as a share of GDP. In all three cases, it is actually left-wing governments that most reduced the relative size of government, and in one of the three cases (the United States), it is a right-wing government that most increased it.
In sum, we cannot presume that a party of the left that gets into power will necessarily increase the relative size of government or that a part of the right will certainly reduce it, nor can we assume that a current or past government has made decisions in accordance with these expectations. This observation allows us to draw two lessons regarding public policy debates.
I was explicitly talking about the NDP party in Manitoba. I thought that was clear. if not, my bad.
In case you missed the latest from President-elect Trump, If the press would cover me accurately & honorably, I would have far less reason to "tweet." Sadly, I don't know if that will ever happen! Masa (SoftBank) of Japan has agreed to invest $50 billion in the U.S. toward businesses and 50,000 new jobs.... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
In case you missed the latest from President-elect Trump, If the press would cover me accurately & honorably, I would have far less reason to "tweet." Sadly, I don't know if that will ever happen! Masa (SoftBank) of Japan has agreed to invest $50 billion in the U.S. toward businesses and 50,000 new jobs.... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
In November, a meeting between Trump, his daughter Ivanka and the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe raised controversy over potential conflicts of interest between a Trump presidency and his businesses.
Making Japan Great Again I see
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Care to point out the inaccuracies of the presses reporting on Trump? Just because he tweets it, doesn't make it true. But then again, maybe in TrumpWorld it does.
In case you missed the latest from President-elect Trump, If the press would cover me accurately & honorably, I would have far less reason to "tweet." Sadly, I don't know if that will ever happen! Masa (SoftBank) of Japan has agreed to invest $50 billion in the U.S. toward businesses and 50,000 new jobs.... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
So trump is taking credit for something SoftBank announced they were doing back in October?
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^^^ That deal was made once Japan new that Donald Trump would be the next POTUS. Disclosure.
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^^^ Dam, I knew it was knew I just forgot to edit after I posted. I was lazy.
edit- I know that it was knew.
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In case you missed the latest from President-elect Trump, If the press would cover me accurately & honorably, I would have far less reason to "tweet." Sadly, I don't know if that will ever happen! Masa (SoftBank) of Japan has agreed to invest $50 billion in the U.S. toward businesses and 50,000 new jobs.... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
So trump is taking credit for something SoftBank announced they were doing back in October?
In case you missed the latest from President-elect Trump, If the press would cover me accurately & honorably, I would have far less reason to "tweet." Sadly, I don't know if that will ever happen! Masa (SoftBank) of Japan has agreed to invest $50 billion in the U.S. toward businesses and 50,000 new jobs.... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
So trump is taking credit for something SoftBank announced they were doing back in October?
I love that my auto correct doesn't capitalize trump.
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ha...had a discussion last night on FB with some people in which one of my friends who voted T. said the same thing, fiscally conservative but socially liberal. I asked for explanation and he said likes cardio and weights...
anyway, don't we all want to be fiscally conservative? What does it mean exactly? Lower taxes? Lower spending?
oh and ha...i read GoBeavers response...obviously us liberals are basically huddling into our bubble
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Trump personally axed Flynn's son for spreading the dumbass Podesta email bullshit.
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In reality, there is no systematic relation, for any of the
three governments, between the left-wing or right-wing
ideologies of the parties in power and the evolution of public
spending as a share of GDP. In all three cases, it is actually
left-wing governments that most reduced the relative size of
government, and in one of the three cases (the United States),
it is a right-wing government that most increased it.
In sum, we cannot presume that a party of the left that
gets into power will necessarily increase the relative size of
government or that a part of the right will certainly reduce
it, nor can we assume that a current or past government has
made decisions in accordance with these expectations. This
observation allows us to draw two lessons regarding public
policy debates.
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If the press would cover me accurately & honorably, I would have far less reason to "tweet." Sadly, I don't know if that will ever happen!
Masa (SoftBank) of Japan has agreed to invest $50 billion in the U.S. toward businesses and 50,000 new jobs....
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/06/trump-rips-boeing-for-cost-overruns-on-new-air-force-one-says-cancel-order.htm.html
Making Japan Great Again I see
Care to point out the inaccuracies of the presses reporting on Trump? Just because he tweets it, doesn't make it true. But then again, maybe in TrumpWorld it does.
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http://www.softbank.jp/en/corp/news/press/sb/2016/20161014_01/
What a joke!
That deal was made once Japan new that Donald Trump would be the next POTUS.
Disclosure.
New
Gnu
Dam, I knew it was knew I just forgot to edit after I posted.
I was lazy.
edit- I know that it was knew.
http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/#/archive
Trump YES
I love that my auto correct doesn't capitalize trump.