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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    JC29856 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    when is this guy gonna hold a legitimate press conference? he's such a puss, can't handle questions from the American public

    What are some of the questions the American public would ask?
    Where are your tax returns?
    is a good place to start
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    ^^^
    For starters,
    How come you're my President?
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    JC29856 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    when is this guy gonna hold a legitimate press conference? he's such a puss, can't handle questions from the American public

    What are some of the questions the American public would ask?
    can we smell your hands?
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,312
    vaggar99 said:

    when is this guy gonna hold a legitimate press conference? he's such a puss, can't handle questions from the American public

    Been since July. Meanwhile back then he relentlessly criticized HRC for going months without a presser.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Trump says the US needs to stop getting involved in foreign wars / foreign intervention
    Preposterous!!! Compete madness!!!
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    President-elect Trump relentlessly criticized that person named Hillary because she thought her work was done and would just walk right into the office come election night.
    Meanwhile your next POTUS still controls the media and gets his message through.
    It truly is astounding.
    That person named Hillary is completely forgotten and is but a dustball.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    JC29856 said:

    Trump says the US needs to stop getting involved in foreign wars / foreign intervention
    Preposterous!!! Compete madness!!!

    Sounds like a policy that Russia would love for us to have.
    In spite of populist belief, we live in a globalised world. And there's no putting that cat back on the bag.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    CM189191 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Trump says the US needs to stop getting involved in foreign wars / foreign intervention
    Preposterous!!! Compete madness!!!

    Sounds like a policy that Russia would love for us to have.
    In spite of populist belief, we live in a globalised world. And there's no putting that cat back on the bag.
    Russia Russia Russia!
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    ^^^
    It's like the bible.
    Funny but not to others.
    he is jebus
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,663
    JC29856 said:

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    It confirms what we all already knew.. there's no such thing as a set of principles, not just by politicians, but by the public as well. You would expect those results to be completed inverted between Dems and Republicans had Obama done the same.

    At the end of the day, the long term effect of this 'tax break' on the Carrier deal is that it will speed up the overall automation and robotics replacement. In other words, in 5 years, rather than the job having moved to Mexico, it will just be gone period. There is no saving low skill manufacturing jobs..there's only delaying the inevitable.
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    ^^^
    The inevitable?

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,663

    ^^^
    The inevitable?

    These specific low skill manufacturing jobs will be gone....

    Now Main Street's whitewashed windows and vacant stores
    Seems like there ain't nobody wants to come down here no more
    They're closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracks
    Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they ain't coming back
    To your hometown
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    ^^^
    I hear the boss not you.
    Will more be lost with your new POTUS?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,663

    ^^^
    I hear the boss not you.
    Will more be lost with your new POTUS?

    Well good, you were supposed to hear him and you've never heard me at all.

    Well that really depends on his policies and how long the effects take to materialize. If he plays political expediency and thinks that he is doing favors by giving tax breaks to keep low skill jobs here, then that's a mistake. If he does that while simultaneously investing in STEM and working to reshape the cost curve of a college tuition, then that would be good. So who knows. His current tactic of just short term deal making is not the solution.
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    ^^^
    His current term of short term deal making has been proven and true.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793

    ^^^
    I hear the boss not you.
    Will more be lost with your new POTUS?

    Lost. Low skill manufacturing jobs left and will continue to leave.
    Maybe trump university will train people for the jobs of the future.
    Seriously though, this asshole failed at selling steaks and liquor to Americans.
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    ^^^
    Did he?
    All the world knows of Trump steaks and liquor.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,663

    ^^^
    His current term of short term deal making has been proven and true.

    Has been proven to what? Exist? Proven to create long term, sustainable jobs in a thriving industry? Or was it proven that Carrier receives 10% of its overall revenue from government contracts and the CEO said he wasn't "born yesterday" and knew that would be in jeopardy?

    Greg Hayes, CEO of United Technologies, told CNBC yesterday: 'I was born at night, but it wasn't last night. I also know that about 10 per cent of our revenue comes from the US government.'
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    ^^^
    Or the saying "Don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,663

    ^^^
    Or the saying "Don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining"

    Okay, we're having another one of those nonsensical conversations.
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    ^^^
    No.
    I was referring to Greg Hayes, CEO of United Technologies, told CNBC yesterday: 'I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,663

    ^^^
    No.
    I was referring to Greg Hayes, CEO of United Technologies, told CNBC yesterday: 'I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.

    So do you think short term tax breaks to keep companies here is the long term answer to creating an economy for the future?
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    ^^^
    Baby steps.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793

    ^^^
    Baby steps.

    “I’m not talking about Trump. I’m not talking about Trump. I’m not talking about Trump. I’m not talking about Trump.”

    — Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,663

    ^^^
    Baby steps.

    Which, again, will accelerate the overall elimination of those jobs completely. I'm not sure how those are 'baby steps'.
    Here's a smoking gun for you, this was a different interview:

    GREG HAYES: Right. Well, and again, if you think about what we talked about last week, we're going to make a $16 million investment in that factory in Indianapolis to automate to drive the cost down so that we can continue to be competitive. Now is it as cheap as moving to Mexico with lower cost of labor? No. But we will make that plant competitive just because we'll make the capital investments there.

    JIM CRAMER: Right.

    GREG HAYES: But what that ultimately means is there will be fewer jobs.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,648
    vaggar99 said:

    JC29856 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    when is this guy gonna hold a legitimate press conference? he's such a puss, can't handle questions from the American public

    What are some of the questions the American public would ask?
    can we smell your hands?
    Can you give us an estimation of how many people you've sexually assaulted?
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
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