Actually.....now that I think about, Trump's twitter feed and TMZ should be the obvious choice for where someone who voted for a billionaire reality show host for president gets his news.
TMZ always gets the scoop first on a lot of things that are relevant in the world to liberals or those people who don't consider themselves a republican. Take a look around at how many headlines are credited w/ "as TMZ reported". Many headlines appear days after TMZ reports. Like I said, liberals are slow to catch up on what is right there in front of them. Enter President-elect Trump.
He has a press conference schooled for Dec 15 to declare what he is going to do with his business, I read. This is probably just going to be some blabber supposed to reassure his base that he is not going to follow personal interests down the line just before the EC is going to convene. I call bullshit.
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Actually.....now that I think about, Trump's twitter feed and TMZ should be the obvious choice for where someone who voted for a billionaire reality show host for president gets his news.
TMZ always gets the scoop first on a lot of things that are relevant in the world to liberals or those people who don't consider themselves a republican. Take a look around at how many headlines are credited w/ "as TMZ reported". Many headlines appear days after TMZ reports. Like I said, liberals are slow to catch up on what is right there in front of them. Enter President-elect Trump.
Yes, slightly less if they are social conservatives.
On the available evidence, the presence of people subscribing to economic liberalism within the ostensibly conservative parties in the US, UK and Australia makes it very unlikely that a substantial correlation – either positive or negative – will be found between political conservatism and intelligence.
Members of the left-wing political parties in these countries are not immune from social conservatism either. So, our politicians have no right to call members of the other party “stupid”.
so, in other words, your constant claims of liberals being slow in the uptake is scientifically false.
Is there a relationship between political orientation and cognitive ability? A test of three hypotheses in two studies
Social conservatism is linked to lower IQ. Economic conservatism is linked to higher IQ. (Yay libertarians!)
This one found the same thing:
Verbal intelligence is correlated with socially and economically liberal beliefs
Both pro-choice type beliefs and anti-regulation type beliefs were correlated with higher IQ.
So overall liberals are smarter than conservatives but libertarians are smarter than them both. (This study hypothesized that the fact that libertarians are more likely to vote for Republicans might explain why Republicans are smarter than Democrats even as liberals are smarter than conservatives.)
Is there a relationship between political orientation and cognitive ability? A test of three hypotheses in two studies
Social conservatism is linked to lower IQ. Economic conservatism is linked to higher IQ. (Yay libertarians!)
This one found the same thing:
Verbal intelligence is correlated with socially and economically liberal beliefs
Both pro-choice type beliefs and anti-regulation type beliefs were correlated with higher IQ.
So overall liberals are smarter than conservatives but libertarians are smarter than them both. (This study hypothesized that the fact that libertarians are more likely to vote for Republicans might explain why Republicans are smarter than Democrats even as liberals are smarter than conservatives.)
Orange. The man is orange. And a sex offender. And a cheating con man.
Knowing nothing about the job, he ran for president because he thought he was pretty damn awesome and everyone in America loved him as much as he loves himself (I love the massive oil painting he has hung in his house of himself, alone in an athletic stance with his tennis whites).
Aaannnd... the people elect him.
Hahahahahahaha
To the point, Hugh... you were speaking of intelligence?
Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence on the liberal side!
more stupid insults.
Sorry, wasn't pointing to liberals as a whole. Edited my comment. It is my observation, however, that those that feel the need to brag about their intelligence are often those that have the least. It is a typical narcissistic personality trait that correlates with low self-esteem and high need for validation from others. Saw this many times while providing counseling throughout the years. But don't take my word for it, it is just a personal observation.
Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence on the liberal side!
more stupid insults.
Sorry, wasn't pointing to liberals as a whole. Edited my comment. It is my observation, however, that those that feel the need to brag about their intelligence are often those that have the least. It is a typical narcissistic personality trait that correlates with low self-esteem and high need for validation from others. Saw this many times while providing counseling throughout the years. But don't take my word for it, it is just a personal observation.
Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence anomaly on the liberal side!
It seems like a valid observation to me. Libertarians only exist in fantasy land. I see most who say they're Libertarian vote republican, but not identifying as a republican gives them an out.
I don't know. I am fiscally conservative but socially liberal. I vote (in Canada, however) almost always left. i have voted right and Green in the past, but mostly left.
then when the left has destroyed the economy I vote right. which is what I did this time (provincially).
I'm always curious what people really mean when they say their fiscally conservative. In the US, most people I hear who say that are voting republican, which fiscally means tax cuts and increased spending which leads to bigger deficit spending. Not really fiscally conservative to me. They seem to imply that liberals are somehow fiscally irresponsible.
Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence anomaly on the liberal side!
It seems like a valid observation to me. Libertarians only exist in fantasy land. I see most who say they're Libertarian vote republican, but not identifying as a republican gives them an out.
Maybe you need to get out more. I identify as a small 'l' libertarian. I voted 80% Democrat, 15% Republican and 5% Libertarian or other this past election. I know plenty of people like me. I also know several Libertarians who are as you describe. Your rush to neatly package people with whom you disagree betrays your ability to be even slightly objective.
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Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence anomaly on the liberal side!
I'm Green Party and even I agree. Warts and all, I agree with them on SOME things. I'll take 4 years of Johnson over a second of Trump. At least pot will be legal nationwide.
Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence anomaly on the liberal side!
It seems like a valid observation to me. Libertarians only exist in fantasy land. I see most who say they're Libertarian vote republican, but not identifying as a republican gives them an out.
Most libertarians I know are independent minded folks that feel that they can better regulate themselves and their day to day lives by making their own decisions than being overly dependent on government. Although today's republicans are definitely not totally small government minded in every aspect, they are way closer than democrats. I believe that some government oversight is needed in certain areas, but am overall against big brother intrusiveness in as many ways as is possible. Fantasy land is believing that big brother is going to solve all of your problems and has your best interests at mind...because big brother is never corrupt. If a libertarian candidate had a chance in hell of winning, I would have voted for them, but instead I voted for the party with less of the big government pushers...
Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence anomaly on the liberal side!
It seems like a valid observation to me. Libertarians only exist in fantasy land. I see most who say they're Libertarian vote republican, but not identifying as a republican gives them an out.
Most libertarians I know are independent minded folks that feel that they can better regulate themselves and their day to day lives by making their own decisions than being overly dependent on government. Although today's republicans are definitely not totally small government minded in every aspect, they are way closer than democrats. I believe that some government oversight is needed in certain areas, but am overall against big brother intrusiveness in as many ways as is possible. Fantasy land is believing that big brother is going to solve all of your problems and has your best interests at mind...because big brother is never corrupt.
But wanting government intervention isn't party bound. I see people in all three realms defer to government, depending on the issue. It's adhering to outdated labels and stereotypes that says one group wants more government than the other.
Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence anomaly on the liberal side!
It seems like a valid observation to me. Libertarians only exist in fantasy land. I see most who say they're Libertarian vote republican, but not identifying as a republican gives them an out.
Maybe you need to get out more. I identify as a small 'l' libertarian. I voted 80% Democrat, 15% Republican and 5% Libertarian or other this past election. I know plenty of people like me. I also know several Libertarians who are as you describe. Your rush to neatly package people with whom you disagree betrays your ability to be even slightly objective.
Based on your voting behavior, why not just call yourself s liberal? 80% vs 5%? Why identify with just the 5%?
Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence anomaly on the liberal side!
It seems like a valid observation to me. Libertarians only exist in fantasy land. I see most who say they're Libertarian vote republican, but not identifying as a republican gives them an out.
Maybe you need to get out more. I identify as a small 'l' libertarian. I voted 80% Democrat, 15% Republican and 5% Libertarian or other this past election. I know plenty of people like me. I also know several Libertarians who are as you describe. Your rush to neatly package people with whom you disagree betrays your ability to be even slightly objective.
Based on your voting behavior, why not just call yourself s liberal? 80% vs 5%? Why identify with just the 5%?
Because my options are a bit limited since we're a pretty solid 2 party country. I won't identify as a Democrat or a Republican because I think neither party has the ability to objectively look at issues. Everything is polarized and entrenched. If I had more 3rd party choices down ballot, I'd likely be making them.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
I'm always curious what people really mean when they say their fiscally conservative. In the US, most people I hear who say that are voting republican, which fiscally means tax cuts and increased spending which leads to bigger deficit spending. Not really fiscally conservative to me. They seem to imply that liberals are somehow fiscally irresponsible.
in canada, democrats/liberals tend to hike taxes on everyone and spend AF, but no one seems to know where the money goes. most on the right complain it's because of too much government; too many perks for those in government, etc. the democrat I spoke of ran on the promise he would never increase the provincial sales tax, and what did the fucker do? he raised the provincial sales tax by 1%, and before he did that, he changed the goddamn law that allowed him to do so without a public referendum. he had 6 of his own cabinet ministers band together and try to overthrow him. they failed and were dismissed. it was ridiculous.
libs/dems tend to create committees out the ying yang, spend tonnes of money on meeting and travelling and consulting, while the conservatives get shit done. The problem is, I don't always like what that shit is.
Good read here. I wish I were talented enough for people to pay me to write for a living.
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Isn't a libertarian just someone who votes Republican but never wants to admit it?
^^^A perfect example of the low intelligence on the liberal side!
more stupid insults.
Sorry, wasn't pointing to liberals as a whole. Edited my comment. It is my observation, however, that those that feel the need to brag about their intelligence are often those that have the least. It is a typical narcissistic personality trait that correlates with low self-esteem and high need for validation from others. Saw this many times while providing counseling throughout the years. But don't take my word for it, it is just a personal observation.
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Take a look around at how many headlines are credited w/ "as TMZ reported".
Many headlines appear days after TMZ reports.
Like I said, liberals are slow to catch up on what is right there in front of them.
Enter President-elect Trump.
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So, are conservatives less smart?
Yes, slightly less if they are social conservatives.
On the available evidence, the presence of people subscribing to economic liberalism within the ostensibly conservative parties in the US, UK and Australia makes it very unlikely that a substantial correlation – either positive or negative – will be found between political conservatism and intelligence.
Members of the left-wing political parties in these countries are not immune from social conservatism either. So, our politicians have no right to call members of the other party “stupid”.
so, in other words, your constant claims of liberals being slow in the uptake is scientifically false.
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https://www.quora.com/Are-conservatives-smarter-than-liberals
Is there a relationship between political orientation and cognitive ability? A test of three hypotheses in two studies
Social conservatism is linked to lower IQ. Economic conservatism is linked to higher IQ. (Yay libertarians!)
This one found the same thing:
Verbal intelligence is correlated with socially and economically liberal beliefs
Both pro-choice type beliefs and anti-regulation type beliefs were correlated with higher IQ.
So overall liberals are smarter than conservatives but libertarians are smarter than them both. (This study hypothesized that the fact that libertarians are more likely to vote for Republicans might explain why Republicans are smarter than Democrats even as liberals are smarter than conservatives.)
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Knowing nothing about the job, he ran for president because he thought he was pretty damn awesome and everyone in America loved him as much as he loves himself (I love the massive oil painting he has hung in his house of himself, alone in an athletic stance with his tennis whites).
Aaannnd... the people elect him.
Hahahahahahaha
To the point, Hugh... you were speaking of intelligence?
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then when the left has destroyed the economy I vote right. which is what I did this time (provincially).
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I know. Civics is hard for you Breitbart U educated republicans but do grow a brain cell please.
It's the neoliberals who lack intelligence.
libs/dems tend to create committees out the ying yang, spend tonnes of money on meeting and travelling and consulting, while the conservatives get shit done. The problem is, I don't always like what that shit is.
www.headstonesband.com
NOW IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT
Now is the time to counter lies with facts, repeatedly and unflaggingly, while also proclaiming the greater truths: of our equal humanity, of decency, of compassion. Every precious ideal must be reiterated, every obvious argument made, because an ugly idea left unchallenged begins to turn the color of normal. It does not have to be like this.
Jesus Christ already? Drain the swamp and scoop up the shit at the bottom.
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