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PJ_Soul said:

Can someone please show me a post where someone has apologized for Hillary? I'd just like a reference here, since it's the new catch phrase.

apologist
noun [ C ] UK ​ /əˈpɒl.ə.dʒɪst/ US ​ /əˈpɑː.lə.dʒɪst/ formal
​
a person who supports a particular belief or political system, especially an unpopular one, and speaks or writes in defence of it:
communism and its apologists
There are few apologists for the old system.

Free

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so everyone thinks Trump is getting destroyed on election day. current CNN/ORC polling numbers suggest he now leads:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2016/09/06/trump-edging-out-clinton-in-tight-election-contest-poll?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Not everyone

I knew someone had to post the news of the polls.

OH THE DRAMA!!

Degeneratefk

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so everyone thinks Trump is getting destroyed on election day. current CNN/ORC polling numbers suggest he now leads:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2016/09/06/trump-edging-out-clinton-in-tight-election-contest-poll?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Not everyone

clearly.

I think he loses by at least 10 points. The one thing Free and I do agree on are that polls are meaningless.

HughFreakingDillon

Free said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so everyone thinks Trump is getting destroyed on election day. current CNN/ORC polling numbers suggest he now leads:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2016/09/06/trump-edging-out-clinton-in-tight-election-contest-poll?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Not everyone

I knew someone had to post the news of the polls.

OH THE DRAMA!!

it's not drama. why are polls considered meaningless?

pjhawks

HughFreakingDillon said:

Free said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so everyone thinks Trump is getting destroyed on election day. current CNN/ORC polling numbers suggest he now leads:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2016/09/06/trump-edging-out-clinton-in-tight-election-contest-poll?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Not everyone

I knew someone had to post the news of the polls.

OH THE DRAMA!!

it's not drama. why are polls considered meaningless?

because national voting percentages mean nothing. it's all about electoral votes. Trump without PA, OH, and/or VA can't win. he is still losing in those states.

HughFreakingDillon

pjhawks said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Free said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so everyone thinks Trump is getting destroyed on election day. current CNN/ORC polling numbers suggest he now leads:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2016/09/06/trump-edging-out-clinton-in-tight-election-contest-poll?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Not everyone

I knew someone had to post the news of the polls.

OH THE DRAMA!!

it's not drama. why are polls considered meaningless?

because national voting percentages mean nothing. it's all about electoral votes. Trump without PA, OH, and/or VA can't win. he is still losing in those states.

I assumed the polls would have taken that into consideration.

Free

Polls are a media tool to influence behavior. They are used to create drama to make you think that they matter when they really don't. Media has to create drama in one way or another anyway...

HughFreakingDillon

Free said:

Polls are a media tool to influence behavior. They are used to create drama to make you think that they matter when they really don't. Media has to create drama in one way or another anyway...

I'm not new to this idea, I just thought that maybe the polling tools would have been a little more sophisticated than that.

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjhawks said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Free said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so everyone thinks Trump is getting destroyed on election day. current CNN/ORC polling numbers suggest he now leads:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2016/09/06/trump-edging-out-clinton-in-tight-election-contest-poll?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Not everyone

I knew someone had to post the news of the polls.

OH THE DRAMA!!

it's not drama. why are polls considered meaningless?

because national voting percentages mean nothing. it's all about electoral votes. Trump without PA, OH, and/or VA can't win. he is still losing in those states.

I assumed the polls would have taken that into consideration.

It is odd to watch my news feed and see "Trump now leads Clinton by 2% Nationwide" and then a few minutes later see "Clinton maintains 6 point national lead over Trump"

There are many many polls. What Nate Silver would say is that they are consistent. Some are consistently wrong and some are consistently right. His formula takes all of those into account.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#plus

Even with Trump shrinking the polling gap he still shows Clinton with a 67% likelihood of being elected at this point. A few weeks ago it was closer to 80%

Degeneratefk

HughFreakingDillon said:

Free said:

Polls are a media tool to influence behavior. They are used to create drama to make you think that they matter when they really don't. Media has to create drama in one way or another anyway...

I'm not new to this idea, I just thought that maybe the polling tools would have been a little more sophisticated than that.

I don't think polls take electoral votes into consideration at all. Why would they?

Gern Blansten

Degeneratefk said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Free said:

Polls are a media tool to influence behavior. They are used to create drama to make you think that they matter when they really don't. Media has to create drama in one way or another anyway...

I'm not new to this idea, I just thought that maybe the polling tools would have been a little more sophisticated than that.

I don't think polls take electoral votes into consideration at all. Why would they?

yeah they don't...not necessary

mrussel1

Correct. National polls are weighted for political affiliation and other demographics, but not state. However, a tightening of polls nationally will likely lead to the same effect in the states. Clinton cannot run out the clock or rely on the debates. She needs to get back out on the trail and on the news. Trumps handlers have stemmed the bleeding.

PS I sincerely apologize for Hillary.

OffSheGoes35

Ch-ching ch-ching!

mrussel1

OffSheGoes35 said:

Ch-ching ch-ching!

Hey, maybe my PJ troll income can offset all the money I spend on tour and on vinyls.

brianlux

While sitting in the waiting room waiting for a CT scan today I watched a bit of CNN News on their TV. The story was about how Trump and Hillary were in a "virtual tie". Did I shit my pants seeing that? No, I just rolled my eyes. The whole thing played out on TV like some bad, dumb virtual reality TV show. Welcome to the new America- a poorly scripted dumb virtual reality TV show.

Free

brianlux said:

While sitting in the waiting room waiting for a CT scan today I watched a bit of CNN News on their TV. The story was about how Trump and Hillary were in a "virtual tie". Did I shit my pants seeing that? No, I just rolled my eyes. The whole thing played out on TV like some bad, dumb virtual reality TV show. Welcome to the new America- a poorly scripted dumb virtual reality TV show.

The drama, Brian!!

brianlux

Free said:

brianlux said:

While sitting in the waiting room waiting for a CT scan today I watched a bit of CNN News on their TV. The story was about how Trump and Hillary were in a "virtual tie". Did I shit my pants seeing that? No, I just rolled my eyes. The whole thing played out on TV like some bad, dumb virtual reality TV show. Welcome to the new America- a poorly scripted dumb virtual reality TV show.

The drama, Brian!!

If it wasn't so fucking sad it would be funny as hell!

OffSheGoes35

mrussel1 said:

OffSheGoes35 said:

Ch-ching ch-ching!

Hey, maybe my PJ troll income can offset all the money I spend on tour and on vinyls.

And then some! You've been apologizing your ass off today! Free is going to make you a rich man.

Gern Blansten

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/06/newt-gingrich-has-coughing-fit-while-touting-hillary-clinton-cough-story.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page

Fucking hilarious

bootlegger10

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/06/newt-gingrich-has-coughing-fit-while-touting-hillary-clinton-cough-story.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page

Fucking hilarious

I don't even have to watch it to laugh at that premise.