Bernie Sanders for President

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    rustneversleeps said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    FTR, I thought our discussion was on a pretty reasonable track mrussel1. ;)

    i see now, you were referring to frees comment... carry on.
    Incidentally, I do think Sanders is quite smart but that doesn't mean he doesn't make bad decisions, some of which are only clear in hindsight. For example, he completely ceded the South. I'm not sure he could have won down there, but he had the cash to campaign, particularly in FL and VA. He went light in Kentucky where he could have won. He also picked a fight with Barney Frank which I think eliminated his chances of flipping SD. I'm not sure the DSW fight was smart either.

    I'm not implying any of these would have changed the outcome, but smart people make bad decisions. This is one I think is a bad one.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2016
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies.
    Post edited by Free on
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies?
    More like annoyed with fanboys.

    Rallies? Too bad he couldn't get more people to the rallies, otherwise he'd have a chance at becoming president
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies?
    More like annoyed with fanboys.

    Rallies? Too bad he couldn't get more people to the rallies, otherwise he'd have a chance at becoming president
    And.., as most everyone else seems to forget... The huge and growing Independent party, much of whom haven't even VOTED yet. I bet you conveniently forgot what primaries actually are. Silly rabbit.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies.
    Rallies don't mean shit. It's votes.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies?
    More like annoyed with fanboys.

    Rallies? Too bad he couldn't get more people to the rallies, otherwise he'd have a chance at becoming president
    And.., as most everyone else seems to forget... The huge and growing Independent party, much of whom haven't even VOTED yet. I bet you conveniently forgot what primaries actually are. Silly rabbit.
    Kinda like you conveniently forget the race is over?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    I'm starting to think Benie fanboys are worse than Trump fanboys...certainly more delusional
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Thank you Free, for continuing to fight for REAL change. Those who have thrown in the towel and given up on having any hope of real change in this ever-weakening country should thank our lucky stars for people like Free who continue on with the good fight.

    My generation was going to change the world and we gave that up for our own selfish concerns of maintaining our Kushy Kulture and Kumort status. For a time, Pearl Jam and their fans and similar folk have given new life to that hope but they grow weak are giving in as well. Where is our hope now? My grand-kids? Your kids? We'd best hope to god they do something better than most of us and fight for true progressive change while there are still a few hours left to do so.

    Probably best not to get old, cranky and bitter like me but that beats giving in and supporting the pathetic status quo. I will never do that. That is worse than bottom feeding.

    Sorry for the intrusion.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies?
    More like annoyed with fanboys.

    Rallies? Too bad he couldn't get more people to the rallies, otherwise he'd have a chance at becoming president
    And.., as most everyone else seems to forget... The huge and growing Independent party, much of whom haven't even VOTED yet. I bet you conveniently forgot what primaries actually are. Silly rabbit.
    Kinda like you conveniently forget the race is over?
    You ARE angry, much like all establishment. Can't push a non-traditional socialist to act like a traditional politician, and it drives the pundits nuts!!
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies.
    Rallies don't mean shit. It's votes.
    Can't find any giant Hillary rallies, I see. Independents: the growing, scary 3rd party ready to rock your world.
    Post edited by Free on
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies?
    More like annoyed with fanboys.

    Rallies? Too bad he couldn't get more people to the rallies, otherwise he'd have a chance at becoming president
    And.., as most everyone else seems to forget... The huge and growing Independent party, much of whom haven't even VOTED yet. I bet you conveniently forgot what primaries actually are. Silly rabbit.
    Kinda like you conveniently forget the race is over?
    You ARE angry, much like all establishment. Can't push a non-traditional socialist to act like a traditional politician, and it drives the pundits nuts!!
    I'm good, man. Especially considering the candidate I support has a very good chance at becoming president. Your excessive use of capitalization does chap my ass though.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Cliffy6745 said:

    I'm starting to think Benie fanboys are worse than Trump fanboys...certainly more delusional

    Ooh, insults! Like Hillary hasn't shelled out enough towards us. She'll have the surprise of her life when she has to entice us to vote for her. Cause it's not happening.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    You're in for a hell of a let down awfully soon
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies.
    Rallies don't mean shit. It's votes.
    Clinton needs my Independent vote. Too bad.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Cliffy6745 said:

    You're in for a hell of a let down awfully soon

    So are you.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    It's beyond idiotic that people wouldn't support a candidate with a very similar agenda over someone that is completely opposite
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    You're in for a hell of a let down awfully soon

    So are you.
    Like I said, delusional
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    brianlux said:

    Thank you Free, for continuing to fight for REAL change. Those who have thrown in the towel and given up on having any hope of real change in this ever-weakening country should thank our lucky stars for people like Free who continue on with the good fight.

    My generation was going to change the world and we gave that up for our own selfish concerns of maintaining our Kushy Kulture and Kumort status. For a time, Pearl Jam and their fans and similar folk have given new life to that hope but they grow weak are giving in as well. Where is our hope now? My grand-kids? Your kids? We'd best hope to god they do something better than most of us and fight for true progressive change while there are still a few hours left to do so.

    Probably best not to get old, cranky and bitter like me but that beats giving in and supporting the pathetic status quo. I will never do that. That is worse than bottom feeding.

    Sorry for the intrusion.

    Good to see you Brian. :)
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2016
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    You're in for a hell of a let down awfully soon

    So are you.
    Like I said, delusional
    yes, yes you are.
    :)

  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,453
    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies?
    More like annoyed with fanboys.

    Rallies? Too bad he couldn't get more people to the rallies, otherwise he'd have a chance at becoming president
    And.., as most everyone else seems to forget... The huge and growing Independent party, much of whom haven't even VOTED yet. I bet you conveniently forgot what primaries actually are. Silly rabbit.
    There is NO "independent party ".
    There are voters who are registered independents. But there is NO "independent party".

    Namaste
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