Bernie Sanders for President

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Free said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies?
    More like annoyed with fanboys.

    Rallies? Too bad he couldn't get more people to the rallies, otherwise he'd have a chance at becoming president
    And.., as most everyone else seems to forget... The huge and growing Independent party, much of whom haven't even VOTED yet. I bet you conveniently forgot what primaries actually are. Silly rabbit.
    Kinda like you conveniently forget the race is over?
    You ARE angry, much like all establishment. Can't push a non-traditional socialist to act like a traditional politician, and it drives the pundits nuts!!
    I'm good, man. Especially considering the candidate I support has a very good chance at becoming president. Your excessive use of capitalization does chap my ass though.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    I'm starting to think Benie fanboys are worse than Trump fanboys...certainly more delusional

    Ooh, insults! Like Hillary hasn't shelled out enough towards us. She'll have the surprise of her life when she has to entice us to vote for her. Cause it's not happening.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    You're in for a hell of a let down awfully soon
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies.
    Rallies don't mean shit. It's votes.
    Clinton needs my Independent vote. Too bad.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    You're in for a hell of a let down awfully soon

    So are you.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    It's beyond idiotic that people wouldn't support a candidate with a very similar agenda over someone that is completely opposite
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Free said:

    You're in for a hell of a let down awfully soon

    So are you.
    Like I said, delusional
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    brianlux said:

    Thank you Free, for continuing to fight for REAL change. Those who have thrown in the towel and given up on having any hope of real change in this ever-weakening country should thank our lucky stars for people like Free who continue on with the good fight.

    My generation was going to change the world and we gave that up for our own selfish concerns of maintaining our Kushy Kulture and Kumort status. For a time, Pearl Jam and their fans and similar folk have given new life to that hope but they grow weak are giving in as well. Where is our hope now? My grand-kids? Your kids? We'd best hope to god they do something better than most of us and fight for true progressive change while there are still a few hours left to do so.

    Probably best not to get old, cranky and bitter like me but that beats giving in and supporting the pathetic status quo. I will never do that. That is worse than bottom feeding.

    Sorry for the intrusion.

    Good to see you Brian. :)
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2016

    Free said:

    You're in for a hell of a let down awfully soon

    So are you.
    Like I said, delusional
    yes, yes you are.
    :)

  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,774
    Free said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies?
    More like annoyed with fanboys.

    Rallies? Too bad he couldn't get more people to the rallies, otherwise he'd have a chance at becoming president
    And.., as most everyone else seems to forget... The huge and growing Independent party, much of whom haven't even VOTED yet. I bet you conveniently forgot what primaries actually are. Silly rabbit.
    There is NO "independent party ".
    There are voters who are registered independents. But there is NO "independent party".

    Namaste
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    It's beyond idiotic that people wouldn't support a candidate with a very similar agenda over someone that is completely opposite

    Very similar huh. Point out exactly how Sanders and Clinton are similar. Because they couldn't be more different. She represents and takes money from corporate and special interests, big banks, fossil fuel industries and refuses to release income taxes and closed door speech transcripts. He represents the people, takes money only from individual donors, not from corporate interests. He recognizes climate change and wants renewable energy pushed. He released taxes and all speech transcripts. She's pro-war, he's pro-peace. She slams young women and millennials for supporting Sanders. He accepts all people, LGBT, and even let BLM people interrupt his speech so they could speak. Clinton tells BLM woman to get out of her event, yells at Greenpeace activist at another. She wants to ban guns, he does not.

    So tell me how they are similar other than running on the Dem. platform.
  • I will post this in the Trump thread too.
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/07/
    "To all of those Bernie Sanders voters who have been left out in the cold by a rigged system of superdelegates, we welcome you with open arms," Trump said. "And by the way, the terrible trade deals that Bernie is so vehemently against — and he's right on that — will be taken care of far better than anyone ever thought possible."
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2016

    Free said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies?
    More like annoyed with fanboys.

    Rallies? Too bad he couldn't get more people to the rallies, otherwise he'd have a chance at becoming president
    And.., as most everyone else seems to forget... The huge and growing Independent party, much of whom haven't even VOTED yet. I bet you conveniently forgot what primaries actually are. Silly rabbit.
    There is NO "independent party ".
    There are voters who are registered independents. But there is NO "independent party".

    Namaste
    :lol:
    Seriously guys.

    http://www.nyindependenceparty.com/

    So, when Trump's kids registered to vote but voted no party, you must think that they're independent? They literally chose "no party", not Independent.

    I think what you were thinking is that an independent candidate doesn't have to belong to one of the two parties.
    Post edited by Free on
  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,118

    I will post this in the Trump thread too.
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/07/
    "To all of those Bernie Sanders voters who have been left out in the cold by a rigged system of superdelegates, we welcome you with open arms," Trump said. "And by the way, the terrible trade deals that Bernie is so vehemently against — and he's right on that — will be taken care of far better than anyone ever thought possible."

    Hah. This is rich.

    I don't understand Bernie supporters finding something to like about Trump's "message."
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,774
    edited June 2016
    Free said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies?
    More like annoyed with fanboys.

    Rallies? Too bad he couldn't get more people to the rallies, otherwise he'd have a chance at becoming president
    And.., as most everyone else seems to forget... The huge and growing Independent party, much of whom haven't even VOTED yet. I bet you conveniently forgot what primaries actually are. Silly rabbit.
    There is NO "independent party ".
    There are voters who are registered independents. But there is NO "independent party".

    Namaste
    :lol:
    Seriously guys.

    http://www.nyindependenceparty.com/

    So, when Trump's kids registered to vote but voted no party, you must think that they're independent? They literally chose "no party", not Independent.

    I think what you were thinking is that an independent candidate doesn't have to belong to one of the two parties.
    Is there an independent party?
    An independent or nonpartisan politician is an individual politician not affiliated to any political party. There are numerous reasons why someone may stand for office as an independent. Independents may support policies which are different from those of the major political parties.

    Maybe you want to be a part of these "independent" parties...


    American Independence Party

    "The American Independent Party (AIP) is a far right political party of the United States that was established in 1967 by Bill Shearer and his wife, Eileen Knowland Shearer, a cousin of the late Republican U. S. Senator William F. Knowland of California."

    Independent American Party
    The Independent American Party (IAP) is a paleoconservative political party in the United States. It began as the Utah Independent American Party. The founders claim to have been inspired by a 1968 speech given by Ezra Taft Benson, former United States Secretary of Agriculture, entitled "The Proper Role of Government".
    1993 Utah wanted a “truly” conservative party, and citizens formed the Utah IAP. The founders were inspired by a speech given by Ezra T. Benson.
    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    jeffbr said:

    You're right, it is Sanders right to campaign straight to the convention. Nobody has denied that. But the bozos you are calling out (I guess I'm one as well), are talking about what a reasonable candidate would/should do if that candidate cared about the party or the party's presumptive nominee winning the election against someone like Trump. Bernie can do whatever he wants. That doesn't mean it is the smart or right thing to do. The only US senator who supports Bernie is telling him that he's done and should pack it in. I guess he's a bozo, too.

    Your fact about superdelegates voting in July is right on the money. The other fact that you don't like is that superdelegates have mostly already indicated how they'll be voting, and they typically stick to that. When they don't, it typically isn't in large enough numbers to affect the outcome.

    As I've said previously, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just like being a spectator in this political game. I don't want any of the three remaining candidates to be my president. Only two of the three have a shot, and one of those two scares the hell out of me. I'm sure Trump is thankful to have people like you and like Bernie helping him fight Hillary.

    Reasonable candidate? He's no reasonable candidate when he challenges establishment America. Why do you think he has so many people supporting him? Because for the people of this country, the only candidate who's willing to fight for the actual people of this country, the people actually have a real candidate with THEIR back and not the corporations. He's not typical, and people are fed up with the corporations and 1% running this country. His supporters don't fall for that huge fear tactic of Trump. His supporters actually want much needed CHANGE. And real change doesn't follow any rules as to what a "reasonable candidate would/should do". And no, Sanders doesn't care about the Dems, nor the 2 party system. He cares about the PEOPLE of this country, not the facade of doing whatever possible to help the Dem candidate. That's what people are not understanding.

    Sanders is the real deal, not some phony "get in line", "serve your backers", "incite fear into the people" bullshit. He is interested in real change and that's why his movement isn't a fleeting idea. He may not win, but this movement will continue. For the greater good of this country, and not in serving the establishment.
    You know how many supporters he has? About 3 million less than Hillary, so scram dude, it's over
    You sound angry. Hee hee hee

    Care to share photos of some Hillary rallies.
    Rallies don't mean shit. It's votes.
    Can't find any giant Hillary rallies, I see. Independents: the growing, scary 3rd party ready to rock your world.
    So bizarre. He got smoked last night. You've been wrong on just about everything thus far. Why break your streak?
  • So is this false reporting or not? http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-faces-familiar-hurdles-general-election-begins-n588591
    The Republican primaries are over and the general election has begun. Donald Trump will face off against Hillary Clinton to determine who will be the 45th president of the United States.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    mrussel1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:



    jeffbr said:

    I get that Bernie wants to take his "revolution" to the convention, but he needs to stop lying to his supporters. It's over. Hillary has complete control. She owns the popular vote, the delegates, and the superdelegate count. The only thing Bernie is doing now is helping Trump. If that's his goal, then well played, Bernie.

    I don't see how it would be helping Trump. The general election campaign isn't happening yet. Whether Bernie bows out now, or makes his point by staying in the race until the Dem nomination is ACTUALLY won, instead of fake-won the way the media wants it, it won't impact how the two ACTUAL nominees go head to head.
    The general election campaigning is currently under way. The presumptive nominees have been decided, and both the presumptive nominees are focused on one another. So if Bernie keeps up his campaign against Hillary, that is providing fuel for Trump. It also essentially pits Hillary against Trump and Bernie. Bernie needs to help unite the party. The longer he battles Clinton, the more damage he's doing to the Dems chances in the general. His current fight against Clinton is an exercise in futility. If he plays nicely he can still have an influence on the party platform. But at this point he isn't and won't be the nominee. He needs to stop pretending.
    Maybe Bernie knows something we don't know, I have no idea. But I really don't think that Bernie continuing to campaign will make those who wouldn't vote for Trump now change their minds. I honestly do not think that it will have the kind of impact you're suggesting. Also, I think that just on principle alone, Bernie has a good point. The way the media has played this nomination "announcement" is just plain wrong.
    It may have been wrong but HRC didn't want it either. It doesn't make her any less the nominee.

    The guy spent a month in California and lost by 12. He spent weeks in NY and got clobbered. He lost FL, VA, NC, OH, PA. These are the swing states. He lost pledged, super, and total vote. There is literally no argument for him not to concede, other than stubbornness or narcissism. He has the influence to shape the platform, but he will lose it if he doesn't drop by next week.
    I suppose a current FBI investigation with the possibility of felony indictments is literally nothing??
    Wrong. It matters, and it is a valid reason for him to stay in until the convention on a wing and a prayer.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • ^^^
    The only wing and a prayer going for him is the thoughts of people that believe that shit.
  • EM194007EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    rgambs said:


    I suppose a current FBI investigation with the possibility of felony indictments is literally nothing??
    Wrong. It matters, and it is a valid reason for him to stay in until the convention on a wing and a prayer.

    With Obama going to endorse Clinton. Do you really think the DOJ will prosecute her? The FBI can only recommend the indictment.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:



    jeffbr said:

    I get that Bernie wants to take his "revolution" to the convention, but he needs to stop lying to his supporters. It's over. Hillary has complete control. She owns the popular vote, the delegates, and the superdelegate count. The only thing Bernie is doing now is helping Trump. If that's his goal, then well played, Bernie.

    I don't see how it would be helping Trump. The general election campaign isn't happening yet. Whether Bernie bows out now, or makes his point by staying in the race until the Dem nomination is ACTUALLY won, instead of fake-won the way the media wants it, it won't impact how the two ACTUAL nominees go head to head.
    The general election campaigning is currently under way. The presumptive nominees have been decided, and both the presumptive nominees are focused on one another. So if Bernie keeps up his campaign against Hillary, that is providing fuel for Trump. It also essentially pits Hillary against Trump and Bernie. Bernie needs to help unite the party. The longer he battles Clinton, the more damage he's doing to the Dems chances in the general. His current fight against Clinton is an exercise in futility. If he plays nicely he can still have an influence on the party platform. But at this point he isn't and won't be the nominee. He needs to stop pretending.
    Maybe Bernie knows something we don't know, I have no idea. But I really don't think that Bernie continuing to campaign will make those who wouldn't vote for Trump now change their minds. I honestly do not think that it will have the kind of impact you're suggesting. Also, I think that just on principle alone, Bernie has a good point. The way the media has played this nomination "announcement" is just plain wrong.
    It may have been wrong but HRC didn't want it either. It doesn't make her any less the nominee.

    The guy spent a month in California and lost by 12. He spent weeks in NY and got clobbered. He lost FL, VA, NC, OH, PA. These are the swing states. He lost pledged, super, and total vote. There is literally no argument for him not to concede, other than stubbornness or narcissism. He has the influence to shape the platform, but he will lose it if he doesn't drop by next week.
    I suppose a current FBI investigation with the possibility of felony indictments is literally nothing??
    Wrong. It matters, and it is a valid reason for him to stay in until the convention on a wing and a prayer.
    He doesn't have to stay in to take advantage of an indictment. He doesn't lose the pledged delegates.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    So is this false reporting or not? http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-faces-familiar-hurdles-general-election-begins-n588591
    The Republican primaries are over and the general election has begun. Donald Trump will face off against Hillary Clinton to determine who will be the 45th president of the United States.

    Yes. Because primaries aren't over. Washington DC votes next week. Then the convention.
    https://www.usa.gov/election#item-212585

    It doesn't matter that it most likely will be the outcome, it's reporting false news. This shit happens every day and they had the balls to try and call it early and try to get away with it. The night before 5 primaries. Signifying people to think they don't need to vote because "they called it".

    Clinton has not reached the delegate count necessary to win. Hence the reason to have to go til July for the SD count. But I didn't have to mention it, you're all on top of it. ;)
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Free said:

    So is this false reporting or not? http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-faces-familiar-hurdles-general-election-begins-n588591
    The Republican primaries are over and the general election has begun. Donald Trump will face off against Hillary Clinton to determine who will be the 45th president of the United States.

    Yes. Because primaries aren't over. Washington DC votes next week. Then the convention.
    https://www.usa.gov/election#item-212585

    It doesn't matter that it most likely will be the outcome, it's reporting false news. This shit happens every day and they had the balls to try and call it early and try to get away with it. The night before 5 primaries. Signifying people to think they don't need to vote because "they called it".

    Clinton has not reached the delegate count necessary to win. Hence the reason to have to go til July for the SD count. But I didn't have to mention it, you're all on top of it. ;)
    Yeah we all knew. Most of us didn't just start following politics this season. We're also familiar with practical realities. I mean, what do you suggest? Censorship of the AP? Should they be fined or jailed for calling delegates and asking their preference?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,774
    Free said:

    So is this false reporting or not? http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-faces-familiar-hurdles-general-election-begins-n588591
    The Republican primaries are over and the general election has begun. Donald Trump will face off against Hillary Clinton to determine who will be the 45th president of the United States.

    Yes. Because primaries aren't over. Washington DC votes next week. Then the convention.
    https://www.usa.gov/election#item-212585

    It doesn't matter that it most likely will be the outcome, it's reporting false news. This shit happens every day and they had the balls to try and call it early and try to get away with it. The night before 5 primaries. Signifying people to think they don't need to vote because "they called it".

    Clinton has not reached the delegate count necessary to win. Hence the reason to have to go til July for the SD count. But I didn't have to mention it, you're all on top of it. ;)
    The DC republican primary was held May 3rd
    Next Tuesday is the Democratic primary
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    https://www.facebook.com/claudia.stauber/videos/10208406839661545/

    "This video is a live feed from Bernie arriving in Vermont. He had the opportunity for a press conference, they were all set up for him but instead he decided to go down to the corner of the intersection and be with his people, without the press!!!!

    Jane Sanders"

    This proves that Bernie Sanders is not your typical politician, and prove that he really is for the people.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Free said:

    https://www.facebook.com/claudia.stauber/videos/10208406839661545/

    "This video is a live feed from Bernie arriving in Vermont. He had the opportunity for a press conference, they were all set up for him but instead he decided to go down to the corner of the intersection and be with his people, without the press!!!!

    Jane Sanders"

    This proves that Bernie Sanders is not your typical politician, and prove that he really is for the people.

    That's...admirable? He's seemed to embrace and use media exposure in other instances. More to come, I believe.

    I think it's important to balance fervor with objectivity.

    (in fact, scratch the former!)
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2016
    hedonist said:

    Free said:

    https://www.facebook.com/claudia.stauber/videos/10208406839661545/

    "This video is a live feed from Bernie arriving in Vermont. He had the opportunity for a press conference, they were all set up for him but instead he decided to go down to the corner of the intersection and be with his people, without the press!!!!

    Jane Sanders"

    This proves that Bernie Sanders is not your typical politician, and prove that he really is for the people.

    That's...admirable? He's seemed to embrace and use media exposure in other instances. More to come, I believe.

    I think it's important to balance fervor with objectivity.

    (in fact, scratch the former!)
    That was not media exposure, it was personal video, posted to a Sanders group. Hardly media.

    And please, point out where he's gotten and used media exposure, when his rallies were nothing but ignored.

    He not only would embrace some media exposure, it's owed to him as a presidential candidate!
    Post edited by Free on
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Free said:

    hedonist said:

    Free said:

    https://www.facebook.com/claudia.stauber/videos/10208406839661545/

    "This video is a live feed from Bernie arriving in Vermont. He had the opportunity for a press conference, they were all set up for him but instead he decided to go down to the corner of the intersection and be with his people, without the press!!!!

    Jane Sanders"

    This proves that Bernie Sanders is not your typical politician, and prove that he really is for the people.

    That's...admirable? He's seemed to embrace and use media exposure in other instances. More to come, I believe.

    I think it's important to balance fervor with objectivity.

    (in fact, scratch the former!)
    That was not media exposure, it was personal video, posted to a Sanders group. Hardly media.

    And please, point out where he's gotten and used media exposure, when his rallies were nothing but ignored.

    He not only would embrace some media exposure, it's owed to him as a presidential candidate!
    You and others have linked to his rallies, emphasizing they weren't ignored (but were they not shared through media?).

    Isn't he meeting with Obama?
  • ckravitzckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    Free said:

    hedonist said:

    Free said:

    https://www.facebook.com/claudia.stauber/videos/10208406839661545/

    "This video is a live feed from Bernie arriving in Vermont. He had the opportunity for a press conference, they were all set up for him but instead he decided to go down to the corner of the intersection and be with his people, without the press!!!!

    Jane Sanders"

    This proves that Bernie Sanders is not your typical politician, and prove that he really is for the people.

    That's...admirable? He's seemed to embrace and use media exposure in other instances. More to come, I believe.

    I think it's important to balance fervor with objectivity.

    (in fact, scratch the former!)
    That was not media exposure, it was personal video, posted to a Sanders group. Hardly media.

    And please, point out where he's gotten and used media exposure, when his rallies were nothing but ignored.

    He not only would embrace some media exposure, it's owed to him as a presidential candidate!
    Uh, didn't he basically run as a Dem (vs Indy) to ensure he got broader media coverage than an indy usually gets?
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