Bernie Sanders for President

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  • Free said:

    ^^^
    Trump has said very early that Bernie needs to keep his supporters in check.
    Something he is not doing.

    Again, please show us, Oh truthful one.
    I have debated my point too many times about this.
    All recent headlines are now about the very thing Donald foreshadowed would happen.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    ^^^
    Trump has said very early that Bernie needs to keep his supporters in check.
    Something he is not doing.

    Again, please show us, Oh truthful one.
    I have debated my point too many times about this.
    All recent headlines are now about the very thing Donald foreshadowed would happen.
    :lol:
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Jason P said:

    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    Trump supporters are not going out to look to start shit at opposition rally's. Something that Bernie supporters should consider in the future.

    The ultra left may gift bag this election to the clown if they keep their shot up.

    Care to show video of what you're proclaiming here? Or did you get your info from CNN.
    A blue Bernie supporter instigating a fight with a Trump red supporter ...

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Yeah.^^^ And where did this happen?

    People looking for trouble found trouble. I don't want to defend the clown, but the left have got to get there shit together. 4 or 5 Midwest states may decide this election, and antics of violence that the left has instigated will swing critical votes to Trump.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited May 2016
    Jason P said:

    Yeah.^^^ And where did this happen?

    People looking for trouble found trouble. I don't want to defend the clown, but the left have got to get there shit together. 4 or 5 Midwest states may decide this election, and antics of violence that the left has instigated will swing critical votes to Trump.

    The fuck you talking about, Willis?

    Seriously. what. the fuck.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    Yeah.^^^ And where did this happen?

    People looking for trouble found trouble. I don't want to defend the clown, but the left have got to get there shit together. 4 or 5 Midwest states may decide this election, and antics of violence that the left has instigated will swing critical votes to Trump.

    The fuck you talking about, Willis?

    Seriously. what. the fuck.
    If I go to a New England Patriots rally wearing a Manning jersey and shouting at all the Pat's fans that they are a bunch of cheaters (*they are), should I be surprised that Sully sucker punches me?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Jason P said:

    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    Yeah.^^^ And where did this happen?

    People looking for trouble found trouble. I don't want to defend the clown, but the left have got to get there shit together. 4 or 5 Midwest states may decide this election, and antics of violence that the left has instigated will swing critical votes to Trump.

    The fuck you talking about, Willis?

    Seriously. what. the fuck.
    If I go to a New England Patriots rally wearing a Manning jersey and shouting at all the Pat's fans that they are a bunch of cheaters (*they are), should I be surprised that Sully sucker punches me?
    You've yet to actually post (or I haven't seen it) any source of what you're claiming.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    There are many news outlets with reports of Bernie supporters inciting violence and death threats in Nevada ... And not even against The Clown! Just do a quick google search.

    The left is split. The GOP is going to rally around The Clown while the dems fight amounts each other for the next several months.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    And you believe it.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,104
    Jason P said:

    There are many news outlets with reports of Bernie supporters inciting violence and death threats in Nevada ... And not even against The Clown! Just do a quick google search.

    The left is split. The GOP is going to rally around The Clown while the dems fight amounts each other for the next several months.

    Wow, really, you think the left is split? The left will vote for Hillary, some happily, and some reluctantly. It's the GOP that's split, and they can't believe Trump will be the nom. They'll be a lot of no shows and votes for whatever 3rd party dude that can formulate a sentence.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited May 2016
    Jason P said:

    There are many news outlets with reports of Bernie supporters inciting violence and death threats in Nevada ... And not even against The Clown! Just do a quick google search.

    The left is split. The GOP is going to rally around The Clown while the dems fight amounts each other for the next several months.



    Clearly you haven't read any of my posts, certainly haven't watched the NV caucus video I posted.

    Rather than post an actual SOURCE of these lies, (because as I said before, actual delegates AT the caucus have cited those lies to be the typical media making shit up again), you will just say "look at Google"?

    This is the EXACT reason why the media makes it up: because gullible folks like you will believe everything they read on the Internet.
    Post edited by Free on
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    :face palm: :face palm: :face palm:
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    There are many news outlets with reports of Bernie supporters inciting violence and death threats in Nevada ... And not even against The Clown! Just do a quick google search.

    The left is split. The GOP is going to rally around The Clown while the dems fight amounts each other for the next several months.



    Clearly you haven't read any of my posts, certainly haven't watched the NV caucus video I posted.

    Rather than post an actual SOURCE of these lies, (because as I said before, actual delegates AT the caucus have cited those lies to be the typical media making shit up again), you will just say "look at Google"?

    This is the EXACT reason why the media makes it up: because gullible folks like you will believe everything they read on the Internet.
    From the Huffington Post, the chief cheerleader of the Sanders campaign. The supporters of Sanders from the NV incident have been vile and have resorted to Trump supporter tactics.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-nevada-dem-chair_us_573b4b8de4b0aee7b8e7dfa2
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,072

    brianlux said:

    brianlux said:

    Bernie is back in the bay area this week. I can't make the nearest rally due to work but I hear the turn outs have been and will continue to be huge. California has not given up on Bernie!

    You don't hear that often....

    "I can't make the nearest Bernie rally because I have to work".

    We're short handed, I'm just barely off the DL list myself, our Main St. where the store is located is torn up just when business should be picking up and the used book business is floundering. Yeah, like it or not, I have to work. Tough shit, huh?
    You should know by now, just giving you shit ;)
    Yeah, sorry man.

    Now where's I put that drink...
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  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    I read about the violence by Bernie supporters though I did not see any videos.

    I don't doubt that some supporters may have gotten violent. And if they did I don't know why that would suddenly speak for the whole campaign. Bernie's had thousands of people attending his rallies and shit and this is what? the second report of some of his supporters doing something less than okay, the first report of violence? If there needs to be a reaction to it, I'd expect a reaction more along the lines of "that's not bad, considering." Even if we're talking about a dozen people in NV compared to tens or hundreds of thousands over the US - come on.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,072
    Free said:

    Should we talk about what just went down in Nevada?

    Watch it all. What a disgrace this country is when it comes to fair elections.

    Ok, I'll just tell what happened. Flat out, last minute rule changes, DNC commissioner not listening to crowd booing her, decides the vote in direct opposition from the delegates, not allowing some delegates to count. All on personal video.

    Sanders supporters getting violent. Hysterical. But CNN reported they did. I believe personal videos from actual people who were there over Clinton News Network.

    See for yourself. This isn't a "my team, your team" sissy fight. This is our country and our right to vote. This is what it's come to.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tVa4G32M7Bc

    Good god!

    First off, Lange needs to pack it in.

    Secondly, the system is not broken, it's been arrogated. The only good these about these kinds of events is that they prove just that.
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited May 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    There are many news outlets with reports of Bernie supporters inciting violence and death threats in Nevada ... And not even against The Clown! Just do a quick google search.

    The left is split. The GOP is going to rally around The Clown while the dems fight amounts each other for the next several months.



    Clearly you haven't read any of my posts, certainly haven't watched the NV caucus video I posted.

    Rather than post an actual SOURCE of these lies, (because as I said before, actual delegates AT the caucus have cited those lies to be the typical media making shit up again), you will just say "look at Google"?

    This is the EXACT reason why the media makes it up: because gullible folks like you will believe everything they read on the Internet.
    From the Huffington Post, the chief cheerleader of the Sanders campaign. The supporters of Sanders from the NV incident have been vile and have resorted to Trump supporter tactics.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-nevada-dem-chair_us_573b4b8de4b0aee7b8e7dfa2
    Forget reading media! Watch the first hand video for what really happened!
    Post edited by Free on
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited May 2016
    ldent42 said:

    I read about the violence by Bernie supporters though I did not see any videos.

    I don't doubt that some supporters may have gotten violent. And if they did I don't know why that would suddenly speak for the whole campaign. Bernie's had thousands of people attending his rallies and shit and this is what? the second report of some of his supporters doing something less than okay, the first report of violence? If there needs to be a reaction to it, I'd expect a reaction more along the lines of "that's not bad, considering." Even if we're talking about a dozen people in NV compared to tens or hundreds of thousands over the US - come on.

    I posted a first hand account in the form of video of what happened. Thanks for being realistic.

    When will the public wake up and shut off the media when there's Proof that they're not only lying but doing it to solely enforce Sanders to quit the race? What more lies will they come up with? Photos don't lie. Sanders rallies bring out thousands of people. The media can only do so much to make it sound like he's doing poorly. When he's not, considering his support.

    This race is still neck to neck, and there will be a contested convention.
    Post edited by Free on
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    There are many news outlets with reports of Bernie supporters inciting violence and death threats in Nevada ... And not even against The Clown! Just do a quick google search.

    The left is split. The GOP is going to rally around The Clown while the dems fight amounts each other for the next several months.



    Clearly you haven't read any of my posts, certainly haven't watched the NV caucus video I posted.

    Rather than post an actual SOURCE of these lies, (because as I said before, actual delegates AT the caucus have cited those lies to be the typical media making shit up again), you will just say "look at Google"?

    This is the EXACT reason why the media makes it up: because gullible folks like you will believe everything they read on the Internet.
    Rolling Stones:

    rollingstone.com/politics/news/wtf-happened-at-the-nevada-democratic-state-convention-20160517?page=2

    LA Times:

    latimes.com/politics/la-na-sanders-convention-20160517-snap-story.html

    CBS News:

    cbsnews.com/news/security-concerns-end-nevada-democratic-convention/

    As I posted, just Google it.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited May 2016
    Jason P said:

    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    There are many news outlets with reports of Bernie supporters inciting violence and death threats in Nevada ... And not even against The Clown! Just do a quick google search.

    The left is split. The GOP is going to rally around The Clown while the dems fight amounts each other for the next several months.



    Clearly you haven't read any of my posts, certainly haven't watched the NV caucus video I posted.

    Rather than post an actual SOURCE of these lies, (because as I said before, actual delegates AT the caucus have cited those lies to be the typical media making shit up again), you will just say "look at Google"?

    This is the EXACT reason why the media makes it up: because gullible folks like you will believe everything they read on the Internet.
    Rolling Stones:

    rollingstone.com/politics/news/wtf-happened-at-the-nevada-democratic-state-convention-20160517?page=2

    LA Times:

    latimes.com/politics/la-na-sanders-convention-20160517-snap-story.html

    CBS News:

    cbsnews.com/news/security-concerns-end-nevada-democratic-convention/

    As I posted, just Google it.
    You just don't get it do you?

    A firsthand video versus the mainstream media. Those posting on social networks with VIDEO of the caucus are first-hand accounts. There is no agenda! It's of the actual event not a news story.
    Post edited by Free on
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited May 2016
    You people who Believe everything you read on the Internet, well, you're a news man's wet dream. Wake up!!
    Post edited by Free on
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138

    Jason P said:

    There are many news outlets with reports of Bernie supporters inciting violence and death threats in Nevada ... And not even against The Clown! Just do a quick google search.

    The left is split. The GOP is going to rally around The Clown while the dems fight amounts each other for the next several months.

    Wow, really, you think the left is split? The left will vote for Hillary, some happily, and some reluctantly. It's the GOP that's split, and they can't believe Trump will be the nom. They'll be a lot of no shows and votes for whatever 3rd party dude that can formulate a sentence.
    I just watched Free's video. Yup, I'd say there is a split. The GOP had an actual clown winning and I didn't see that behavior.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited May 2016
    Another 1st hand video - this from a Hillary Supporter, nevertheless highlighting the garbage that is going on.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154184401226241&id=726246240&_rdr
    Post edited by Free on
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,045
    YEAH...WAKE UP SHEEPLE.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Free said:



    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    There are many news outlets with reports of Bernie supporters inciting violence and death threats in Nevada ... And not even against The Clown! Just do a quick google search.

    The left is split. The GOP is going to rally around The Clown while the dems fight amounts each other for the next several months.



    Clearly you haven't read any of my posts, certainly haven't watched the NV caucus video I posted.

    Rather than post an actual SOURCE of these lies, (because as I said before, actual delegates AT the caucus have cited those lies to be the typical media making shit up again), you will just say "look at Google"?

    This is the EXACT reason why the media makes it up: because gullible folks like you will believe everything they read on the Internet.
    From the Huffington Post, the chief cheerleader of the Sanders campaign. The supporters of Sanders from the NV incident have been vile and have resorted to Trump supporter tactics.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-nevada-dem-chair_us_573b4b8de4b0aee7b8e7dfa2
    Forget reading media! Watch the first hand video for what really happened!
    That's a difficult argument for a few reasons
    1. You quote media sources all the time. You reference USUncut, Alt News and others. It seems as though you trust some news sources but not others, and you are warning us to only trust yours.
    2. Videos posted can't be edited for content? They can't be cut to adjust the context? They are just as easily manipulated as anything else.
    3. Can a video capture EVERYTHING that is happening, before, during, after? This is one angle, one view.
    4. Are you saying that the Huff Post and Sam Stein is lying to you about the voice mails and texts?

    If you want to make the argument that these were a small minority and not representative of the Bernie campaign, sure I can buy that argument. But it seems as though you are saying that threats, sexist statements, voice mails, texts never happened, that it's just the mainstream news trying to manipulate us for some unknown reason.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:



    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    There are many news outlets with reports of Bernie supporters inciting violence and death threats in Nevada ... And not even against The Clown! Just do a quick google search.

    The left is split. The GOP is going to rally around The Clown while the dems fight amounts each other for the next several months.



    Clearly you haven't read any of my posts, certainly haven't watched the NV caucus video I posted.

    Rather than post an actual SOURCE of these lies, (because as I said before, actual delegates AT the caucus have cited those lies to be the typical media making shit up again), you will just say "look at Google"?

    This is the EXACT reason why the media makes it up: because gullible folks like you will believe everything they read on the Internet.
    From the Huffington Post, the chief cheerleader of the Sanders campaign. The supporters of Sanders from the NV incident have been vile and have resorted to Trump supporter tactics.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-nevada-dem-chair_us_573b4b8de4b0aee7b8e7dfa2
    Forget reading media! Watch the first hand video for what really happened!
    That's a difficult argument for a few reasons
    1. You quote media sources all the time. You reference USUncut, Alt News and others. It seems as though you trust some news sources but not others, and you are warning us to only trust yours.
    2. Videos posted can't be edited for content? They can't be cut to adjust the context? They are just as easily manipulated as anything else.
    3. Can a video capture EVERYTHING that is happening, before, during, after? This is one angle, one view.
    4. Are you saying that the Huff Post and Sam Stein is lying to you about the voice mails and texts?

    If you want to make the argument that these were a small minority and not representative of the Bernie campaign, sure I can buy that argument. But it seems as though you are saying that threats, sexist statements, voice mails, texts never happened, that it's just the mainstream news trying to manipulate us for some unknown reason.
    You're just being difficult because you don't want to know what really happened. Because you're anti-Bernie. But this isn't just about Bernie it's about the entire election process.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    No, I'm not being difficult. You are focused on Nevada convention rules. I don't give a shit. All of this was over 2 extra delegates for the National Convention. Have they lost their fucking minds? Does anyone think that this will change the convention outcome or the primaries that are completed?
    By contrast, it made me focus on the behavior of the Sanders supporters, the anarchy, disruption to civil order, threatening of people, posting of address of Lange's grandchildren's fucking daycare. Are you fucking kidding me?
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited May 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    No, I'm not being difficult. You are focused on Nevada convention rules. I don't give a shit. All of this was over 2 extra delegates for the National Convention. Have they lost their fucking minds? Does anyone think that this will change the convention outcome or the primaries that are completed?
    By contrast, it made me focus on the behavior of the Sanders supporters, the anarchy, disruption to civil order, threatening of people, posting of address of Lange's grandchildren's fucking daycare. Are you fucking kidding me?

    Yes, yes they have lost their fucking minds.
    If someone cannot see how split the party is, then they are in total denial. I cannot count how many times I've heard Bernie supporters say "I will never vote for Hillary". My conclusion is that there are Bernie supporters and there are Democrats. They are not always one in the same as some assume. It is a little ironic how people were dissing "the opposition" about not having unity, boasting the love within the democratic and how well Clinton and Sanders were getting along and kissing each other's asses. Many Bernie supporters that I talk to hate Clinton as much as Trump...not saying that feeling is universal, but the sentiment definitely exists.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,045
    PJPOWER said:

    mrussel1 said:

    No, I'm not being difficult. You are focused on Nevada convention rules. I don't give a shit. All of this was over 2 extra delegates for the National Convention. Have they lost their fucking minds? Does anyone think that this will change the convention outcome or the primaries that are completed?
    By contrast, it made me focus on the behavior of the Sanders supporters, the anarchy, disruption to civil order, threatening of people, posting of address of Lange's grandchildren's fucking daycare. Are you fucking kidding me?

    Yes, yes they have lost their fucking minds.
    If someone cannot see how split the party is, then they are in total denial. I cannot count how many times I've heard Bernie supporters say "I will never vote for Hillary". My conclusion is that there are Bernie supporters and there are Democrats. They are not always one in the same as some assume. It is a little ironic how people were dissing "the opposition" about not having unity, boasting the love within the democratic and how well Clinton and Sanders were getting along and kissing each other's asses. Many Bernie supporters that I talk to hate Clinton as much as Trump...but saying that feeling is universal, but the sentiment definitely exists.
    This post is spot-on. Bravo.
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