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Okay, think of it this way.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
Let's just take Google as the stock (Alphabet). It closed yesterday at $701. The aftermarket traders at 1230 AM started a massive sell overnight so by time it opened today it was 675. So if I closed the day yesterday with the purchasing power of 100 shares, I only had 96 shares this morning. Let's say all those people that sold immediately bought the dollar. It closed yesterday at 93 but overnight it jumped to 96. If I sold my alphabet shares yesterday before the market closed, I could have bought 753 shares. But this morning, I could only buy 703 shares. That $ is gone. It's a loss.0 -
Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
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You still are not explaining how this is Trumps fault.
You can't even explain where it went. Quit repeating that you lost money I get it. You lost it to who? Who has your lost money?0 -
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?0 -
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?0 -
Dude, are you for real? Do you understand how this all works? When people pull their money out of the market, it tanks the price. If you own a piece of that, the value of your ownership goes down.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
When you buy a house for 300k and then two years later no one will pay you more than 270k for it, do you pretend it's not really a loss? It's the same concept.0 -
The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
Am I being fucked with here?0 -
Lmao funny stuff it's not like Trump university when those folks got ripped off they knew exactly who the thieve was hence law suit , who should I've called ?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I don't blame people for not paying what others (the market) says it's worth. Yes it is nice to be in a house watching the value go up every year until you decide to sell it. In the end you get what you should. A shack is a shack.mrussel1 said:
Dude, are you for real? Do you understand how this all works? When people pull their money out of the market, it tanks the price. If you own a piece of that, the value of your ownership goes down.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
When you buy a house for 300k and then two years later no one will pay you more than 270k for it, do you pretend it's not really a loss? It's the same concept.
Mom and Pop were right about keeping your money in a shoebox underneath your bed. You will always know your worth.
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Exactly - cash out.mrussel1 said:
The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
Am I being fucked with here?0 -
Facts of the day, folks! Just as they happened!PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
THIS guy. Hahahaha
Who knew a thread in the AMT would be my new go-to when needing a laugh?www.myspace.com0 -
Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Exactly - cash out.mrussel1 said:
The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
Am I being fucked with here?
But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.
I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.0 -
Nah, I think this guy is doing a bang up job. I love this thread.mrussel1 said:
Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Exactly - cash out.mrussel1 said:
The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
Am I being fucked with here?
But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.
I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.www.myspace.com0 -
But your to smart to be a conservative you always have correct facts and see things from every perspective, please let him/her keep their position lolmrussel1 said:
Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Exactly - cash out.mrussel1 said:
The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
Am I being fucked with here?
But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.
I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I really need someone to make sense. This is driving me nuts.The Juggler said:
Nah, I think this guy is doing a bang up job. I love this thread.mrussel1 said:
Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Exactly - cash out.mrussel1 said:
The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
Am I being fucked with here?
But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.
I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
0 -
It's possible he could be like one of those fake Twitter bots that are just there to troll people or whatever. They also make up about 80% of Trump's followers.mrussel1 said:
I really need someone to make sense. This is driving me nuts.The Juggler said:
Nah, I think this guy is doing a bang up job. I love this thread.mrussel1 said:
Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Exactly - cash out.mrussel1 said:
The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
Am I being fucked with here?
But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.
I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.www.myspace.com0 -
+/- 5%The Juggler said:
It's possible he could be like one of those fake Twitter bots that are just there to troll people or whatever. They also make up about 80% of Trump's followers.mrussel1 said:
I really need someone to make sense. This is driving me nuts.The Juggler said:
Nah, I think this guy is doing a bang up job. I love this thread.mrussel1 said:
Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Exactly - cash out.mrussel1 said:
The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Did you ever question who received your loss?josevolution said:
Just kept investing into my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?josevolution said:
Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I do understand that you had a financial loss.mrussel1 said:
The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.mrussel1 said:
Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.mrussel1 said:
My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?mrussel1 said:
Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.Jason P said:
Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.The Juggler said:
This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. haPJ_Soul said:
Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed.The Juggler said:
See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.PJ_Soul said:
That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.PJ_Soul said:
He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).Gern Blansten said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb
How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.
The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184
Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
It was time for action.
Money lost? to who? where did it go?
Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
Where did it go to?
Am I being fucked with here?
But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.
I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.0 -
I only read this article now after posting my previous thoughts. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/24/
The lesson for U.S. politics is that polls showing a steady lead for Clinton could underestimate the extent to which voters are fed up with the status quo and are willing to take a risk on a candidate like Trump — whose rhetoric on trade and immigration is very similar to that used by the Leave campaign.0
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