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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,742
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Jason P said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Jason P said:

    Van Jones should discuss lower black voter turnout in key districts that helped flip Penn and Wisconsin and Michigan before going on a blame whitey rant

    He should blame blacks for the high turnout of closeted white bigots?
    Huh? The KKK didn't just move from Alabama to safe blue states over the last four years.

    Are you implying that white bigots were waiting for a black man to leave office before coming out as racists?
    No. they had a bigoted candidate that made them feel validated and that inspired them to go out and vote. They probably still haven't told anyone they voted for Trump. There's a high level of fear with a good number of white males as we slowly lose our white privilege.
    Now that more numbers are out this whole theory looks wrong. Romney had 59% of white vote while Trump had 58%. It looks like 7 million Obama voters stayed home. That is not Trump inspiring white people but Hillary losing a ton of votes. She was a shitty candidate who couldn't bring out the Obama coalition.
    I'm willing to be wrong, but you can't assume those are all the same white voters. Trump got more of the white uneducated vote than Romney. That's significant.
    You're right...the assumption can't be made. On the flip side I bet there are a ton of white uneducated voters who voted for Obama twice but then flipped to Trump. They had no issue with race, believed in hope and change, but felt over the 8 years that they were ignored. Hillary didn't have the personal touch of her husband to engage those voters.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,305
    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
    I've actually heard that Romney got more votes. Just that Hillary got less than Obama. The Trump campaign to suppress the vote seemed to work, turn everyone off.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,180
    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
    I've actually heard that Romney got more votes. Just that Hillary got less than Obama. The Trump campaign to suppress the vote seemed to work, turn everyone off.
    2008: Obama 69,498,516 / McCain 59,948.323
    2012: Obama 65,915,795 / Romney 60,933,504
    2016: Clinton 59,786,251 / Trump 59,578,826 (as of now)

    Crazy consistent on the GOP side
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,305
    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
    I've actually heard that Romney got more votes. Just that Hillary got less than Obama. The Trump campaign to suppress the vote seemed to work, turn everyone off.
    2008: Obama 69,498,516 / McCain 59,948.323
    2012: Obama 65,915,795 / Romney 60,933,504
    2016: Clinton 59,786,251 / Trump 59,578,826 (as of now)

    Crazy consistent on the GOP side
    Seeing those numbers is pretty depressing, she could have won. Or dare I say it...another democratic candidate could have won.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,180
    edited November 2016
    dignin said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
    I've actually heard that Romney got more votes. Just that Hillary got less than Obama. The Trump campaign to suppress the vote seemed to work, turn everyone off.
    2008: Obama 69,498,516 / McCain 59,948.323
    2012: Obama 65,915,795 / Romney 60,933,504
    2016: Clinton 59,786,251 / Trump 59,578,826 (as of now)

    Crazy consistent on the GOP side
    Seeing those numbers is pretty depressing, she could have won. Or dare I say it...another democratic candidate could have won.
    It begs the question....did the fucking FBI influence the election? Kinda bullshit

    I'm not an anti electoral college guy....but holy shit more people voted for Clinton
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
    I've actually heard that Romney got more votes. Just that Hillary got less than Obama. The Trump campaign to suppress the vote seemed to work, turn everyone off.
    2008: Obama 69,498,516 / McCain 59,948.323
    2012: Obama 65,915,795 / Romney 60,933,504
    2016: Clinton 59,786,251 / Trump 59,578,826 (as of now)

    Crazy consistent on the GOP side
    Seeing those numbers is pretty depressing, she could have won. Or dare I say it...another democratic candidate could have won.
    Exactly. She turned her own base off and Obama couldn't help her. People also seem to forget that Obama really wounded her in 2008. He gutted her on Iraq, on her connections to Wall Street, and even threw some racism accusations towards her campaign. The democratic voters who supported him remembered those attacks and so were already unenthused before she even got out of the gate. Some went to Bernie and others just stayed home. The DNC should have seen this coming.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,305
    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
    I've actually heard that Romney got more votes. Just that Hillary got less than Obama. The Trump campaign to suppress the vote seemed to work, turn everyone off.
    2008: Obama 69,498,516 / McCain 59,948.323
    2012: Obama 65,915,795 / Romney 60,933,504
    2016: Clinton 59,786,251 / Trump 59,578,826 (as of now)

    Crazy consistent on the GOP side
    Seeing those numbers is pretty depressing, she could have won. Or dare I say it...another democratic candidate could have won.
    It begs the question....did the fucking FBI influence the election? Kinda bullshit

    I'm not an anti electoral college guy....but holy shit more people voted for Clinton
    I think the FBI "thing" most definitely fucked her. That was the risk all along though.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,742
    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Jason P said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Jason P said:

    Van Jones should discuss lower black voter turnout in key districts that helped flip Penn and Wisconsin and Michigan before going on a blame whitey rant

    He should blame blacks for the high turnout of closeted white bigots?
    Huh? The KKK didn't just move from Alabama to safe blue states over the last four years.

    Are you implying that white bigots were waiting for a black man to leave office before coming out as racists?
    No. they had a bigoted candidate that made them feel validated and that inspired them to go out and vote. They probably still haven't told anyone they voted for Trump. There's a high level of fear with a good number of white males as we slowly lose our white privilege.
    Now that more numbers are out this whole theory looks wrong. Romney had 59% of white vote while Trump had 58%. It looks like 7 million Obama voters stayed home. That is not Trump inspiring white people but Hillary losing a ton of votes. She was a shitty candidate who couldn't bring out the Obama coalition.
    I'm willing to be wrong, but you can't assume those are all the same white voters. Trump got more of the white uneducated vote than Romney. That's significant.
    You're right...the assumption can't be made. On the flip side I bet there are a ton of white uneducated voters who voted for Obama twice but then flipped to Trump. They had no issue with race, believed in hope and change, but felt over the 8 years that they were ignored. Hillary didn't have the personal touch of her husband to engage those voters.
    I'm doubtful on a Obama flipping uneducated white guy, but the info should come out pretty soon. Painting the picture of the disenfranchised voter is easier to swallow than the alternative.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,180
    dignin said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
    I've actually heard that Romney got more votes. Just that Hillary got less than Obama. The Trump campaign to suppress the vote seemed to work, turn everyone off.
    2008: Obama 69,498,516 / McCain 59,948.323
    2012: Obama 65,915,795 / Romney 60,933,504
    2016: Clinton 59,786,251 / Trump 59,578,826 (as of now)

    Crazy consistent on the GOP side
    Seeing those numbers is pretty depressing, she could have won. Or dare I say it...another democratic candidate could have won.
    It begs the question....did the fucking FBI influence the election? Kinda bullshit

    I'm not an anti electoral college guy....but holy shit more people voted for Clinton
    I think the FBI "thing" most definitely fucked her. That was the risk all along though.
    I'm referring to the bullshit last week though...Comey's letter creating the narrative for the Trump campaign to say the FBI "reopened" the investigation and then Comey's second letter saying there was nothing there. Lots of early voting was done in that time period before the second letter.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,742
    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
    I've actually heard that Romney got more votes. Just that Hillary got less than Obama. The Trump campaign to suppress the vote seemed to work, turn everyone off.
    2008: Obama 69,498,516 / McCain 59,948.323
    2012: Obama 65,915,795 / Romney 60,933,504
    2016: Clinton 59,786,251 / Trump 59,578,826 (as of now)

    Crazy consistent on the GOP side
    Seeing those numbers is pretty depressing, she could have won. Or dare I say it...another democratic candidate could have won.
    It begs the question....did the fucking FBI influence the election? Kinda bullshit

    I'm not an anti electoral college guy....but holy shit more people voted for Clinton
    I think the FBI "thing" most definitely fucked her. That was the risk all along though.
    I'm referring to the bullshit last week though...Comey's letter creating the narrative for the Trump campaign to say the FBI "reopened" the investigation and then Comey's second letter saying there was nothing there. Lots of early voting was done in that time period before the second letter.
    I'm sure that had an effect on voting, and Comey's job is much easier with a fascist president.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,305
    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
    I've actually heard that Romney got more votes. Just that Hillary got less than Obama. The Trump campaign to suppress the vote seemed to work, turn everyone off.
    2008: Obama 69,498,516 / McCain 59,948.323
    2012: Obama 65,915,795 / Romney 60,933,504
    2016: Clinton 59,786,251 / Trump 59,578,826 (as of now)

    Crazy consistent on the GOP side
    Seeing those numbers is pretty depressing, she could have won. Or dare I say it...another democratic candidate could have won.
    It begs the question....did the fucking FBI influence the election? Kinda bullshit

    I'm not an anti electoral college guy....but holy shit more people voted for Clinton
    I think the FBI "thing" most definitely fucked her. That was the risk all along though.
    I'm referring to the bullshit last week though...Comey's letter creating the narrative for the Trump campaign to say the FBI "reopened" the investigation and then Comey's second letter saying there was nothing there. Lots of early voting was done in that time period before the second letter.
    I was referring to the same thing. I even started a thread about it.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/261577/fbi-working-for-trump/p1
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Clinton called for Democrats to accept the result, saying they should give Trump an open mind and the chance to lead.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/blog/live/2016/nov/09/stock-markets-on-edge-as-us-presidential-election-heads-for-tense-climax

    “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama Trump to be a one-term president.”
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    Gern Blansten said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Trump received votes from all colours.
    That's significant.

    You're in denial.
    Trump did better then Romney but I don't think anybody on the right should applaud an African American vote of 8-10%. That is still pathetically small.
    I've actually heard that Romney got more votes. Just that Hillary got less than Obama. The Trump campaign to suppress the vote seemed to work, turn everyone off.
    2008: Obama 69,498,516 / McCain 59,948.323
    2012: Obama 65,915,795 / Romney 60,933,504
    2016: Clinton 59,786,251 / Trump 59,578,826 (as of now)

    Crazy consistent on the GOP side
    wait a minute....
    2016: Clinton 59,786,251 > Trump 59,578,826 (as of now)
    gerrymandered again
    Thanks to the Supreme Court struck down a section of the Voting Rights Act in 2013. And now another (R) appointment. Bad to worse.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Defense stocks

    https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/defense-industry-stocks-surge-following-donald-trump-victory/
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,742
    Because we really need to be spending more money on defense. Yay for deficit spending and global intimidation!
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Protests everywhere... Regime change here
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    Friday13Friday13 Posts: 120
    they should take their medicine and get to work and stop shooting people. we need law and order, thank God we voted for the right candidate. Lets unite against the evil-doers!

    WOOT
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    JC29856 said:

    Protests everywhere... Regime change here

    Imagine if Trump lost...
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    Friday13Friday13 Posts: 120
    Can't imagine another 4 years of Obama agenda

    Good news is with the house, senate and judicial soon come, our President can peel the big govt failures of Barack Hussein Obama
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,665
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Protests everywhere... Regime change here

    Imagine if Trump lost...
    What would happen? Did Republicans riot in 2008 and 2012?
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Protests everywhere... Regime change here

    Imagine if Trump lost...
    The world would be celebrating.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    Friday13 said:

    Can't imagine another 4 years of Obama agenda

    Good news is with the house, senate and judicial soon come, our President can peel the big govt failures of Barack Hussein Obama

    Go back to whatever rock you crawled out from under.
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    Friday13Friday13 Posts: 120
    edited November 2016
    I was here first
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,477
    Just ignore it .
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    josevolution said:

    Just ignore it .

    lol

    Hard to do with such persistence though isn't it? The kid's trying so damn hard.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Let me get this straight...
    rigged DNC primaries, meh politics as usual, free and fair presidential election (per Hilliary), protests in major cities, not my president.
    Makes complete sense.

    47% of eligible voters did NOT vote.

    Yakoff Smirnoff
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,800
    Nice election system..good luck Earth..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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